Is there any actual evidence/data of Epic investing/buying into outlets?
IIRC PCGamer had sponsored Epic content before AND they invest heavily into the E3 PCGamer show.
Is there any actual evidence/data of Epic investing/buying into outlets?
PCGamesN had Epic sponsored content posted under the guise of legitimate articles, with a disclaimer.Is there any actual evidence/data of Epic investing/buying into outlets?
IIRC PCGamer had sponsored Epic content before AND they invest heavily into the E3 PCGamer show.
Thx, because I am getting flak on twitter because I statet that.PCGamesN had Epic sponsored content posted under the guise of legitimate articles, with a disclaimer.
This is more likely to be Amazon/Twitch exclusive, if the rumors are true.
I don't actually have too much of a problem with them launching with a small set of features and then posting a roadmap to show when the others arrive.
What I have a problem with basically amounts to 2 things:
- Their exclusive deals, data tracking, etc clearly showing what their priorities were.
- The idea that we should support them based on the trust that they'll get it right eventually. No, people should only use them after they have proven their worth. They have done absolutely nothing to show they are trustworthy.
This is more likely to be Amazon/Twitch exclusive, if the rumors are true.
The first Devolver game has been removed from Steam:
https://steamdb.info/app/906100/history/
906100 App was deleted, previous name: Observation
last update from 5th March, now deleted. You know what that means.
I don't actually have too much of a problem with them launching with a small set of features and then posting a roadmap to show when the others arrive.
What I have a problem with basically amounts to 2 things:
"Too many" features is 100% BS, though.
- Their exclusive deals, data tracking, etc clearly showing what their priorities were.
- The idea that we should support them based on the trust that they'll get it right eventually. No, people should only use them after they have proven their worth. They have done absolutely nothing to show they are trustworthy.
Too many features sigh. It would be hysterical if every website wasn't acting as a pr arm for such utter bullshit.
'We have to compete the way we do because we think Steam is TOO good for the consumer'
Yes they are actually using that joke as an excuse
As to a store, competing on features alone, we believe that wouldn't be enough to gain traction.
Consumers have a right to not want to use them because of that, and to criticize their client because of missing basic features. I've criticized them heavily for it.I take offense to them minimizing them not even having the most basic of features for a store in 2019.
What client doesn't have cloud Saves in 2019?
And it's now on a road map for the future? Something Steam made a feature a decade ago?
If I am in China I cant even buy any exclusive games or play them unless I would pirate them...
The Epic Games Store already has a positive reputation, despite its short time on the market.
https://www.usgamer.net/articles/epic-games-store-road-map
Reminds me of that mod here talking about the "Good will" Epic have been generating recently.Great. Will make a game in 1 evening and go to Epic with that!
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Reminds me of that mod here talking about the "Good will" Epic have been generating recently.
Like... what good will?
Reminds me of that mod here talking about the "Good will" Epic have been generating recently.
Like... what good will?
He may not be wrong about that. Let us say Epic Games Store has all the features which Steam has.
Why would any Steam user buy a game from them rather than from Steam?
Apart from exclusivity, their only (realistic) hope to attract existing Steam users would be very aggressive pricing.
- Lower prices / better discounts,
- Same prices, but with a percentage given to charity,
- The game is not available on Steam,
- People like to create new accounts (?),
- Valve becomes evil (?),
- Original store features (???),
- ???
And I am not sure this would be enough. People want Steam keys these days.
AmazonTony's turn.The first Devolver game has been removed from Steam:
https://steamdb.info/app/906100/history/
906100 App was deleted, previous name: Observation
last update from 5th March, now deleted. You know what that means.
Hopefully it's not as broken as the xbone version at launch :)Missed the past couple days. MCC on steam...very excited for this.
If Epic implements their Steam Workshop equivalent (presumably paid mods because yay developers), I can see Bethesda releasing their games exclusively on EGS.
He may not be wrong about that. Let us say Epic Games Store has all the features which Steam has.
Why would any Steam user buy a game from them rather than from Steam?
Apart from exclusivity, their only hope to attract existing Steam users would be a very aggressive pricing.
- Lower price / better discount,
- Same price, but with a percentage given to charity,
- The game is not available on Steam,
- People like to create new accounts (?)
- Steam becomes evil (?)
- ???
Shame Devolver followedThe first Devolver game has been removed from Steam:
https://steamdb.info/app/906100/history/
906100 App was deleted, previous name: Observation
last update from 5th March, now deleted. You know what that means.
Like Ubisoft. And I believe that Beth is not willing to invest in their own launcher. Hell, it's even worse than the Epic launcher. So when Epic introduces paid mods (and they will, because <3 devs), than it's 100% clear Beth will join them. Doom and TES and people will bite. Guaranteed.Bethesda has already their own launcher, why would they do that and keep 12% less.
The key isn't to compete on how many features you have. People know Valve's been in the game for ages and know that a competitor can't outdo them out of the gate. What matters isn't what you have on day 1, but what the things you have communicate to potential customers. There's an alternate reality where the EGS launches with community features and Epic shouts from the rooftops about how "The EGS will be heavily moderated! It will never be a platform for hate speech!" In that reality, I'm 100% on-board with Epic, because a lack of community moderation is a gigantic problem on Steam, and something I would love to move away from. (Of course, with Sweeney's politics, this could never have happened in our universe.)
It's not that you have to offer everything to compete. But you have to offer something that the competition doesn't. Epic's idea of that something is, "Well, you can't buy a certain games for a year if you don't want them on our platform." That's taking away, not offering something new.
(And honestly, if EGS was actually offering something, people probably wouldn't mind the moneyhats that much. I mean, are people really mad that they're losing choice for a year? Or are they mad that the only option available to them is trash?)
Just giving an update in case anyone has the same problem, installing total warhammer 2 somehow fixed it and now both rome 2 and shogun 2 work flawlesslyThat's a bummer. Might want to make a thread in gaming for some more visibility on the issue.
I'll go ahead and answer this for you. The answer is a resounding "Yes".I mean, are people really mad that they're losing choice for a year? Or are they mad that the only option available to them is trash?)
Did they do something about their store page? Or is this about something else? :D
Like Ubisoft. And I believe that Beth is not willing to invest in their own launcher. Hell, it's even worse than the Epic launcher. So when Epic introduces paid mods (and they will, because <3 devs), than it's 100% clear Beth will join them. Doom and TES and people will bite. Guaranteed.
Also Galyonkin hinted a publisher deal.
It's a pretty funny coincidence that almost all of these sites shilling for Epic (RPS, UGS, Eurogamer, VG247, GamesIndustry) are under the Gamer NetworkGreat. Will make a game in 1 evening and go to Epic with that!
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Oh wow, yeah that isn't a coincidence. The only one missing is PC Gamer.It's a pretty funny coincidence that almost all of these sites shilling for Epic (RPS, UGS, Eurogamer, VG247, GamesIndustry) are under the Gamer Network
What rumors are those? I know Devolver and Twitch have been cozy of late (that Xmas giveaway pack, Pikuniku being released for free to Twitch Prime users ahead of its Steam/GoG release), so it doesn't sound implausibleThis is more likely to be Amazon/Twitch exclusive, if the rumors are true.