PCVR Game Discussion Thread - A New Era of Gaming

zulux21 · Nov 26, 2019

Nabs said:
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As long as they don't try to stop custom songs I suppose I don't have a major issue with this even if I'm disappointed to see it.

In the grand scheme of things Facebook's reach and resources greatly outreach beat sabers so they could potentially set up lots of music contracts far faster to get a steady stream of DLC on all platforms.

On the flip side this means I won't be buying all the DLC just to support the company, I will be far more selective with what I get now.

Either way I already got beat saber on the PC as well in case I eventually can't put custom songs on the quest. There were some things I wanted to mess around once I got my new computer and the link working in general.

wafflebrain said:
Chronos, Lucky's Tale, Edge of Nowhere (Insomniac made game, $10 just today on Oculus store), the new GTA V mod, Elite: Dangerous, No Man's Sky, I Expect You to Die, Euro and American Truck Simulator games, Dirt Rally, SkyrimVR and Fallout 4 VR (with snap turning), Moss, Alien Isolation (Mother mod), Vivecraft (you can use m+kb in addition to motion controls for this).

That should get you started :)

Thumper isn't a bad VR addition either as while it uses a traditional controller the visuals still look neat in VR.

Deleted member 21003 · Nov 26, 2019

wafflebrain said:
Chronos, Lucky's Tale, Edge of Nowhere (Insomniac made game, $10 just today on Oculus store), the new GTA V mod, Elite: Dangerous, No Man's Sky, I Expect You to Die, Euro and American Truck Simulator games, Dirt Rally, SkyrimVR and Fallout 4 VR (with snap turning), Moss, Alien Isolation (Mother mod), Vivecraft (you can use m+kb in addition to motion controls for this).

That should get you started :)

Cool. Does Asgards Wrath require much space? It looks cool.

zulux21 · Nov 26, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Cool. Does Asgards Wrath require much space? It looks cool.

I believe Asgard's wrath is designed with room scale in mind. At least it looks that way in videos.

and in a different form of space you likely want 160gb free on an SSD to play it.

it alone is the main reason I added an extra 1tb m.2 ssd drive to my black friday list for my new computer lol.

Deleted member 21003 · Nov 26, 2019

zulux21 said:
I believe Asgard's wrath is designed with room scale in mind. At least it looks that way in videos.

and in a different form of space you likely want 160gb free on an SSD to play it.

it alone is the main reason I added an extra 1tb m.2 ssd drive to my black friday list for my new computer lol.

Oh.. thats a bummer.

zulux21 · Nov 26, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Oh.. thats a bummer.

I mean it might be possible to play it in a small amount of room. I haven't played it myself yet. It's just combat looks like it should be moving and swing around which isn't great for small areas.

Deleted member 21003 · Nov 27, 2019

Hm, the store page for Asgard's Wrath says you can play it sitting. I guess I'll give it a shot.
Edit:

Yeah this works fine.

Peter Ian Staker · Nov 27, 2019

Between HL:A's announcement and long wanting something better than a PSVR with hacks for my sim racing rig I decided to order a Rift S.
Any good VR Only games I should check out?

Vash63 · Nov 27, 2019

Peter Ian Staker said:
Between HL:A's announcement and long wanting something better than a PSVR with hacks for my sim racing rig I decided to order a Rift S.
Any good VR Only games I should check out?

Hotdogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades (H3VR), To the Top, Pavlov, Superhot VR (not the same as the flat one) and Pistol Whip are all really good.

flyinj · Nov 27, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Alright, so I gave my friend's Rift S a try and it didn't give me crippling headaches so I bought one and it showed up.
I've got the minimum space required for it so I can't play any roomscale stuff. What good things can I play that I can sit down or don't require me to move around much?

Stormland and Asgard's Wrath are both phenominal as well.

flyinj · Nov 27, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Alright, so I gave my friend's Rift S a try and it didn't give me crippling headaches so I bought one and it showed up.
I've got the minimum space required for it so I can't play any roomscale stuff. What good things can I play that I can sit down or don't require me to move around much?

Oh immediately get Google Earth VR on Steam. It is free and it will blow your mind.

Obi · Nov 27, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Alright, so I gave my friend's Rift S a try and it didn't give me crippling headaches so I bought one and it showed up.
I've got the minimum space required for it so I can't play any roomscale stuff. What good things can I play that I can sit down or don't require me to move around much?

Check out Aircar on Steam. You pilot an aircar around a future Blade Runner-ish city. It's a neat free little experience. I wish it had been made into a full game.

Aircar on Steam

A simple immersive flying game built for VR. Pilot an aircar through a futuristic cityscape.

store.steampowered.com

I Don't Like · Nov 27, 2019

So I've had the VIVE Pro for a while and thinking of switching to the Pro Eye or Index. What blows my mind is I simply can't find any hands on, actual comparisons. It's all just specs bullshit. Wtf? How is this possible? Nobody in the world has taken an Index and Pro and Pro Eye and done a comparison, ever???

