PAL Charts - Week 43, 2017

Deleted member 11262 · Oct 30, 2017

That's bad for Wolfenstein II...
Constantly underwhelming sales for Bethesda this year doesn't exactly emits any hope for future SP projects and that's fucking sad.

ArkhamFantasy · Oct 30, 2017

Joeyro said:
The obsession of dumping everything in the holiday season strikes again , The New Order had a comfortable release date at may with much more room to breathe.

Evil Within 2 and Prey weren't released in a crowded schedule and they under performed as well. The market is changing faster than we anticipated. This is a very bad sign for single player games that aren't huge open worlds.

v_iHuGi · Oct 30, 2017

Dadasch said:
That's bad for Wolfenstein II...
Constantly underwhelming sales for Bethesda this year doesn't exactly emits any hope for future SP projects and that's fucking sad.

I've been doing my part, will buy Evil Within 2 aswell.

Deleted member 62 · Oct 30, 2017

marc^o^ said:
300k for Switch in UK: how does it compare to PS4 and XBox One?

PS4: 250k during its launch week
Xbox One: 150k during its launch week

PS4: 1m after 9 months
Xbox One: 1m after 12 months

Switch hasn't had a holiday season yet, so the numbers aren't quite comparable.

HomespunFur · Oct 30, 2017

v_iHuGi said:
Playstation very strong in the UK, for some reason I associate UK with Xbox maybe because last gen but looks like it's Playstation country now? Not sure if just a random week through.

Last gen was good for xbox, most xbox multiplat games sold better and it ended selling more than the Wii (although that took a long time for 360 to catch up) but ms totally botched the launch and they are doing good deals now but it's a little too late.
They could turn it around next gen but I think PS4 is going to be the most popular system for now.

Bruno MB · Oct 30, 2017

Wii Fit Plus sold 294,000 in its first 4 weeks.

Here the weekly percentage changes, doing some maths we have 80,000 units sold in its first week.

Week 1 - NEW
Week 2 - (+3%)
Week 3 - (-24%)
Week 4 - ? / 294,000 (+10%)

294,000 x (1 / (1 + 1.03 + (1.03 x 0.76) + (1.03 x 0.76 x 1.10))) = 80,024

1. Wii Fit - 215,000
2. Mario Kart Wii - 186,000
3. Pokémon Sun -
4. Pokémon Moon -
5. Wii Fit Plus - 80,000
6. Super Smash Bros. Wii - 79,000

v_iHuGi · Oct 30, 2017

HomespunFur said:
Last gen was good for xbox, most xbox multiplat games sold better and it ended selling more than the Wii (although that took a long time for 360 to catch up) but ms totally botched the launch and they are doing good deals now but it's a little too late.
They could turn it around next gen but I think PS4 is going to be the most popular system for now.

Friends having Ps4 make other friends buy their systems, so yeah Ps4 is in a very strong position.

Frankfurter · Oct 30, 2017

marc^o^ said:
300k for Switch in UK: how does it compare to PS4 and XBox One, in terms of LTD?

Where is that number from out of curiosity? Edit: NVM, I'm blind.

(Good to see all these posters from GAF being active here btw.)

JJShadow · Oct 30, 2017

Good performance for SMO, so-so for AC origins and bad for Wolfenstein II. It's a real shame about Wolf tho, Bethesda is one of the few companies who still deliver amazing SP experiences but I'm afraid they will change their approach in the future after so many flops

I'm really happy about GT Sport as well, really good hold all things considered

Die Squirrel Die said:
It's like they devised their whole strategy around what worked for Fallout4 and Doom without realising that it worked there because it's Fallout4 and Doom.

Was GTS a Tuesday or Friday release?

Primethius said:
Think it was Friday.

It was a Wednesday release

CICUU · Oct 30, 2017

I expected better sales for Mario.

Bruno MB · Oct 30, 2017

CICUU said:
I expected better sales for Mario.

Best debut ever for a Super Mario title is not good enough for you?

HomespunFur · Oct 30, 2017

v_iHuGi said:
Friends having Ps4 make other friends buy their systems, so yeah Ps4 is in a very strong position.

