PC Gaming Era | March 2019 - The Ides of Smarch

Mar 14, 2019
180
What were they doing the last three years with their launcher if the store has been in the planning for years apparently? And what would've been their plan if Fortnite Battle Royal wouldn't have taken off so they can buy their way into the market? Everything about this store seems amateurish and I'm supposed to use "just another free client" and trust them with payment info and my private data.



You're welcome!

Edit.: Read the Eurogamer article about the data accusations. Why does every news about the Epic Game Store contain a dig at "disgruntled hardcore PC gamers that got their jimmies rustled by Epic"? Like, what the fuck? There is nothing gained by including this.
It keeps their narrative consistent and allows them to marginalize legitimate concerns as just another complaint from "that small group of steam diehards"

Also, by making Steam seem like some kind of a cult, they are reinforcing their perception that Steam is a bad, it's a monopoly, etc.
 
Nov 1, 2017
1,246
The sequence where you first encounter Hela on the bridge in Hellblade VR is probably the most incredible experience I’ve encountered in gaming. The scale of hela towering over you and the camera work that follows in the next sequence shows off the cinematic potential of vr to an amazing degree.

Release deserves so much more press than it got, tho I suppose there’s not much to be done when it both requires an expensive headset and recommends a 1080 as the baseline
Crikey you weren't wrong about the sense of scale and impact in VR. I just got to the bit at the start before the bridge door where Senua comes right up to your face and looks you right in the eyes.

Also I like how her head kind of follows what you are looking at, nice touch.

I can only play VR for an hour or two before i get a bit of a head ache so will continue this game later but it is pretty impressive.
 
Oct 25, 2017
255
CZ
Edit.: Read the Eurogamer article about the data accusations. Why does every news about the Epic Game Store contain a dig at "disgruntled hardcore PC gamers that got their jimmies rustled by Epic"? Like, what the fuck? There is nothing gained by including this.
Nothing gained? Well Epics favour is worth all of it
 
Oct 25, 2017
22,053
Wow

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...uncher-accesses-steam-data-without-permission

"Despite Epic's attempt to clear up how the Epic Games store actually works, user scrutiny and scepticism doesn't look like it's going anywhere. There appears to be a groundswell of discontent at the company's attempt to disrupt Valve's control over the PC gaming market, and a pushback on the drive for Epic Games store exclusives from the hardcore PC gaming community"
 
Oct 25, 2017
22,053
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/03/15/epic-games-deny-spying-allegations/

Gamingchair detectives prodding at the Epic Games Launcher recently discovered that the client scans your Steam account, investigates what other software is running on your PC, does something with Internet browser root certificates and cookies… which led to the surprising conclusion that Epic, at the behest of Chinese part-owner Tencent, are spying on us and sending our data to the Chinese government for dark purposes. Mmmmmnooo, Epic responded, that is not what’s happening. Ah, the Internet!
Anti-Epic Store sentiments are riding high as they keep splashing megabucks on securing scloosies, and this was inevitable: someone with a little knowledge, enough to be dangerous, jumping to conspiratorial (and tbh kinda racist) conclusions.

Then amateur analysis was taken as fact and stripped of context and passed around the cybernet, prompting Epic to respond and try to clear it up.

As much as I might like to see Epic’s exclusives not be exclusive (which tbh isn’t a MASSIVE amount because I have a half-dozen clients installed anyway), let’s not go instantly buying into conspiracy theories just because they justify our dislikes, yeah?
Not that RPS were ever good, but aye, they can get tae fuck the brown-nosing little shitehawks
 
Oct 27, 2017
336
As I expected, the games media will assist Epic in buring something like this.
This is one of the issues that arises when the media has to rely on commercial relationships with the same companies they are meant to report on, especially in an industry where access and ad space play such a big role.
 
Last edited:

Chance Hale

Self - Ban
Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,216
Colorado
I can only play VR for an hour or two before i get a bit of a head ache so will continue this game later but it is pretty impressive.
I always play with a continuous camera and no snap turning in vr since I find it so immersion breaking and Hellblade was the first game to give me real motion sickness so definitely a good idea to take breaks. Do get used to it tho or at least I did as I went from playing 30 minutes to a 2 hour session.