I KILL PXLS · Nov 27, 2019

PlayALLTheGames said:
So I've had the VIVE Pro for a while and thinking of switching to the Pro Eye or Index. What blows my mind is I simply can't find any hands on, actual comparisons. It's all just specs bullshit. Wtf? How is this possible? Nobody in the world has taken an Index and Pro and Pro Eye and done a comparison, ever???

I think the only difference between the Vive Pro and Pro Eye is the eye tracking. Between those and the Index, I think it's mostly just that the screen door effect is lessened on the Index even though they're pretty much the same resolution. Honestly, if you have a Vive Pro, I'd stick with that and just get the Index controllers. The difference between the headsets isn't big enough for the hassle. That and you'd still have access to the wireless adapter which is a bigger game changer imo.

I Don't Like · Nov 27, 2019

I KILL PXLS said:
I think the only difference between the Vive Pro and Pro Eye is the eye tracking. Between those and the Index, I think it's mostly just that the screen door effect is lessened on the Index even though they're pretty much the same resolution. Honestly, if you have a Vive Pro, I'd stick with that and just get the Index controllers. The difference between the headsets isn't big enough for the hassle. That and you'd still have access to the wireless adapter which is a bigger game changer imo.

Yeah I'm more interested in index vs pro and/or eye but I would like to know how much the experience changes with eye tracking when it's pro vs eye and there's nothing.

Could change controllers but honestly half the shit I play I'm using my dual shock 4 because it's racing/flying so it's not as big of a draw for me.

Maybe I'll just wait for the next flagship set from whomever. I want higher res. than pro/index and eye tracking in one set.

HylianSeven · Nov 27, 2019

Found out the Micro Center about 2.5 hours away had 2 of the Vive Deluxe Audio Strap left. My plan was to watch the stock and if it didn't go down, wait until the next time we visit the in-laws. It went down to 1 in stock the morning, so I already my father in law for a favor and he picked it up.

I KILL PXLS · Nov 27, 2019

PlayALLTheGames said:
Yeah I'm more interested in index vs pro and/or eye but I would like to know how much the experience changes with eye tracking when it's pro vs eye and there's nothing.

Could change controllers but honestly half the shit I play I'm using my dual shock 4 because it's racing/flying so it's not as big of a draw for me.

Maybe I'll just wait for the next flagship set from whomever. I want higher res. than pro/index and eye tracking in one set.

Right now, I don't think eye tracking is going to change your experience at all since no one is implementing it yet outside of the social stuff like VRChat (if that). I wouldn't expect that to change until we hit a gen where it's either the standard, or games start taking advantage of foveated rendering.

Uncle Sensei · Nov 27, 2019

How much content is in Pistol Whip? Worth the 25 bucks?

PanzerKraken · Nov 27, 2019

Uncle Sensei said:
How much content is in Pistol Whip? Worth the 25 bucks?

Game is tons of fun, not a ton of levels/songs though. Different difficulty settings and modifiers keep it fresh and it is kinda hard once you learn how scoring works, but did wish it had more levels available. I think its been worth it at the price really for how much I've played

I KILL PXLS · Nov 27, 2019

Apparently UploadVR had a Holiday showcase with a bunch of new news.

Summary of PCVR specific stuff:

Pistol Whip is getting a new free level inspired by Oldboy on December 19th. New modes, modifiers, difficulties, and achievements coming. (@ 15:54)
Down the Rabbit Hole reveal. First and third person adventure game set in the world of Alice in Wonderland. (@ 18:00)
Daydream only game Eclipse Edge of Light is coming to PCVR. (19:57)
After the Fall development update with gameplay footage. (20:41)
new Spaceteam VR gameplay. (@ 25:05)
New LOW-FI gameplay footage. (@ 25:38)
Crunch Element trailer (@ 29:20)
Phantom Covert Ops debut PC gameplay footage (@ 33:55)
Sentenced reveal. Inspired by Papers Please (@ 35:44)
VCoder Hero reveal trailer (@ 39:33)
Hot dogs, Horseshoes, & Hand Grenades gun hat update (@ 40:23)
The Curious Tale of the Stolen Pets Holiday gifts update (@ 42:54)
Pixel Ripped 1995 development update and gameplay footage (@ 43:36)
New Budget Cuts 2 gameplay trailer (@ 46:29)
Theta Legion VR gameplay (@ 48:28)
Look at Vive Cosmos external tracking mod for Lighthouse tracking (@ 49:37)
Behind the scenes look at Solaris, the new arena shooter from the Firewall Zero devs (@ 51:45)

kami_sama · Nov 28, 2019

I KILL PXLS said:
Apparently UploadVR had a Holiday showcase with a bunch of new news.

Oh cool, will watch it once I get home.

Peter Ian Staker · Nov 28, 2019

Vash63 said:
Hotdogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades (H3VR), To the Top, Pavlov, Superhot VR (not the same as the flat one) and Pistol Whip are all really good.

flyinj said:
Stormland and Asgard's Wrath are both phenominal as well.

