I really doubt that. I think they're planning on releasing as many games as they can, the question right now is simply in what order.I would think their intention would be to keep their PS5 games only on PS5, at least for the next few years.
I really doubt that. I think they're planning on releasing as many games as they can, the question right now is simply in what order.I would think their intention would be to keep their PS5 games only on PS5, at least for the next few years.
it was listed in the GeForce DB leak so pretty likelyso Returnal is actually fantastic, which kinda makes the whole "lol a roguelike for full triple A price" narrative back when it launched (one, I admit, I was part of to be frank) seem extra silly now.
Housemarque doesnt miss do they? this should come to PC eventually right?
Still waiting on Resogun and Alienation on PC.so Returnal is actually fantastic, which kinda makes the whole "lol a roguelike for full triple A price" narrative back when it launched (one, I admit, I was part of to be frank) seem extra silly now.
Housemarque doesnt miss do they? this should come to PC eventually right?
I think they are trying to release as many PS4 games as they can. With the intention to drive people to the PS5 to play new games in those series.I really doubt that. I think they're planning on releasing as many games as they can, the question right now is simply in what order.
Yeah, at the moment I do think that's the plan since that's where the bulk of their modern titles are, but it's not the long term strategy they've outlined to their investors; which is reaching new markets and regions (such as China, Russia, India) they currently can't with their consoles.I think they are trying to release as many PS4 games as they can. With the intention to drive people to the PS5 to play new games in those series.
put this in my wishlist after playing the demo and have been looking forward to the release. it released today! demo is still available and i highly recommend it if your into these types of games.
Myself, my friends, and my cousins have zero intentions or desire of buying a PS5. We are sick of consoles and what they offer. So if they don't put the games on Steam, then that's PlayStation's loss. We aren't buying a PS5 to play Horizon Forbidden West despite getting Horizon Zero Dawn on Steam.I think they are trying to release as many PS4 games as they can. With the intention to drive people to the PS5 to play new games in those series.
I think they are trying to release as many PS4 games as they can. With the intention to drive people to the PS5 to play new games in those series.
Rewarding people for waiting won't make them go out to buy PS5s
I'm guessing their long term strategy is to keep interest in their IPs outside of their console. By investing in PC Ports, TV shows etc.. it builds interesting in them and will inevitably drive people to buy a PS5 if it's the only place you can get the new game when everyone else is getting it.Yeah, at the moment I do think that's the plan since that's where the bulk of their modern titles are, but it's not the long term strategy they've outlined to their investors; which is reaching new markets and regions (such as China, Russia, India) they currently can't with their consoles.
But even besides that, how many are realistically switching platforms because they played Demon's Souls or Returnal on PC? Wouldn't they simply continue to play those games on PC since the expectation is that they will arrive sooner or later?
Myself, my friends, and my cousins have zero intentions or desire of buying a PS5. We are sick of consoles and what they offer. So if they don't put the games on Steam, then that's PlayStation's loss. We aren't buying a PS5 to play Horizon Forbidden West despite getting Horizon Zero Dawn on Steam.
I personally thought about getting one to play a couple exclusives but honestly, I can live without it. Sure I'll have a little fomo but meh, I'll get over it. The massive amount of amazing PC games continuously coming and all the amazing benefits GREATLY outweighs the handful of games I can't play.
Playstation want to make their games as as popular and talked about like TV shows, movies and music (look at how Squid Games took over the world). That's not happening just releasing games on a $500 with games costing $70. Plus, nobody can get a PS5 atm, how are they supposed to turn profit when most of their own fan base who only play consoles can't get a PS5 atm?
I agree with Lashley on this. It's principally the opposite of this.
Lots of PC players (myself included) are perfectly content to skip and never play these PS games rather than buy a console, because they simply prefer playing games via PC with the various options, features, services etc they prefer, and/or can't justify the price for a system that would otherwise have so little or no use.
I'm fairly sure Sony know this anyway, and that's part of the impetus for doing it as their competitor is doing - "meeting customers where they are", as that PC market keeps growing without ill-effect to their console business.
