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jackissocool

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Oct 28, 2017
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https://www.pamelaandersonfoundation.org/news/2018/12/18/revolt-dont-react

I look around and in so many countries I see one common denominator. A revolt of the periphery. From the election of Trump as president, to Brexit, Catalonia, the Yellow Vests... and I wonder if it is because capitalism at the periphery is always more drastic, more cruel.

People in so many places do not feel represented by the or their politicians. They know that it doesn't really matter who they actually vote for because nothing much will change in their lives. Because the real power does not sit in the ballot box. It sits elsewhere. The power is in the global hands of big business and financial capital.

And into this post-democracy world, enter the so called "populists". Or – as some call it - the "strong man politics".
It makes sense to me why the periphery vote the way they do. The status quo has made it impossible for them to dream of a different future, a better future, so they are forced to idealize the past.

It also makes sense to me why they do not respond to calls for solidarity. Solidarity cannot be ordered. The impoverished middle and working classes, who cannot afford much, feel forced to defend what little they have left and so they become radicalised through fear; the fear of loss. And then the rich and the privileged and the state (and the banks too) are already so powerful and wealthy that they direct their anger towards the weaker groups of society. Towards refugees and minorities.
So it makes sense but it is also worrying.
The future will be either revolutionary or reactionary.
Pamela Anderson is actually going to be the vanguard of the revolution.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
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Isn't she dating Assange? Might be a KGB recruiting front
 

Mivey

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Oct 25, 2017
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A spectre is haunting Europe - a spectre that is running really slowly towards communism.
 

sapien85

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Nov 8, 2017
5,427
If anyone still thought we're not living in some bizarro timeline for the last three years...

Feels like Earth is a reality show run by aliens like in that South Park episode.
 

CoolestSpot

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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't you worry
It's gonna be alright
'Cause I'm always ready
I won't let you out of my sight
I'll be ready (I'll be ready)
Never you fear (no don't you fear)
I'll be ready, forever and always
I'm always here
In us we all have the power
But sometimes it's so hard to see
And instinct is stronger than reason
It's just human nature to me
Don't you worry
It's gonna be alright
'Cause I'm always ready
I won't let you out of my sight
'Cause I'm always ready
I won't let you out of my sight
I'll be ready (I'll be ready)
Never you fear (no don't you fear)
I'll be ready
Forever and always
I'm always here
Forever and always
I'm always here
 

Buzzman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pamela go on chapo.

Edit:
She similarly responded to claims of protester violence by tweeting "I despise violence . . . but what is the violence of all these people and burned luxurious cars, compared to the structural violence of the French — and global — elites?"

Showing her broad interest in the political upheavals currently gripping the continent, she has in recent days also voiced her support for left-wing UK Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn while also sharply criticizing Italy's far-right interior minister Matteo Salvini for his racist agenda.
holy shit YES
 

Frank

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pam fucking Anderson calling for a revolution is a fitting way to close out 2018.
 

Tebunker

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean at least she didn't go full fascist/white supremacist which is where I initially thought this was gonna head?

Who knows, always could have that heel turn.

Pam Anderson isnt the revolutionary you wanted but she's no nope not gonna type it out.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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No, and the KGB hasn't existed for 27 years.

Thats what they want you to think

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Kormora

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Nov 7, 2017
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We live in the strangest timeline....

"We must offer an alternative democratic and socially-just society, one devoid of social democratic compromises"
 

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
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Uphold Marxism-Leninism-Andersonism, the highest and most dialectically advanced theory of revolutionary scientific socialism.

So a democratic society devoid of democratic compromises?

No, she's actually speaking pretty clearly here. She's saying social democracy, ie the European style welfare state, is an impediment to socialism (workers' democracy)and must be overcome as just another aspect of capitalism.
 

Kormora

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Nov 7, 2017
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She wrote more here.



What about the violence?

I am a committed pacifist. I despise violence. But I also know that when protests end in violence it is too often the failure and the fault of the state. The failure of the state to enable people to be heard. This is the position of many international human rights organisations including Amnesty International.

Also, the critics of "violent riots" pretend that the current capitalist society is non-violent. Violence is a part of modern society and comes in many forms.

