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PAL Charts - Week 45, 2017
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Idon't have a source, but I read somewhere that it is better than Nintendo past systems but still way worse than the other 2.
Q2 financials
- In 1H'17 Nintendo earned 22.8 billion yen ($205.29 million) from digital download sales, up 55% year-over-year, making its best-ever six-month period for digital download sales
- Q2 saw the biggest jump for this period
I suspect a higher digital ratio for the games that need a download. For example, Doom was behind Sonic forces in retail but above in the e-shop.
Amazon chart positions are not a good metric to use for software, but it is a good indicator for what the top-selling console of the month may be.
They're not good to measure software on an hour by hour basis, but I think you'll be hard pressed to find a big disparity between Amazon's top 100 of the year and the actual top 100 (split out across consoles obviously).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017/videogames
The best-selling games in the US aren't even on Amazon's top-20 for 2017. That should tell you something. : p
If Nintendo is going to foot the bill for publishing I think better support will be there.
Also, according to Amazon UK WipEout outsold Nioh, Tekken 7 and Kingdom Hearts HD :) WhIch is also hard to believe
Pokemon is as popular as ever here and Nintendo's big stuff (Mario and Zelda have done really well). It's very overblown how badly Nintendo do here, do they do better elsewhere? Definitely, but they do fine here too (outside of the Wii U and Gamecube) .
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Unfortunately, we don't have numbers which specify software, hardware and accessory revenue for each Nintendo platform. We only have the sum of these, which makes estimations difficult. However, we have those numbers for Europe, but only for up to March 2016. Based on those we could try to make some rough estimations.
For Europe in 2016, software made up about 40% of all 3DS revenues and 35% of all Wii U revenues. Those percentages might differ in other regions, but we lack data for that. So let's assume they are similar worldwide. Given the retail price of the Switch, we could also assume that 35% of all Switch revenues come from software.
Revenues from 3DS and Switch for April-September were 324,872m yen, using the percentages above, software revenues in that period would be estimated as 117,260m yen. Digital revenues are reported as 22,800m, so the share of digital sales would be about 19% across Switch and 3DS.
But again, that's just a very rough estimation as we don't have any more data. And it's also just for Nintendo's own software, the split might be different for other publishers.
They're there, but the story Amazon's top 20 is telling is that digital sales are way the hell up, especially on PS4.
I think people should make predictions before sales come out. :)
Without context many numbers can be spun as low, ok, good, etc. Because reasons.
In media create threads, this helps ground the conversation. Factors such as other game sales, user base, release schedule, factor into predictions and therefore expectations.
Without context many numbers can be spun as low, ok, good, etc. Because reasons.
In media create threads, this helps ground the conversation. Factors such as other game sales, user base, release schedule, factor into predictions and therefore expectations.
Hi Zhuge, what is your opinion on the subject "what is Amazon rankings good for"
In before "Absolutely nothing, good god y'all".
It crossed my mind but PR people are even more hated than bankers, so i rather not change my profession.
What else should be the most reasonable explanation for the increase in marketshare for the Xbox One Version this week over last week across the board, if not people buying new packaged software alongside new hardware?
Of couse this all depends on an individuals definition of sales bump, but for me that is also a noticeable lower decline compared to the competition and market driven by an explicit event.
Here is my PR statement; "mostly all of Xbox One first and thrid party titles saw a sales bump thanks to the launch of the highly anticipated and nearly sold out Xbox One X and outperformed all competing platforms in marketshare gains this week. Forza Motorsport 7, our visual showcase and the most critically acclaimed racing game this year, had an even stronger showing with sales increase more than 50% over last week.
We look forward to a great holiday season and want to thank all of you for your continued support and feedback so we can make Xbox great again.
Yes i should get a Job in PR :D
2016 Numbers:
Week 44
Ps4: 25k
Xb1: 29k
Week 45
all consoles: 145.5k
Ps4 Pro: 50k
Ps4: 27k
Xb1: 54k
other: 15.5k
2017 Numbers:
Week 45
all home consoles: 178k
Xb1 X: 80k
Xb1 S: 41k
more at the link:
http://www.mcvuk.com/articles/consoles/xbox-one-x-outsells-ps4-pro-in-first-week
source for 2016 data:
http://www.mcvuk.com/articles/publishing/ps4-console-sales-up-204-following-pro-launch
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wow thats a massive control of MS of UK market for last week. Sony probably need to do something soon. even XB1S has quite strong numbers.
I would really like to know why the Xbox One S was so strong in the launch week of Xbox One X.