Totally.
And its not like Sony gave not been competitive with their price, and they have a lot of matketing deals for games and so on.
It seems both are doing well though.

CICUU · Oct 30, 2017

Bruno MB said:
Best debut ever for a Super Mario title is not good enough for you?

That's a bit misleading. How good were the sales of previous Super Mario games?

Deleted member 4976 · Oct 30, 2017

JJShadow said:
Good performance for SMO, so-so for AC origins and bad for Wolfenstein II. It's a real shame about Wolf tho, Bethesda is one of the few companies who still deliver amazing SP experiences but I'm afraid they will change their approach in the future after so many flops

I'm really happy about GT Sport as well, really good hold all things considered

It was a Wednesday release

Ah, thanks for the correction.

zomgbbqftw · Oct 30, 2017

Shiggy said:
PS4: 250k during its launch week
Xbox One: 150k during its launch week

PS4: 1m after 9 months
Xbox One: 1m after 12 months

Switch hasn't had a holiday season yet, so the numbers aren't quite comparable.

Also, I think Switch has had much less supply than PS4/XB1 in the UK.

Triggerhappytel · Oct 30, 2017

Kill3r7 said:
For the second year in a row, Ubi's biggest selling title came out in the Spring.

Is that Wildlands?

wapplew said:
Waiting for X.

Sure. There's going to be a lot of games (Forza 7, Shadow of War, ACO) getting a significant bump in a few weeks then? Or, more likely, they might sell a few thousand extra as people pick the games up alongside their new console. But I doubt it will make a particularly noticeable impact on the charts.

v_iHuGi said:
Playstation very strong in the UK, for some reason I associate UK with Xbox maybe because last gen but looks like it's Playstation country now? Not sure if just a random week through.

I think the PS4:Xbone split was about 1.5:1 earlier in the gen (which stacks with a 60/40 breakdown). However, I'm not sure if that's still the case or Sony has increased their market share since then.

NSESN said:
That's actually bad for SMO imo, not being able to break 100k is a sad.

Nintendo have never been particularly strong in this country, with the possible exception of the Wii.

Zushin said:
If the finale of the trilogy is greenlit for Wolfenstein I reckon they should go back to the May release date.

I agree. Wolfenstein as a brand may be fairly well-known, but it's not strong enough to compete with the really big pre-Christmas releases from other publishers. Beth should stop forcing their non-BGS games into that slot.

Soap · Oct 30, 2017

Bruno MB said:
Best debut ever for a Super Mario title is not good enough for you?

I think people tend to forget Mario games also have insane legs, so Oddysey is bound to sell better than a lot of other Nintendo games.

tzare · Oct 30, 2017

Did it? i thought GT did 90k.. but it seems it did 74k, and Mario?? 77k?

edit. how do i quote on resetera?

GeeTeeCee · Oct 30, 2017

I'm curious as to how Call of Duty is going to do next week. The hype seems kind of subdued this year, but as far as I can tell it still seems to be doing okay on the pre-order charts I've seen, and it's coming after a busy week for consumers.

xrnzaaas · Oct 30, 2017

black070 said:
That and the fact that a lot of people don't vote.. hell, I've been all digital this gen and I haven't done so even once.

For me it's annoying that you can't vote on the game on PSN if you have a retail copy. It's like they're afraid people will spam with votes on various accounts. They could easily prevent that with IP checks.

Yaqza · Oct 30, 2017

Joeyro said:
The obsession of dumping everything in the holiday season strikes again , The New Order had a comfortable release date at may with much more room to breathe.

And it was published not long after new consoles debuted which helped a lot. People were thirsty for meaty new-gen titles and, if I remember correctly, most of the sales were on PS4 and XO. All games sell pretty well during next-gen infancy because buyers are willing to spend more on their new toys.

v_iHuGi · Oct 30, 2017

Anyone knows how much Ps4 has sold by now? 5M seems likely.

John Bender · Oct 30, 2017

silva1991 said:
Nice to see you again John Bender ;)

Thanks bro =) I't nice to be back. *brofist*

Triggerhappytel · Oct 30, 2017

tzare said:
Did it? i thought GT did 90k.. but it seems it did 74k, and Mario?? 77k?

edit. how do i quote on resetera?

