In addition to it being a download code, PUBG is not overpriced digitally like full price games are.
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PAL Charts - Week 1, 2018
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Again how do you go from one game selling over 50% digitally on console that is online only to 75-80% digital share in 3 months. And no i don't believe the prices and can cause a swing like that. What your advocating is unprecedented.
Discounts. If you take a look at the Individual Formats (Value) chart, Forza 7 is actually down one spot from last week.
Seems like a game that was very front-loaded. Showed up for a while in the quiet summer period due to excellent WoM but once the heavy-hitters have shown up it hasn't been able to compete.
That complete edition does seem to be a disappointing endeavour indeed.
I'm not quite sure if the German BIU sales awards for November have been posted yet, so here they are:
500k+:
CoD: WW2 (PS4)
200k+:
Gran Turismo Sport
AC Origins (PS4)
Super Mario Odyssee
100k+:
CoD: WW2 (X1)
F1 2017 (PS4)
Middle Earth: Shadow of War (PS4)
NfS: Payback (PS4)
Splatoon 2
SW: Battlefront 2 (PS4)
https://www.biu-online.de/marktdaten/biu-sales-awards-november-2017/
500k+:
CoD: WW2 (PS4)
200k+:
Gran Turismo Sport
AC Origins (PS4)
Super Mario Odyssee
100k+:
CoD: WW2 (X1)
F1 2017 (PS4)
Middle Earth: Shadow of War (PS4)
NfS: Payback (PS4)
Splatoon 2
SW: Battlefront 2 (PS4)
https://www.biu-online.de/marktdaten/biu-sales-awards-november-2017/
It is usual for Sony 1st party titles to be pretty frontloaded I think. People that are buying PS4 now don't buy it for Horizon or Uncharted but for FIFA/CoD/GTA.
Games that only have a download code in the box have less value as a physical disc, since they don't have any trade-in value and sten't as nice in a collection. A download code in a box is not a "proper" physical edition in those hat sense, and as such it will skew further towards digital.
Why do you think Destiny is the game with the highest digital share in the first place?
The increasing digital sales over time are just one factor. You're way to focused on "in 3 months". Different games have different digital ratios for various reasons. This is nothing new.
PUBG and Destiny are totally different games in that regard. A game like Rocket League is more comparable to PUBG.
Destiny is an advertised AAA full price game (yes online only, too) with prominent shelf space.
PUBG is a short notice digital release for half the price, that also happend to get a physical version day and date.
I think it's around the end of January/begin february that Philippe Lavoué often cites FR numbers in an interview, i hope he'll does the same this year.
Horizon did great in the UK, plus digital probably sold around 400/450K which is great.
WW should be around 6M already so it'll be fine, next one will be even bigger.
As for top 5, absolute Playstation domination these days even in the UK, France seems to be much more interesting with Nintendo doing amazing there alongside Sony, all the rest of Europe is Sony business as usual.
WW should be around 6M already so it'll be fine, next one will be even bigger.
As for top 5, absolute Playstation domination these days even in the UK, France seems to be much more interesting with Nintendo doing amazing there alongside Sony, all the rest of Europe is Sony business as usual.
Horizon wasn't front loaded. It had great legs.
Something isn't "front loaded" because it doesn't have Nintendo/CoD/FIFA like legs.
Something isn't "front loaded" because it doesn't have Nintendo/CoD/FIFA like legs.
Horizon actually had good legs in the UK. Not sure what's up with the new edition.
What's your explanation for the awful performance of the complete edition then? I'd expect much better than a complete no-show if it did have great long term sales potential. It's still way under a year since its release after all.
EDIT: a good point of comparison I can see is Gears of War Ultimate Edition making it into the individual top 40. That's significantly older and exclusive to the weaker platform yet it's there.
You could say the same for rocket league or fortnite . It's a primarily digital game that happens to have a retail release that's not even advertised(and PUbG is a boxed code). There's no reason to pick up the retail version as it has no trade value and is disposable
The complete edition is just the base game plus DLC. I don't think it not charting warrants an explanation, especially since it released much later after the game had dropped out of the charts and because you can buy the base game + dlc for the same price or cheaper in some places.
And even more than that, the complete edition charting or not has nothing to do with the initial run legs, which were great.
