This. So much this. There's territory most people cant pull off because they're not witty enough to articulate enough nuance.
Paid Fortnite streamer loses MS Mixer deal after tweeting “joke” about being a registered sex offender
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Maybe don't generalize when you are exposed to <1% of streamers, especially if you don't actually follow any?
What a dumbass
James gunn's thing was an old tweet, this was made in the past week and clearly violated MS's mixer policies
Are you talking about the stuff that James Gunn did nearly a decade ago, had previously apologised for, committed to growing and improving, delivered on the commitment to grow and improve, and then years later experienced a second backlash for?
I think this guy is right to get banned from Mixer etc right now, but if he in the future sees the error of his judgement and makes a commitment to improve, then spends years delivering on that improvement, and someone digs up this old tweet a decade later, I would say that any backlash in 2029 would be unwarranted.
Streamers.. were a mistake. Streaming is cool and all.. but mankind keeps looking for people to worship, power goes to their heads and then saying fucking dumb vile things becomes a norm. How else do assholes keep gaining followers but by saying and doing cringy, edgy, vile, despicable things?
This kind posts remind me how much disconnected ERA is from everyday life and reality of places like Mixer or Twitch.
Over generalizing every streamer into same tiny basket because all people seem to be exposed here for most part when it comes to streaming is these news.
People here should watch e.g. CohhCarnage, Dansgaming, Annemunition, Sacriel, Shroud... to see how by an large successful streamers behave and stream.
User Banned (Permanent): Dismissing concerns around pedophilia; prior severe ban for dismissing concerns on transphobia
Dude this is ResetEra, you cant joke here with a risk of a ban
Good, it was a terrible and tasteless joke, especially when children really are being preyed upon in Fortnite and other online games. This article on the subject was just printed a week or so ago:
www.nytimes.com
Video Games and Online Chats Are ‘Hunting Grounds’ for Sexual Predators
Criminals are making virtual connections with children through gaming and social media platforms. One popular site warns visitors, “Please be careful.”
www.nytimes.com
Oh you can fuck off. (Not the OP)
Social media and gaming has inadequate protection for children to begin with, having people shout "hey I'm a pedophile" is fucking obnoxious.
What a terrible comparison. Already reasoned why above. You really couldn't figure that out for yourself?
I think the interesting thing here with Mixer is that there is this reverse relationship compared to Twitch where being a Partner on Mixer means you are held to a higher standard. He probably thought he had made it and could pull stuff like that.
Unlike Twitch and YouTube, Mixer might not grant you edgelord immunity just on account of being one of the bigger names on the platform.
Either way, it’s always nice with a dystopian reminder that we’re one bad day on the Internet away from having our livelihoods taken away if we hitch our wagon entirely to Twitch or Mixer without diversifying our online presence.
Unlike Twitch and YouTube, Mixer might not grant you edgelord immunity just on account of being one of the bigger names on the platform.
Either way, it’s always nice with a dystopian reminder that we’re one bad day on the Internet away from having our livelihoods taken away if we hitch our wagon entirely to Twitch or Mixer without diversifying our online presence.
Pretty sure Mixer made a big deal about community standards since day one. Why anyone would risk an established career like this over a stupidly obvious bad idea is beyond me.
It's probably residual feelings of immunity left over from being on Twitch and getting away with whatever.
It's probably residual feelings of immunity left over from being on Twitch and getting away with whatever.
The good news is that the vast majority of streamers are okay folk.
The bads news is some of the most popular ones are horrible influences.
And this guy already apologized, deleted the tweet and will likely never be heard from again. Yet look at the first page of replies.
I bet this sounded good in your head. "Checkmate, libs!" Shame about your execution being so shitty.
Is it less worse to joke about being a pedophile 10 years ago
Like I said, he apologized, deleted the tweet and will never be heard from again but all people want to do is celebrate a bad joke getting this guy fired.
Try not to be offended by everything. What does this have to do with liberals? I voted for the Liberals in Canada but OK. You got me.
I'm not offended. I'm pointing and laughing at your inept attempt to shame people.
Mixer doing good work. Twitch would let it go if he was bringing in big bucks or platform engagement, then face a backlash and ban the next couple of small streamers who did even a fraction of what the 2 million-plus follower account did, in an attempt to look like they actually do enforce their own guidelines. Shoutouts to Fareeha.
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Oh got it, like how you’re trying to shame me as an alt-right, trump supporter? I think I get it.
If James Gunn made those jokes whilst working for Disney, of course he would be fired immediately. I'm pretty sure when he was making Troma films edgy jokes were more tolerated.
Freedom of speech is not the same as getting to work for corporations like Microsoft and Epic, making them look bad, and never being able to suffer any professional consequences.
If people had dug up a joke he had made a decade ago, which he had long ago apologised for and never repeated that type of humour, and then he got banned from Mixer today, I would be totally on his side.
Look I’m not talking about company policy. I’m talking about the reaction to similar types of jokes and one being “good fuck this guy” and another being “this guy should be given the benefit of the doubt”
Ok so you're arguing nuance doesn't exist?
Who do you think the audience of James Gunn's 2009 twitter followers was?
Who do you think the audience of "People watching Fortnite on Mixer" is?
It's a completely false equivalence and you're either being dumb or disingenuous if you don't see that.
Well, bye.
You said that like he's the first to loose thousands on Twitter. Some have lost much more, and more are sure to follow because people are generally stupid.
He probably thought he was going to increase his following with crap like that, which isn’t hard to imagine is successful, sadly. Only companies like Mixer taking a stand can put a stop to that. It would probably have been career-advancing otherwise. The internet blows, man.
Nobody should ever feel bad about anyone dumb enough to think this was a good idea and find themselves unemployed as a consequence.
Only problem with it is that his audience is mostly kids watch him. If his audience was adults, I’d have no problem with the joke. Ya’ll who say “you can never make jokes about such topic” are completely, inherently wrong though. Look to Anthony Jesselnik or even some of Bo Burnham’s jokes.
That and it's a corporation with an obvious vested interest in not endorsing this kind of humour that is paying his salary.
How can you not get the difference:
1. Person made joke many years ago. Has since grown, distanced themselves from that mindset, and proven to be better. Loses work despite the above.
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2. Person made joke while employed by current company. Loses partnership.
Huge difference.
Fair enough. Corporations will use any reason to drop your ass unless you’re bringing in the BIG BUCKAROOS. In that case, they’ll try to get you a prison livestream. “What’s up, gamers! Comin’ at you from the LA Precinct. Let’s get those Epic Vic-Royals!”
1. Mixer community guidelines are clear and were a pretty big focus when MS made their push a while back.
2. Accountability for gross shit, that sites like Twitch have rarely had.
The guy knew where he was. He can always go back to Twitch.
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1) it’s making light of a serious problem in the world. People grooming kids online
2) it puts Xbox and Fortnite as brands into disrepute. By extension that goes to Nintendo and Sony as other places where your kids aren’t safe from Fortnite players.
3) if I said this on Twitter as a joke my employer would fire me instantly
And 3 is the real point here.
Places like Twitch made some people feel immune to accountability. The world caught up with them.