The moment they put HZD on PC, it was practically reaffirming all this for those players. I'm now even less likely to get a PS console, as I simply expect the games will eventually be on PC whenever that may be. It's nice if the games show up on PC so I can at least consider them, but if they don't, it changes nothing and they simply don't have any attention. From the friends I play with, I know we all think pretty much the same on this. This forum is a bit of an echo chamber in that regard, as people roll themselves up into a frenzy over these "first party" games and assume everyone else is similarly into them to such a wild extent.
If the rumor of Horizon: Forbidden West is gonna be released to PC earlier (let's say 1 year after the PS5 release), then Sony is probably gathering data and information about the effect it has on the game's sales by comparing it with Horizon: Zero Dawn's sales in a certain time range. If releasing the game on PC doesn't hurt its sales on PS5 and they could actually get significantly more copies sold in total by porting it to PC, we may get more PS5 games released on PC earlier (like 1 year after release). If the result is in favor of Sony, I expect it to expand its ecosystem by creating its own PC client so they don't have to pay fees to third-party stores and implement a feature similar to Xbox Play Anywhere to attract PC + PS owners.I'm guessing their long term strategy is to keep interest in their IPs outside of their console. By investing in PC Ports, TV shows etc.. it builds interesting in them and will inevitably drive people to buy a PS5 if it's the only place you can get the new game when everyone else is getting it.
There is no guarantee that any of their games will come to PC so I don't think there can be an expectation they will come, I would think the expectation should be they won't come. As much as I'd prefer if they all did.
Enough people will buy a PS5 though.
After playing Horizon, the Uncharted games and whatever else they are planning on porting, it will nibble on those customers to play it day one.
End of fiscal year they sold 10 million PS5's with that number forecast to go up to and beyond 22 million over the next. A lot of people have PS5s.
They will make their IP more popular by investing in other types of media like TV shows and movies based on their IP. I wouldn't saw Squid Game took over the world, it's good and quite popular but will most likely be forgotten about in a few months when what ever new thing comes out like Game of Throne and Tiger King before it.
If you're buying the games they release on PC they will be content with the extra money they are getting out of their older games but Sony have no intention of watering down their image of a premium console with timely releases on PC. They are spending a lot of time trying to make the PS5 appear as premium product worth the money. Expensive console with expensive games. I don't think they actually really care if you convert and buy a PS5 after buying one of their releases on PC, you've still given them money, it's just their intention to convince you it's worth it.
I hope it does work out for them. It would be great if they could get some exclusive PlayStation games on PC. I only wish Nintendo would do the same thing, but that will never happen.If the rumor of Horizon: Forbidden West is gonna be released to PC earlier (let's say 1 year after the PS5 release), then Sony is probably gathering data and information about the effect it has on the game's sales by comparing it with Horizon: Zero Dawn's sales in a certain time range. If releasing the game on PC doesn't hurt its sales on PS5 and they could actually get significantly more copies sold in total by porting it to PC, we may get more PS5 games released on PC earlier (like 1 year after release). If the result is in favor of Sony, I expect it to expand its ecosystem by creating its own PC client so they don't have to pay fees to third-party stores and implement a feature similar to Xbox Play Anywhere to attract PC + PS owners.
This hypothesis obviously has many flaws, but it's interesting nevertheless to see how things play out for Sony. This is after all an uncharted market for them.
If you're buying the games they release on PC they will be content with the extra money they are getting out of their older games but Sony have no intention of watering down their image of a premium console with timely releases on PC. They are spending a lot of time trying to make the PS5 appear as premium product worth the money. Expensive console with expensive games. I don't think they actually really care if you convert and buy a PS5 after buying one of their releases on PC, you've still given them money, it's just their intention to convince you it's worth it.
Any tips for increasing text size in games? I really find myself squinting trying to read text in the Avengers game.
That's easily offset by the extra reach they'll gain by being another platform. Also more likely to sell more games to that particular customer since they're now offering games on their preferred platform.
I doubt Sony has much incentive for timely PC releases because for those who do have a PC + PS5, or maybe will have, better to take $60 from them on PSN than $42 on Steam. And it's another potential PS+ sub. Yeah maybe they're thinking about PS+ on PC too, but not in the short term surely, just not enough value there.
