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PC Gaming Era | January 2019 - Return of the Obra Dinn wins PC Gaming Era GOTY
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That's fine.
But there are also policies that were directly precipitated by the AAA publishers exiting the storefront. It's not a case that Valve simply planned everything in advance and it just happened to coincide with more of them departing the platform.
You can say things change anyway, but it's also true that more things can change as a result of this, and those changes will likely occur faster. (Change is coming either way, because the major publishers are leaving regardless.)
I don't know about the exact timing, but, yeah, Polygon says Epic will be covering it for only "a limited time".
People are mainly complaining because of the monopoly Steam has on PC gaming. They are using Half Life 2 not being on other platforms as an example of a game being exclusive on one platform. While I did criticize EGS for making Metro Exodus an exclusive, that was only due to how close it was to the release date and how it was available for pre-orders. It would still be released on Steam, just not this year. Those whom mostly criticize EGS mainly talk about their "exclusives" or lack of features as compared to Steam or about its current limited games library rather than its security vulnerabilities or lack of a support forum for their specific games.
Sure. And thats why I think it kinda is a good thing for devs. It might not be a good thing for consumers though.
When even Sweeney is saying 12% is too low so they cant pay the payment fees and gives it to the consumers. It totally seems like the real cut for having such a business should be around 18-20% and that is where Valve is now with succesful devs and I am sure they will lower the requirements of sales even more in the future.
This whole "console war" on PC though is not good for consumers right now and that is why I dont get why all the articles or opinion pieces are black and white. No one actually mentions what storefronts are doing well and what they are doing bad.
Dat Fortnite cash flow tho.
Its hard to see ever dropping the 12% . Is the one sole thing they have going for it. It's a shitty, terrible store with no features, and giving up their only thing they have would get massive amounts of backlash.
Sure. And thats why I think it kinda is a good thing for devs. It might not be a good thing for consumers though.
When even Sweeney is saying 12% is too low so they cant pay the payment fees and gives it to the consumers. It totally seems like the real cut for having such a business should be around 18-20% and that is where Valve is now with succesful devs and I am sure they will lower the requirements of sales even more in the future.
This whole "console war" on PC though is not good for consumers right now and that is why I dont get why all the articles or opinion pieces are black and white. No one actually mentions what storefronts are doing well and what they are doing bad.
The lack of forums and support is mentioned a lot on Era imo. Besides that I mention that piracy of those exclusive games will rise and might lead to less sales after the timed exclusivity runs out.
I had it installed for Fortnite and Shadow Complex, and then just grab the free games. I do want to play Metro, but wasn't planning to for a while, so I may just wait for Steam release. I have mixed feelings on EGS, but I think the biggest thing for me is people look at the Valve cut from games and they don't realize how many things the developer gets from that partnership. They just see the 30% and call Valve thieves or whatever.
But the whole Metro thing is such a shitshow. I also had similar feelings with Ashen as I was planning playing that on PC with GamePass Play Anywhere, and now I have to wait a year, if the timed exclusive has been confirmed. If Epic wants exclusives, cool, whatever, but swooping in at the last minute to gate off players is so shitty.
I have a GTX 980, I thought it was a much popular card than it really is.
They bank on gullible
They bank on the games media doing their PR for them by feasting on Valve hate, like from Nathan from Kotaku.
Like pro-consumer toxicity? Mumbo jumbo to somehow attack Valve for providing consumer friendly features.
There's also the waiving of the UE royalty fee. That will definitely remain in place, I think, regardless of circumstances.
I could join in on the beer.gif's, but I don't really understand what caused this response to begin with
Honestly, Uplay is more feature complete than Epic. At least I get local prices.
oof accurate, that and games enthusiast media doing free PR for them
Anyone do the Steam survey today? GTX 1060 is the most popular GFX card. My 1050 in third place.
Where is my 970 at?
You would let Slayven win?
In the USA mission, disguise yourself a realtor and see what he says when he is describing a house to the target.
I get everything in Euros on Uplay and I don't even live in the EU =_=
The only other thing Epic has going for it is the bunch of free games they give any random with a YouTube channel.
I don't think Devs will like it, tho.
I don't think Devs will like it, tho.
You guys need new buzz phrases cause that toxic cowboy shit and the guilt trip shit are already worn out
It'd be preferable to this
It'd be preferable to this
I love it that people are acting like free games is such a new paradigm for PC gaming.
As if every store avaliable hasent been doing that.
Shows you how much attention this place puts on PC gaming
I don't know why i bother pre-loading cos I just end up waiting ages to unpack >_>
What about "effective monopoly"?
What about "effective monopoly"?
I'm a random with a Youtube channel. Do you mean I could get Hades for free?
Yeah, that's what he said. I'm just saying I haven't been keeping a close enough eye on things to have read/heard that myself.
I've read this a million times since pre-load was a thing. Because of this, I myself have never pre-loaded a game and have always downloaded them at release instead. Usually pretty fast with my internet.
Is unpacking pre-loads slow even with SSD's though? Is it a processor thing? Everybody says the unpacking is slow, but nobody ever mentions their specs so I am curios.
How are the chances that Valve will create something like SteamPass? I would love that.
Would publishers join in?
EDIT: Of course not for the whole Steam store. Limited to 10 or so titles you can choose or something like that.
EDIT 2: I think it's a bad idea for indies devs. Sorry.
Would publishers join in?
EDIT: Of course not for the whole Steam store. Limited to 10 or so titles you can choose or something like that.
EDIT 2: I think it's a bad idea for indies devs. Sorry.
Well i've an i7 4790k with 16GB RAM and an SSD, plus a GTX970 fwiw
It's an older rig to be sure but it's still holding quite well and by no means slow in general =/
Are you one of those newfangled pro-Epic alt-accounts popping up everywhere lately that'll go off the rails sooner or later?
I don't get if you are doing it as a joke but is there any need to basically keep saying we suck in each comment?
Are people not allowed to sit the epic store or think what they are doing is fine all of a sudden?
I personally have no issues with competition to steam. Steam in my eyes has been terrible for years and with no competition, they haven't been forced to improve. If epic stealing a few games forces them to have to compete in other ways, all the better
No competition. No improvements. Yet Epic has to moneyhat games to compete because they can't catch up with a store that hasn't been improving for years.
Also where did you suddenly come from? Did I call out your alt?
Oh I wasn't saying you have a slow rig! I was just curious about the specs since everyone always says pre-load unpacking is slow.
I guess I will keep avoiding it. Also it just seems like unnecessary "wear and tear" (hope that's the right expression) on your SSD.
Yea it sucks they are taking so long. I've been ready for days now to go back and tend to
I wonder what people mean with 'Steam being terrible for years'. The only really bad incident I recall was a Christmas morning when data from other users being exposed on different profiles. Other than that everything has been fine?
Valve has added more to Steam then Epic has added to the Epic store;
And Epic has a whole list of features they haven't even hit the basics of the basics yet.
Like cloud saves.
Epic in 2018-2019 is worse then Steam was 10 years ago.
Well, instead you can get Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China for free from Uplay! That's the same, right?
Look. I'll shit on Steam for days. I do so on the regular, they've got issues. But to imply that Steam hasn't been improving year after year, that they don't have features that literally no one else has? That's disingenuous.
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