It sold not much less than Switch, Ps4 and Ps4 Pro combined.
What is also very fascinating:
The Xbox One X this year sold about 2 times the regular Xbox One.
The Ps4 Pro last year sold about 2 times the regular Ps4.
Switch is likely heavily supply constrained after the Mario launch.
Ps4 had a the new Call of Duty: WW2 bundles released the week before.
Xbox One S probably got a bump because of the Xbox One X launch and had deals?
This is how i would try to explain the Xbox One S numbers.
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A big shipment was made available for the Mario launch and 2 weeks after that, the stock of that shipment is drying out.
Nintendo needs times to replenish stock and the next big shipments will probably come in later. This or next week and in time for black Friday.
It's not like retailer get new huge shipments every week. Sometimes you have just a steady low stock incoming, and sometimes you get way bigger ones for huge sales events.
The Xbox One X launch week is exactly 2 weeks after the Mario Odysse launch and 2 weeks before Black Friday.
So it could be just the perfect unfortunate timing with the lowest amount of Switch stock in November.
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It honestly doesn't look like it's out of stock at any major retailer, at least online. I don't really see how you can say it's supply constrained at this point.
In that case the numbers are even more weird and do not make much sense for me.
57k for Switch + Ps4 family combined during the second week of November (first full week of CoD: WW2 and 2nd full week of Mario Odysse)
As i said. I don't know and really would like to know...
The big surprise for me is seeing Forza Horizon 3 charting so high a year later.
It's even crazier when you think it's also an exclusive to a console with less install base then the competition.
An offshoot racing game is keeping up with 2 juggernaut racing games, GTS and F7.
I mean wow. What is keeping this game so high? It's very interesting to see.
It's even crazier when you think it's also an exclusive to a console with less install base then the competition.
An offshoot racing game is keeping up with 2 juggernaut racing games, GTS and F7.
I mean wow. What is keeping this game so high? It's very interesting to see.
Aren't they already with Doom? Eating some of the cart cost would be a great start though.
I'm convinced that Noobie is just baiting you guys XD
Good to know. Do you have the split for Switch and Ps4 family sales for the week?
Or is the Switch just not selling as much as we might think during this time in the UK?
A lot of discussion about the xbox brand around the industry, a lot of it positive, perhaps that trickled out to the general public.
So the name "xbox" entered the mind generating positive feelings and subconsciously had an impact on their console buying .
I know I'm reaching lol
Ok those XB1S numbers looks very strong, and i'm honestly super surprised. In general i'm very impressed about XB1 overall, >120K in a week is huge, i never thought it would sell that much outside of Black Friday and launch.
What kind of deals got XB1S that week?
What kind of deals got XB1S that week?
I'd like to know this as well.
Also wondering how much the bundles factored into FH3 charting so high.
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Thanks a lot for the graphs !
I think it is still too prematurate to make projections based on the data. There are 2 reasons for that :
- The Holiday season is not there yet and we don't know how the Switch will perform during this time of the year.
- They said it, the actual numbers have been impacted by the supply constrainst so there are not fully representative of the demand.
Thanks.
Source of these graphs?
I think the Switch projection is a big conservative. The first test will be Christmas 2017.
Source of these graphs?
I think the Switch projection is a big conservative. The first test will be Christmas 2017.
That's the via though. I don't see the source of the data (unless these are data collected by ZhugeEX himself).
Doom has ranked high on the eshop best sellers this whole week alone, its already doing atleast decent
Has to be Game PLC, right?
Don't know any other retailer that is specialized in the UK + Spain market.
And something like the week 23 dip is exactly what i meant when talking about lower Switch numbers in week 45. My wording with heavily supply constrained wasn't good tho, so apologies for that.
Don't know any other retailer that is specialized in the UK + Spain market.
And something like the week 23 dip is exactly what i meant when talking about lower Switch numbers in week 45. My wording with heavily supply constrained wasn't good tho, so apologies for that.
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Xbox One S has been uber-cheap in the UK ever since the Xbox One X launched. You can tell Microsoft's throwing absolutely everything at November again.
This seems to be how they roll now.
This seems to be how they roll now.
4.3m for Ps4
3.2m for Xbox One
1.35:1 LTD ratio in favor of Ps4
1.5:1 seems to high as the ratio at the beginning of 2016 was estimated to be around 1.25:1
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/03/23/ps4-xbox-one-sales-reach-5-1-million-uk-says-game/
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For a comparation, in USA PS4 was head of XB1 by 10.5% by the end of 2016, and in September 2017 PS4 is head by 15.9% in lifetime sales.
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