Yeah my first thought was I'm not sure it's your call if you have cross platform communication cdproject lol
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PC Gaming ERA | May 2019 - Romance of the Three Storefronts
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Ironic thing is I have the client installed but never used it
I always use the website lol
Seems that Punch Line is coming to Steam tomorrow.
No achievements nor cloud on the storepage so they might just throw it out there like Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters Daybreak: Special Gigs (phew). Hope not but it decides if I buy it or not.
I hate that PQube does this with most of the games they publish on PC. Just a day before release? Come on...
No achievements nor cloud on the storepage so they might just throw it out there like Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters Daybreak: Special Gigs (phew). Hope not but it decides if I buy it or not.
I hate that PQube does this with most of the games they publish on PC. Just a day before release? Come on...
When does that code expire? I may hold off buying it til next friday :X
I watched the first half of that human head q and a video and man if you have to dedicate the first 4 questions trying to convince your playerbase that already gave you money that you're not evil and terrible epics probably not winning the hearts and minds.
also the fact that their twitter, YouTube, subreddit, and messageboards are a tirefire. Like every other egs exclusive game at announcement.
also the fact that their twitter, YouTube, subreddit, and messageboards are a tirefire. Like every other egs exclusive game at announcement.
Funny thing, Masquerada was pretty much the reason I started my curator dedicated to forgotten or missed games. Fantastic game.
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First Riddler bat mobile challenge and I'm struggling with it. Urghhh...this is not fun.
C'mon driving upside down is a totally intuitive thing. Git gud.
I was thinking, with this Epic Mega Sale, for a lot of low priced titles like The Observation...really Epic is paying more than consumers to the devs. Literally some devs are selling the game to Epic instead of the consumers if Epic pays 10€ and the consumers 7-8€ or even less like for TWD Final Season.
When Valve gave 5€ when spending 30€...well, it was a single 5€ voucher applied on a 30€ order, a single time (or another time in case you spent more than...50€? Can't remember. It wasn't on every single title of their catalogue for an infinite amount of times.
When Valve gave 5€ when spending 30€...well, it was a single 5€ voucher applied on a 30€ order, a single time (or another time in case you spent more than...50€? Can't remember. It wasn't on every single title of their catalogue for an infinite amount of times.
And they're actually meaningful discounts.
Why would anybody pay full price for a Ubisoft game? Just wait your 3 months and get 50% + 20% off.
It depends on deal they have. As i said in Metro thread as far as i understand Epic pays for specific amount of copies in advance and until that number of copies is sold publisher/developer gets nothing. So basically Epic already paid for those copies and no it is trying to "get rid" of them.
That GOG Galaxy stuff looks cool though it looks similar to Gamenite from what I've seen from screenshots.
I don't think Avellone has a say in this decision and he will take every opportunity to... speak out criticism against Obsidians upper management (though it might have been out of their control, too)
I don't think Avellone has a say in this decision and he will take every opportunity to... speak out criticism against Obsidians upper management (though it might have been out of their control, too)
Not sure tbh, though some random coupon site thinks it expires Monday May 27. It didn't have a date in my email, or on the site though, so who knows!
That seems like a valid date for it to expire on. I may get it sooner, thanks for the info.
Yeah, it's complete, it's really not great. I remember writing up a big thread about it on the old place - I won't link it for obvious reasons but it can easily be googled.
Nah, Sims 4 base game is basically worthless for them, they are more interested in getting you to buy the DLC than anything else.
In the case of Sims 4 I wouldn't read too much into it. They want people to get to play it and buy DLC/Expansions. There is also the case that they give it away to promote a potential Sims 5.
They stopped giving games away when they introduced Origin Access, and they would always add more games to the Vault than give them for free. That is why i am surprised that they are giving Sims 4 away instead of pushing Origin Access.
That's pretty much what a lot of these moneyhats, especially Phoenix Point are.
Keep in mind that developers who took the deal don't actually receive money from individual sales anymore until the contractually, advanced amount of sales have been reached. They essentially sell their games for a lump sum to Epic and then receive 88% royalties on every copy after a a specific number of minimum copies.
Epic is their customer who in return is trying to attract customers of their own to their service, rather than using the epic store as a storefront to reach an end consumer as their customer.
Thus, the way Epic right now is conducting business is closer to Netlix than Steam.