For example, Philippe Bourgois recognises four types of violence.

Political violence is conducted in the name of some state power or ideology.

Structural violence concerns the political and economic order of society in which the conditions of inequality and exploitation are institutionalised, including the exploitation of "cheap labour" and natural resources in the developing world.

Symbolic violence is involved when the oppressed and powerless internalize their humiliation and inequality.

And finally, everyday violence is the violence of "ordinary" life, such as criminality or domestic violence. This violence is often closely linked to structural violence (for example criminality can be associated with poverty) or a symbolic one (domestic violence can be linked to gender inequality).

So what is the violence of all these people and burned luxurious cars compared to the structural violence of the French and global elites?

When some protesters destroy cars and burn shops, they symbolically attack private property that is the basis of capitalism. When they attack police officers, they symbolically reject and challenge repressive state forces - forces that primarily protect the capital.

Moralising about burned cars and banks' broken windows is misplaced. This must be seen in the context of the current status quo. A status quo in which the power of the powerful and the powerlessness of the powerless is maintained. A status quo of societies where only a few profit and the many loose.

What is next?

Yellow Vests are calling for a new social justice order, for the right to live in dignity based on fair wages and a fair tax system. The only solution is to create such a system. A system that will stand for respect of community life: for redistribution of the wealth to the benefit of the people and the nation. Because the people have been excluded from the distribution of wealth thus far and have been left destitute.

Love

Pamela
 
Oct 28, 2017
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There's also a recent interview in Jacobin:

Pamela Anderson on Europe's Turmoil

It is vital that the European Union is thoroughly and fundamentally reformed. Europe deserves a much better form of organized cooperation. And I would really support the UK attempting to create an alternative for Europe. But retreating to nationalistic tendencies is not an alternative. The only road to freedom is via a joint fight of the unprivileged. This means foreign workers included.
The current deal proposed by Theresa May does not offer such an alternative. I joked that I'm sure I could have negotiated better conditions than this dumb deal. I have been negotiating with Hollywood for decades. I could handle Mr. Michel Barnier [the European Union's chief negotiator].
Did you see Theresa May not being able to get out of her car while Merkel was waiting outside? That's the best metaphor for Brexit. In such a situation, the solution is not a second referendum, but a general election. And I hope Jeremy Corbyn will be the next prime minister.
 

Kirblar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am shocked, shocked that Anderson would endorse terrible views that promote violent solutions to problems in lieu of normal alternatives.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Uh...so I had no context of Pam Anderson other than what shes famous for. Is that whats happening here? Shes pushing socialism?
 

Xx 720

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Nov 3, 2017
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There's a Fidel, Stalin, Dear Leader etc. who will happily 'serve the people' post revolution. No thanks.
 

mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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When you see the far left selling its soul for some electoral points with the yellow vest I'm not sure it's a great alternative to far right rising in the EU when they're basically perfectly willing to throw ideals just to keep a movement going.
 

House_Of_Lightning

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Oct 29, 2017
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Uphold Marxism-Leninism-Andersonism, the highest and most dialectically advanced theory of revolutionary scientific socialism.



No, she's actually speaking pretty clearly here. She's saying social democracy, ie the European style welfare state, is an impediment to socialism (workers' democracy)and must be overcome as just another aspect of capitalism.

To her credit if this is indeed the case then her understanding of Socialism is deeper than 99% of "socialists".

Though she probably just thinks social democracy with a gun is the right path
 

Foffy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did not expect any of this from Pamela Anderson, and I'm not sure what to think.

So much of what's being said has weight, but where's the "hey waitaminute" card? Is it the Julian Assange thing people are mentioning?
 

Kirblar

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HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did not expect any of this from Pamela Anderson, and I'm not sure what to think.

So much of what's being said has weight, but where's the "hey waitaminute" card? Is it the Julian Assange thing people are mentioning?

She's know to support dumb causes like PETA so I'm not exactly trusting of this latest turn of events.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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"I have so many ideas."

Well, what are they? You can establish that we've abolished the future to fetishize a romanticized past (many of us didn't even share) as a perennial now but if you think you deserve any trust give us a glimpse of how things could be different and without comic book movies.