Bringing over legacy games and those say 2+ years old, that's free money though.
No, because the PC owner who doesn't have a PS5 will buy it anyway, whether it's day and date or two years later.That's easily offset by the extra reach they'll gain by being another platform. Also more likely to sell more games to that particular customer since they're now offering their games on their preferred platform.
Sony is doing fine. They had $3BN in operating income from the games division last year. Without looking too closely, I expect a lot of that is from PS+. Their first party games don't need to be profitable, so long as they keep driving console sales and annual PS+ subs. As I said, a two year old game coming to PC is free money for them, but a day and date release might cost them more profitable sales on their own storefront. A staggered release may even lead to more double dipping among those who own both platforms.There are plenty of practical incentives
Sony and every company worth it's salt needs more money.
Sony console only consumers aren't enough to fuel every studio as they want and pump each high amounts of talent with very deadline or sale expectations.
More consumers spending on their products is better.
Bringing it in two years with decent polish is better than me never getting it on pc or ps5. Some of pcs best performers are because they have gone in excess of support most console makers including sony are willing to do. Counter strike and Minecraft started out exceptionally small and look where they are now. GTA may shine on console but it bloomed on PC.
In markets where PS can't be penetrated easily, $42 is better than $0. And a good chunk of PC gamers don't want to buy consoles soI doubt Sony has much incentive for timely PC releases because for those who do have a PC + PS5, or maybe will have, better to take $60 from them on PSN than $42 on Steam. And it's another potential PS+ sub. Yeah maybe they're thinking about PS+ on PC too, but not in the short term surely, just not enough value there.
Bringing over legacy games and those say 2+ years old, that's free money though.
Edit: Oh, we're talking about different scenarios.No, because the PC owner who doesn't have a PS5 will buy it anyway, whether it's day and date or two years later.
It's not $0 though. The PC owner willing to buy the game if it releases the same time on console, is still likely to buy the game if it releases much later. Exhibit A and B and C being GTA, RDR2, HZD. And it may be more double dipping too.In markets where PS can't be penetrated easily, $42 is better than $0. And a good chunk of PC gamers don't want to buy consoles so
Sony is doing fine. They had $3BN in operating income from the games division last year. Without looking too closely, I expect a lot of that is from PS+. Their first party games don't need to be profitable, so long as they keep driving console sales and annual PS+ subs. As I said, a two year old game coming to PC is free money for them, but a day and date release might cost them more profitable sales on their own storefront. A staggered release may even lead to more double dipping among those who own both platforms.
No they wont, we have seen what happens with third party exclusives that do not launch day and date on PC nowadays: they underperform what hthey could have done. PC owners are as vulnerable to hype and FOMO as console owners, not being on day one on the platform means that FOMO / hype is gone. Right now Sony has the "oh they are actually doing it" hype so their old games end up selling, but in a couple of years that wont be enough to recover FOMO / hype.No, because the PC owner who doesn't have a PS5 will buy it anyway, whether it's day and date or two years later.
Shit. I've gotta get back into that too now that the PC port is significantly improved (I think?)All this talk of PlayStation games on PC reminds I've been putting off playing Horizon Zero Dawn until I built my new PC. I guess it's time to install it again.
Last like 5 times I've reported groups and people I always get the message that action was taken less than a day later and then I look again and they're gone.
Maybe I have a special power.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's all fixed up now.Shit. I've gotta get back into that too now that the PC port is significantly improved (I think?)
Now we need Zork as an FPS to balance out the universe
I don't wanna make a rip and tear jokeI saw it displayed on a pregnancy test once. That was pretty cool.
HUZZAH! One less group of full blown idiots less
For some reason, I missed the news that era is sold to another company.
How do I join meta council and the PC Gaming Era Discord? I've joined the latter years ago, but I'm unable to see other channels now somehow.
Outland is awesome. (Fuck the final boss, though.)
Wait, that was real? I thought that was all a joke?For some reason, I missed the news that era is sold to another company.
How do I join meta council and the PC Gaming Era Discord? I've joined the latter years ago, but I'm unable to see other channels now somehow.