Origin Access probably has issues with DLC rich games (as people that do not own the game are less likely to buy the DLC). So they probably find it is more profitable to give away the base game (which they consider "worthless") for DLC riches.
not that i doubt you, but was the sales advanced stuff ever explicitly confirmed? it makes sense and I think a lot of people expected it but i don't know if we ever heard it from someone
I've been thinking about this too. If Epic are essentially the customer in this case, what they're doing with these big sales is saying 'We'll buy your product at full price, while devaluing it massively everywhere else.' Which is fine as long as they're buying it at full price. But once they stop, you can't sell it elsewhere because everyone's expecting that low low price.
That sales advance stuff was confirmed in that russian galyonkin podcasts daxy translated
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...te-sergey-clarifying-points-on-twitter.93249/
"They mainly pay developers to finish financing ports or to assuage fears of the game not doing well on this new platform. The latter works like a minimum guarantee of sales."
But then again Galyonkin claimed daxy mistranslated things and then cleared it up by not actually pointing out any mistranslation and just confirmed things that were posted.
I can't even get Sims 4 free on fucking Origin. After all the Access shit my only option is to gift it to someone free.
It is not a sales advance. It is a sales guarantee, which means it is only triggered for the discrepancy between the actual sales and guaranteed sales.
In practice, it sounds more or less like the same, except that:
According to this other site:
There are more quotes in this Reddit thread:
In practice, it sounds more or less like the same, except that:
- if the actual sales are low, Epic cannot sell the games for cheap G2A-style, because they have not bought the games. The devs can still control the price which their games are sold at.
- offering $10 to the customer (so that the customer purchases a copy and gives these $10 back to the dev) is the only way for Epic to transform this minimum guarantee into more copies of the games: rather than giving revenue to the dev, they give revenue to the customer who gives revenue to the dev ; for Epic, nothing changes, for the dev, the revenue is the same, but there are more copies of the game in customers' home.
According to this other site:
There are more quotes in this Reddit thread:
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There's also been problems with getting it for people who did never subscribe to Access. Did you try getting to it through wishlist? (There's apparently a dedicated link somewhere on the page that does work, but I used the wishlist.)
I couldn't get it to work on the client itself, but it went ok when I did it on the website. I've never been subbed to EA Access.
This confirms that it is revenue guarantee rather than bulk purchases of the games. This means that, from Epic's perspective, the $10 given to the customers would have been given anyway (assuming the sales are low). It does not matter whether one buys a game or not, the money which they offer would have gone to the dev in the end. The main difference is that more copies of the games are in customer's homes.
Edit: Hmmm... And some money goes to Epic... And some money goes to the dev, which increases the dev revenue, and that is less money that Epic would have to pay. I am lost.
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Epic gives the dev what they would be getting for a full purchase of the first X copies to get the game in the store. As they give them the money they would get in the store, they give them the 88%. The dev will not get any extra money until those "bought" copies are sold in the store (but as it is an upfront payment, it is more valuable for the dev).
During the sale, Epic pays for the 10$ cut, so they still give the devs the same money as they would in the original price. (So in a game that is originally 20$, they give the devs 17.6$ even when the user only paid 10$). In case that it is a game that hasnt sold the expected amount, it just means one less game in the tab.
Is this announced for PC yet? Absolutely loved that first game.
Despite people's warnings I tried Dauntless. Yeah it's really barebones, and even worse the queues are terrible. You might be waiting in town with nothing to do for 10 minutes and sometimes it just dumps you out of the queue without warning. You even have to wait that long if you're playing alone. It's ridiculous.
It's the safety window for the 20% coupon (most regions restrict pre-order and "new" games, which means +3 months after release date).
Waiting 6 months, you could get the $120 ultimate edition of Odyssey for $31. Not only is the game massively improved from release, waiting a bit and you only pay a quarter the price.
Yeah.
Amusing that they don't show any loot. Unless it's an entirely different genre, trailer is bullshit. Game also looks just as visually uninspired as the first one.
Let suposse that Epic guarantee 100 sales at U$S 20 and the game doesn´t sell anything, Epic loose U$S 2.000.
Now they give a U$S 10 discount and sells 50 copies, they loose U$S 1.500 (10x50 + 20x50).
Sorry for my english, I can read it well but no so much writing.
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For sure. I've said it before, but games are never less complete or more expensive than the day of release. Every day after that sees a drop in price and an increase in quality (with maybe a handful of exceptions at best).
The main thing you're missing out on is talking about the game with others, getting into the zeitgeist. Which for some is a big part of the appeal, an understandable part even.
Friends get the game together months after release.
Friends dont let friends fall into the hype.
Friends play CK2 together whenever a new game launch.
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