I consider myself a liberal, but this rise is completely to be blamed on the left.
"I'm not a conservative but the left is to blame". Let me guess, you're not islamophobic but islam is to blame? You're not fooling anybody
I consider myself a liberal, but this rise is completely to be blamed on the left.
"I'm not a conservative but the left is to blame". Let me guess, you're not islamophobic but islam is to blame? You're not fooling anybody
Way to miss the point and deflect. Are you really trying to claim that religion doesn't have an LGBT issue?
What myth, being openly gay in SA can be a literal death sentence.The world has diversity issues however your framing of those issues is telling. There's this myth that the middle east has been a "no gay zone" and that
yet there is no evidence of such systematic killing. If you have some, that is not pinkwashing by zionist propaganda then feel free to share it. Am I saying middle eastern countries are "lgbt friendly" or trying undermine and handwave away the real and often severe issues and challenges lgbt individuals are facing in the region? Don't be ridiculous but at the same time i'm not going to pretend there's some sort of anti-lgbt genocide occurring. What is occurring and is certifiable is the genocide and ethnic cleansing of a people based on their race no matter their gender/orientation. What's even more egregious is that lgbt marginalization is being used as political tool to justify said racism and genocide - just as the palestinian based lgbt organizations attest to.
What myth, being openly gay in SA can be a literal death sentence.
This is some deflection alright. Please identify in this thread where the PA's actions are being used to justify Israel's ethnic cleansing.
The world has diversity issues however your framing of those issues is telling. There's this myth that the middle east has been a "no gay zone" and that
yet there is no evidence of such systematic killing. If you have some, that is not pinkwashing by zionist propaganda then feel free to share it. Am I saying middle eastern countries are "lgbt friendly" or trying undermine and handwave away the real and often severe issues and challenges lgbt individuals are facing in the region? Don't be ridiculous but at the same time i'm not going to pretend there's some sort of anti-lgbt genocide occurring. What is occurring and is certifiable is the genocide and ethnic cleansing of a people based on their race no matter their gender/orientation. What's even more egregious is that lgbt marginalization is being used as political tool to justify said racism and genocide - just as the palestinian based lgbt organizations attest to.
You mean that same SA that israel has proudly improved economic and political ties with and supports? That same SA that is a key US ally in the region? That SA? SA is also not the entire middle east but rather constantly in competition with israel to see who could outdo the other in terms of atrocities
The world has diversity issues however your framing of those issues is telling. There's this myth that the middle east has been a "no gay zone" and that
yet there is no evidence of such systematic killing. If you have some, that is not pinkwashing by zionist propaganda then feel free to share it. Am I saying middle eastern countries are "lgbt friendly" or trying undermine and handwave away the real and often severe issues and challenges lgbt individuals are facing in the region? Don't be ridiculous but at the same time i'm not going to pretend there's some sort of anti-lgbt genocide occurring. What is occurring and is certifiable is the genocide and ethnic cleansing of a people based on their race no matter their gender/orientation. What's even more egregious is that lgbt marginalization is being used as political tool to justify said racism and genocide - just as the palestinian based lgbt organizations attest to.
That's honestly not an excuse to be shitty human beings.did we really expect Palestine to catch up with the rest of the world whilst being stuck in an oppressive hell hole
they haven't even had a chance to get going really
Yep. Instead of banning LGBT+ activity, we should just ban religion worldwide. Surprise, the world is suddenly a way better place!Religion turns people into shitty human beings devoid of empathy.
The world has diversity issues however your framing of those issues is telling. There's this myth that the middle east has been a "no gay zone" and that
yet there is no evidence of such systematic killing. If you have some, that is not pinkwashing by zionist propaganda then feel free to share it. Am I saying middle eastern countries are "lgbt friendly" or trying undermine and handwave away the real and often severe issues and challenges lgbt individuals are facing in the region? Don't be ridiculous but at the same time i'm not going to pretend there's some sort of anti-lgbt genocide occurring. What is occurring and is certifiable is the genocide and ethnic cleansing of a people based on their race no matter their gender/orientation. What's even more egregious is that lgbt marginalization is being used as political tool to justify said racism and genocide - just as the palestinian based lgbt organizations attest to.
I'm sorry but accepting people to be different is a matter of decency to me, not education.Well, proper viewpoint about matters such as these require investments in education, and communication with other culture.
It's hard to do that when you're facing genocidal attempt from a militaristic entity hell bent on erasing you from the world every single day.
Well, proper viewpoint about matters such as these require investments in education, and communication with other culture.
It's hard to do that when you're facing genocidal attempt from a militaristic entity hell bent on erasing you from the world every single day.
Well, proper viewpoint about matters such as these require investments in education, and communication with other culture.
It's hard to do that when you're facing genocidal attempt from a militaristic entity hell bent on erasing you from the world every single day.
There are also other shitty laws being enforced there, including:Brunei is introducing strict new Islamic laws that make anal sex and adultery offences punishable by stoning to death. The new measures, that come into force on Wednesday, also cover a range of other crimes including punishment for theft by amputation.The sultan of the small South-East Asian nation on Wednesday called for "stronger" Islamic teachings. "I want to see Islamic teachings in this country grow stronger," Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah said in a public address, according to AFP news agency, without mentioning the strict new interpretation of Sharia, or Islamic law.
We are going to stone gay people to death because we need men to marry women!!The new penal code, which also provides for the amputation of thieves and whipping of people wearing clothes associated with the opposite sex, was brought in on 3 April, despite international condemnation. But in the letter, the kingdom claimed the outcry is due to a misconception that it wanted to clarify. "The criminalisation of adultery and sodomy is to safeguard the sanctity of family lineage and marriage to individual Muslims, particularly women," it said.