And absolutely unbelievable on RPS part, this goes beyond ignorance at this point and into very sketchy territory.
 
Last edited:
Oct 26, 2017
1,212
France
WTF? What's the racist part?
It must be this:
Apparently, a deleted comment mentioned racism:
Edit: Found it.

The agenda here in this conspiracy theory like pseudo programming is so apparent.
It is like listening to people who are anti-vax but with programs, unable to understand programming like not being able to understand the science behind vaccinations with all the morality of "I want to protect others from the dangers"
Nothing at all that you have shown is of any concern at all, nothing you have done would even uncover anything in the first place. it is like someone looking through a microscope at a medicine with no scientific knowledge and claiming it is really trying to kill you because you "noticed" things and the medicine was made in China, which is important because of thinly veiled racism.
And this one:
 
Last edited:
Nov 10, 2017
6,547
WTF? What's the racist part?
Most likely the discussion about Tencant and distrust of Chinese companies, or more likely some fucko leaving a comment somewhere on reddit or elsewhere about this.

Disappointed by RPS. But, this is the kind of thing that drew me to RPS in the first place, blistering hot takes, so its to be expected.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,278
Italy
Well, RPS and Eurogamer were the only two gaming-related outlets I was able to read without getting annoyed as hell because they looked like the closest thing to actual journalism but apparently they can't be trusted with hot takes no different from those you can read from your average poster on your average message board. Alright.
 
Nov 1, 2017
1,246
I always play with a continuous camera and no snap turning in vr since I found it so immersion breaking and Hellblade was the first game to give me real motion sickness so definitely a good idea to take breaks. Do get used to it tho or at least I did as I went from playing 30 minutes to a 2 hour session.
.
Im alright in cockpit based games. Played a load of Elite Dangerous in VR (which is feking brilliant) without issues. It just seems to be a few types of games that give me issues and this is one of them. Ill try playing around with the snap turning settings.
 
Nov 4, 2017
930
Any investigative work done by the non-journalist audience, that has ramifications beyond...say...finding a glitch in a looter shooter, will be met with much harsher scrutiny and upturned noses by outlets. This is just one more negative side effect of GamerGate; any audience dogpiling or "bitch eating crackers" on something will be met with pushback.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,590
It's depressing with RPS and PC Gamer, because if there's really no issue with Epic doing what they're doing then a reasoned, in-depth article - with interviews and requests to comment from Sweeney/Galyonkin/Epic and Valve/Gabe/whoever - would put the whole thing to bed, done-and-dusted. What both sites have instead done is push a specific line without deigning to consider that there may actually be a problem. By dismissing the issue out of hand, it just makes it look like there's something to hide.
 
Nov 10, 2017
6,547
Any investigative work done by the non-journalist audience, that has ramifications beyond...say...finding a glitch in a looter shooter, will be met with much harsher scrutiny and upturned noses by outlets. This is just one more negative side effect of GamerGate; any audience dogpiling or "bitch eating crackers" on something will be met with pushback.
Gamergate did a number on the video gaming public and its relation with the Video gaming media. I don't blame the media for distancing themselves and taking the stance that often the gaming public needs to take a breath and step back from the mob. We've got work to do and I don't mind the games media calling us out every now and then.

I'm not even against RPS take, as we all have spy devices in our pockets. Its the world. However, I'm not really interested in downplaying someone's concern/anger over this. I don't know what steps people take to secure their private information and how controlling it matters to them and I'm not going to finger wag and they them they're overacting. Also, many others have pointed out how Epics explanation of the feature doesn't match up with the data and local file information collected and perhaps sent back to Epic.

What frustrates me more about the recent RPS articles is that even when Steam offers a new feature, its because of Epic games. When Epic Games gives a dev a bag of money, they stop short of calling a spade a spade. I thought they were more of a actual investigative outlet, when it seems like now they're more a place for offering opinions on just games themselves and the gaming landscape in broad strokes and relaying press releases. In 2008 they were openly critical of major gaming companies when they gave us the PR spin and now Epic Games is getting the kid gloves treatment.