Click on the '+Quote' box to the right of the post, then in the box at the bottom of the page you have to click to add the quoted messages in the bottom left.

John Bender said:
Thanks bro =) I't nice to be back. *brofist*

Yeah, good to see you again pal. Were you banned from Gaf? I did follow you on Twitter but I don't think you're very active on there, are you?

Allseeingeye · Oct 30, 2017

Any word on GT sport's week 2 drop? Really curious how its legs will be.

tzare · Oct 30, 2017

Triggerhappytel said:
Click on the '+Quote' box to the right of the post, then in the box at the bottom of the page you have to click to add the quoted messages in the bottom left.

ohh thanks!!!!

Puroresu_kid · Oct 30, 2017

77k SMO on a platform which has sold 300k isn't good?

John Bender · Oct 30, 2017

Triggerhappytel said:
Click on the '+Quote' box to the right of the post, then in the box at the bottom of the page you have to click to add the quoted messages in the bottom left.
Yeah, good to see you again pal. Were you banned from Gaf? I did follow you on Twitter but I don't think you're very active on there, are you?

Yup, banned because I was talking about the Vita in a 3DS thread. I didn't even start the conversation. I replied to a post and...... welp. Those Gaf times are over. A new Era is upon us =)
Nice to see the band back together here.

fake edit.
I'm not on Twitter very often. It's time to change that.

Puroresu_kid said:
77k SMO on a platform which has sold 300k isn't good?

Is 77k for Super Mario Odyssey confirmed?

Zedark · Oct 30, 2017

Allseeingeye said:
Any word on GT sport's week 2 drop? Really curious how its legs will be.

gamesindustry.biz said:
The new launches has caused FIFA 18 to slip to No.3 (sales down 11% week-on-week), while last week's No.1 Gran Turismo Sport drops to No.5 with a 61% decrease in sales week-on-week.

Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...d-assassins-creed-origins-top-uk-boxed-charts

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FIFA 18 has a small 11% drop, which probably explains why Switch is at the same percentage of total FIFA 18 sales: Switch sku was close to flat for the last few weeks, and now all versions are almost flat.

v_iHuGi · Oct 30, 2017

Allseeingeye said:
Any word on GT sport's week 2 drop? Really curious how its legs will be.

It sold 29K this week, not extrapolated for 100%.

Lifetime sits at 103.000 in the UK and first week on Japan was 150.000.

Kill3r7 · Oct 30, 2017

Triggerhappytel said:
Is that Wildlands?.

Correct. Wildlands this year and The Division last year.

Allseeingeye · Oct 30, 2017

Zedark said:
[QUOTEgamesindustry.biz]The new launches has caused FIFA 18 to slip to No.3 (sales down 11% week-on-week), while last week's No.1 Gran Turismo Sport drops to No.5 with a 61% decrease in sales week-on-week.

Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...d-assassins-creed-origins-top-uk-boxed-charts

.[/QUOTE]

thats really good, Destiny 2 for instance was 78%.

Triggerhappytel · Oct 30, 2017

Kill3r7 said:
Correct. Wildlands this year and The Division last year.

Crazy that Wildlands outsold Assassin's Creed. The launch window has got to be, like, 25% of the contributing factor there!

tzare · Oct 30, 2017

Puroresu_kid said:
77k SMO on a platform which has sold 300k isn't good?

it is really good, but considering it is probably THE GAME that almost every switch owner may want to play, and since Zelda had almost 1:1 ratio if not mistaken when launched. It will have legs though, long legs.

Soony Xbone Uhh · Oct 30, 2017

KingSnake said:
Well done for SMO. I was expecting a bit more for AC:O, equalling Syndicate is not really the kind of reboot the series needed, but maybe it will be better in other regions. Unfortunately Wolfenstein II, as expected, didn't set the world on fire.

I bet they will.
Syndicate released 2 years ago with much lower digital share.

Games being flat or down only low double digits are doing fine.
Being down 50% or even 70% at retail over the predecessor are the concerning titels

OG_Thrills · Oct 30, 2017

Looks like Polyphony made a killing in France.