I'm mention the time period because adoptipn of digital has been gradually, I believe mod on gaf Noralik stated it grew 5% a year roughly. So there's a jump from 5% to 25%. If retail box edition was not released day and date I would have agreed with your assertion.
Of course it had good legs. But we were talking about legs that could last 10months. In that regard Horizon is pretty front loaded. Complete editions are meant for newcommers so if the legs died weeks before, it won't help.
Rocket League wasn't available physical date and i don't believe fornite has been released at retail. Correct me if i'm wrong. Thx in advance.
Hopefully John Harker will give us the split in NPD thread, should be able to extrapolate the result.
I guess I'm just not seeing what you're seeing. I've gone through Bruno's holiday charts all the way back to week 42 and Horizon is completely absent in each and every one I'm 99.9% certain. If they could clarify when it last made an appearance it'd be appreciated, I just don't see the terrible complete edition performance along with how long the base game has not been selling well recently (particularly if people are opting for the cheaper base game + DLC as you inferred) as things to just brush aside like you do and they are definitely worth discussing, as Bruno themselves did by asking the question. It seems like a game very few people in the mainstream have cared about for a long time- ergo front-loaded.
EDIT: the comment just above too, is all good points.
Okay, so this is basically about terminology. Horizon had great legs. It wasn't an evergreen title or bundled software.
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That is not an indicator of poor legs. What?
Horizon charted and pulled numbers for several weeks after launch, back in February.
You aren't asking for me to prove that it has great legs, your asking me to prove that it essentially perform like a bundled or evergreen title.
No, a game does not need to perform like a Mario/Zelda/FIFA/Cod/GTA to have great legs. That's absolutely ridiculous.
You don't have to look necessarily at LTD numbers because the game was digital only for the first year. Just weekly / monthly sales of a game like Rocket League digital and at retail.
Fortnite had a retail release day one, but is not widely available anymore:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071JQTBFL/?tag=e100-21
Yeah i know, but that is just the general digital adoption trend.
That does not contradict, that some games have higher digital sales and other lower. And those factors stay the same within the overall growing digital adoption rate.
And the point is, that a game like Destiny is not the top of the digital ratio.
It's presumably just at the top for AAA full price "retail games".
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I'm pretty sure sell.fr just released 3 weeks in a row of French charts. Last week we were still at Week 49. So for the holidays:
Week 50:
Week 51:
Week 52:
COD is a beast, and the Switch seems healthy.
Week 50:
Week 51:
Week 52:
COD is a beast, and the Switch seems healthy.
Add PC numbers that are about 500k for UK (according to steamspy) and console digital and I would guess GTA V is past 8 million in UK. For reference best selling game of all time in Japan is Pokemon Red/Blue/Green with 7.9 million and that is with Japan having double the population of UK. Crazy.
Completely sold out :( the game is near impossible to find for weeks now.
Edit : it will be getting restocks next week iirc.
Interesting how the discount works for GTS and Forza 7.
GTS: High spot in both units and revenue chart.
Forza 7: High spot in units but low spot in revenue.
That means either 1) F7 discounts is way bigger than GTS discounts or 2) GTS units numbers were big enough to maintain a high spot on revenue chart or 3) a combination of 1 and 2..
GTS: High spot in both units and revenue chart.
Forza 7: High spot in units but low spot in revenue.
That means either 1) F7 discounts is way bigger than GTS discounts or 2) GTS units numbers were big enough to maintain a high spot on revenue chart or 3) a combination of 1 and 2..
I guess it would be of great help if we knew how bundles are counted into the value charts.
When did DLC release in relation to the complete edition? If it was close then it may just be most people interested already had the game plus DLC.
There's just one DLC right? That doesn't make for a very compelling complete edition.
Anecdotally I never even knew there was a complete edition! What push did it get?
Amazon UK is currently out of stock of
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Super Mario Odyssey
Mario + Rabbids
1 2 Switch
So not just France
GTS placed #2 with a discount promotion in the highly competitive black friday week.
F7 placed #10 (behind GTS in value chart) with a discount promotion in the not very competitive week 1.
It's not difficult to see which promotion had the highest consumer reaction.
This is a shady plan to force people to register for an online Nintendo ID so that they can promote their new paid online service.
I see right through them.
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