I'm sorry but accepting people to be different is a matter of decency to me, not education.
I'm done making excuses for racists and bigots.
The Palestinian plight is an awful one. But actively deciding to enact oppressive and horrific rules doesn't get excused by being oppressed yourself.
This isn't something they've been compelled to do, they've chosen to do it. It's disgusting that people are actually trying to downplay this.
It isn't "unfortunate"... it is a disgrace
So what's the deal then with Brunei, the 5th richest country in the world, very recently implementing laws that allow for gay people to be stoned to death?
There are also other shitty laws being enforced there, including:
We are going to stone gay people to death because we need men to marry women!!
Are you saying that countries like Indonesia and Malaysia that cane and fine gay people don't invest in education?
The recent news about Saudi women being allowed to travel independently for the first time made me literally laugh. Like damn. It's the 21st fucking century and only now can these Saudi women travel by themselves without being accompanied by a man. Like how fucking medieval can one be...
I understand. Again, I am merely hoping that this is not enough excuse for anyone to allow the genocidal attempt being pulled against them to go unabated.
Speaking as a non binary lesbian, the LGBT folks in here going "welp fuck Palestine, I'm supporting Israel now" is fucking disgusting. Fuck all the LGBT people living in Palestine who are being oppressed on two fronts, I guess? "Israel can give them shelter to pwn those dirty muslims" Israel will fucking blackmail them into becoming informants and likely get them hurt/killed. Israel doesn't give a FUCK about Palestinian lives, LGBT or not. Palestine deserves freedom. Palestinian LGBT people deserve freedom. By supporting Israel, you are betraying them. Think about that.
A tool and trap the PA fell into by their own doing . It's absurd to insinuate calling oppressors what they are is wrong even if they themselves are being oppressed. Don't even peddle that garbage. They should know better than anyone.The world has diversity issues however your framing of those issues is telling. There's this myth that the middle east has been a "no gay zone" and that
yet there is no evidence of such systematic killing. If you have some, that is not pinkwashing by zionist propaganda then feel free to share it. Am I saying middle eastern countries are "lgbt friendly" or trying undermine and handwave away the real and often severe issues and challenges lgbt individuals are facing in the region? Don't be ridiculous but at the same time i'm not going to pretend there's some sort of anti-lgbt genocide occurring. What is occurring and is certifiable is the genocide and ethnic cleansing of a people based on their race no matter their gender/orientation. What's even more egregious is that lgbt marginalization is being used as political tool to justify said racism and genocide - just as the palestinian based lgbt organizations attest to.
Who is doing that? It is okay to say that Israel is a monstrous apartheid state, and that Palestine is enacting horrific and oppressive rules on some of their most vulnerable.
What's annoying is the posts that basically downplay how shitty this is by stating they're oppressed. No shit, does that make it okay to oppress others now?
Didn't realise you could only condemn one thing at once.
Oh absolutely not, fuck Israel.I understand. Again, I am merely hoping that this is not enough excuse for anyone to allow the genocidal attempt being pulled against them to go unabated.
Who is doing that? It is okay to say that Israel is a monstrous apartheid state, and that Palestine is enacting horrific and oppressive rules on some of their most vulnerable.
What's annoying is the posts that basically downplay how shitty this is by stating they're oppressed. No shit, does that make it okay to oppress others now?
Didn't realise you could only condemn one thing at once.
Welp I feel like an ass now for constantly saying " Free Palestine " ugh
A lot of my friends (who are gay) are pro-Palestinian. This will make it easy for them to become neutral at the very least. Some will be anti-Palestine. Can't really blame this on this one.
I'll be one of too. Nothing will make me do a complete 180 faster than banning or killing me and my community.
Fuck the Palestinian Authority.
I hope Israel gives the Palestinian lgbt folks some sort of asylum to show these bigots how it's done.
Friendly reminder since it's overlooked page after page.
THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY PACTS WITH THE OPPRESORS OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
Let that sink in.
Friendly reminder since it's overlooked page after page.
THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY PACTS WITH THE OPPRESORS OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
Let that sink in.
It's ok to want justice and peace for the palestinian people
and to condemn an organizations/people in power/government bodies that support this shit.
What is not ok is to
1. Blanket "well fuck palestine then" statements
2. "It's ok that some of them hate gay people, the important thing is fuck israel" statements.
Dunno why everything nowadays have to be such a one track only discussion.
And they're also not the only part where the homophobia is coming from, stop defending this.
Seriously though, this could actually lead to a nontrivial improvement in human rights around the world.Yep. Instead of banning LGBT+ activity, we should just ban religion worldwide. Surprise, the world is suddenly a way better place!
I'm absolutely serious. Fuck religion and all the bad it has done to our world.
I'm condemning it. They are enemy of the Palestine people too.
I'm not goign to say "Well, fuck Palestine too" when the ones pushing for this are the same pacting with Israel.
Should we say "fuck everyone in the US" for Trump?
You are whatabouting. I never asked or expected you to say ''fuck Palestine'', I'm just really tired of LGBT rights coming with ifs or buts and what aboutisms when it comes to the religion. If you do proper research, you'd know where the homophobia and transphobia is coming from and how widespread it is.
Friendly reminder since it's overlooked page after page.
THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY PACTS WITH THE OPPRESORS OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
Let that sink in.