KingSnake · Oct 30, 2017

Soony Xbone Uhh said:
I bet they will.
Syndicate released 2 years ago with much lower digital share.

Games being flat or down only low double digits are doing fine.
Being down 50% or even 70% at retail over the predecessor are the concerning titels

Syndicate was a big drop in terms of sales compared to other AC entries. Practically AC:O didn't bring back old AC players, just got more money on more or less the same players as Syndicate. I don't think that the digital share is that big for AC.

freeradical · Oct 30, 2017

Wonder if Wolf2 gets a bit of a bump in week 45?

v_iHuGi · Oct 30, 2017

OG_Thrills said:
Looks like Polyphony made a killing in France.

Gran Turismo in Europe is quite a juggernaut, Gran Turismo 7 will be massive.

Allseeingeye · Oct 30, 2017

v_iHuGi said:
Gran Turismo in Europe is quite a juggernaut, Gran Turismo 7 will be massive.

People thinking sport would not do well lol...it's going to have great legs as long as they keep updating it with content.

silva1991 · Oct 30, 2017

wapplew said:
Waiting for X.

I know my sister is.

bombshell · Oct 30, 2017

Very good second week legs for GT Sport (-61%)

Doctor_Thomas · Oct 30, 2017

GT Sport will sell well for the rest of the PS4's life. It'll get content updates. Remember Driveclub? Yeah. GT Sport will do the same. They're built as platforms.

Benji · Oct 30, 2017

NHale said:
Digital doesn't have the same impact on the UK as other territories. You can get the same game at retail for -25% than the digital price compared to other regions were prices are the same.

This is less true than commenters think it is. It's one of those things everyone just posts and repeats but isn't actually true. Digital in UK is less than US but not hugely so. It's also a bigger % than people think.

In regards to sales solid start for Origins, fantastic debut for Odyssey, and not a great result for Wolf 2

Psycho_Mantis · Oct 30, 2017

Nice hold for GTS

NHale said:
If you want to have a slight idea of digital sales for games look at the number of ratings the game got on the digital store (only those who buy digital can rate them). Of course not a definitive indicator but it gives you an idea.

Since GT Sport and AC: Origins both released around the same timeframe and with similar retail sales, here is the comparison on the PSN store:

GT Sport - 1855
AC: Origins - 154
Wolfenstein II - 36

Singleplayer games simply don't do well digitally on the UK because of the pricing difference between retail and digital (~25%). It's a different story if it's a multiplayer/persistent game that has hooks to keep you playing for years.

GT Sport might have an unusually high digital rate as the demo included a pre-order digital option.

OG_Thrills said:
Looks like Polyphony made a killing in France.

Wait till you see Germany. Besides EU, I'm seeing a lot of players from Brazil and Middle East. The great thing about GT is its worldwide appeal.

Acquiescence · Oct 30, 2017

OG_Thrills said:
Looks like Polyphony made a killing in France.

GT's gonna do that thing again where it sells a shit load of copies without ~~GAF~~ Era realising until years later isn't it.

bombshell · Oct 30, 2017

Triggerhappytel said:
Click on the '+Quote' box to the right of the post, then in the box at the bottom of the page you have to click to add the quoted messages in the bottom left.

That is if you want to quote multiple posts. If you just want to quote a single post it's much easier to click on 'Reply' on that post.

Allseeingeye · Oct 30, 2017

Acquiescence said:
GT's gonna do that thing again where it sells a shit load of copies without ~~GAF~~ Era realising until years later isn't it.

I learned a long time ago...game forums are one of the worst places for any kind of sales talk. Especially for a game like GT, it's going to do very, very well.

Deleted member 4976 · Oct 30, 2017

GT: Sport can have great legs. Doesn't change that its opening wasn't that impressive by GT standards.

Allseeingeye · Oct 30, 2017

Primethius said:
GT: Sport can have great legs. Doesn't change that its opening wasn't that impressive by GT standards.

No one is saying it did..not sure the relevance. Considering the change of direction, always online and low content...it did well imo, and will continue to do so. GAAS games are about longevity.

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