Thank you!!!

Andi · Nov 28, 2019

Been playing Trover Saves The Universe, Moss in VR and also Pokemon Sword.... and this got me thinking.
Is there a Monster Training/Battle Game in VR yet?
I imaging standing in an Arena to battle , seeing your monster in front of you, giving commands to it. Throwing health potions to it or Items and stuff.
Groom, pet and Train it outside of Battles. Catching new monsters with a net or something, make traps for them, or through battle.
Could be really cool I think.

In other news: Bought BOX VR yesterday and loving it. It's definitely more taxing to play than Beat Saber for me.
Also bought Windlands 2, just played it for a bit. I like the traversal but the Bow bugged out on me yesterday.
Might buy Red Matter if it goes below 15eur, seems interesting.

kami_sama · Nov 28, 2019

Does anyone have recommendations for games that are currently on sale?
Btw, gonna ask this again. Any fix for being extremely short on SkyrimVR?

Deleted member 21003 · Nov 28, 2019

I punched my ceiling fan while playing Beat Saber. Ow.
Can anyone tell me how much room I'd really need for Pistol Whip? It pops up this whenever I click on it on the oculus store.

kami_sama · Nov 28, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
I punched my ceiling fan while playing Beat Saber. Ow.

I've had it happen before. Thankfully I didn't break anything, but the mark in the wall is there to be seen.
You could try removing some height, so notes will be lower.

Paganmoon · Nov 28, 2019

kami_sama said:
Does anyone have recommendations for games that are currently on sale?
Btw, gonna ask this again. Any fix for being extremely short on SkyrimVR?

I believe there's a slider in game for fixing your height. Also if you want to change it even more than the slider in-game allows go to your SkyrimPrefs.ini and change fCharacterHeightOffset= to something higher.

You should be able to change your height within OpenVR Advanced settings as well, though I haven't used that myself.

Beer Monkey · Nov 28, 2019

Hi.

How is Zaccaria pinball in VR?

Asking for my Quest.

kami_sama · Nov 28, 2019

Paganmoon said:
I believe there's a slider in game for fixing your height. Also if you want to change it even more than the slider in-game allows go to your SkyrimPrefs.ini and change fCharacterHeightOffset= to something higher.

You should be able to change your height within OpenVR Advanced settings as well, though I haven't used that myself.

Mmm, do you know where exactly it is? I tried looking in the VR settings and didn't find anything. I will look more carefully next time.

Paganmoon · Nov 28, 2019

kami_sama said:
Mmm, do you know where exactly it is? I tried looking in the VR settings and didn't find anything. I will look more carefully next time.

Should be under VR settings iirc. You sure you scrolled down when in the settings menu? I'll see if I can boot the game up and take a screenshot later if you haven't found it by then.

I KILL PXLS · Nov 28, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
Can anyone tell me how much room I'd really need for Pistol Whip? It pops up this whenever I click on it on the oculus store.

If you have enough room for Beat Saber, you have more than enough room for Pistol Whip.

Willin · Nov 28, 2019

Amazon Australia really bringing the heat.

Deleted member 21003 · Nov 28, 2019

Willin said:
Amazon Australia really bringing the heat.

And here I was being concerned about ordering mine on Sunday.

Vash63 · Nov 28, 2019

bonkasaurus said:
I punched my ceiling fan while playing Beat Saber. Ow.
Can anyone tell me how much room I'd really need for Pistol Whip? It pops up this whenever I click on it on the oculus store.

You don't need to move forwards or backwards at all in Pistol Whip, but you do need a pretty decent side step for dodging. I'd say about 2 meters diameter.

Comrade Crunch · Nov 28, 2019

I'm gonna be getting a headset soon, if I'm not fussed about price, is the Index my best choice? I've been doing research, but few things are more valuable than actual impressions from others.

Potterson · Nov 28, 2019

Okay.

Holy crap, I had a smile on my face through the whole introductory Oculus room/minigame experience with little robot. I believe I'll have much fun in VR :D I'm so freaking excited. I was worried but Rift S feels amazing. I have ZERO dizziness problems that I sometimes got on PSVR or Rift CV1. That's a relief :)

For 350 euro, I feel it's a steal. I'm glad I didn't go for Index. I'll get some "VR experience" and I'll upgrade in 2 years maybe to something more high-end.

kami_sama · Nov 28, 2019

Comrade Crunch said:
I'm gonna be getting a headset soon, if I'm not fussed about price, is the Index my best choice? I've been doing research, but few things are more valuable than actual impressions from others.

I will tell you tomorrow lol
I currently have a lenovo explorer. WMR is one of the easiest headsets to setup, it uses cameras, so you only need the headset and the controllers. Resolution wise it's pretty good, but confort is meh at best. Controllers are not very good, the tracking is lacking, and if you need to use the grip button a lot, it ends up hurting.
But, it was 200€. Can't complain for that price.
I will receive the Index tomorrow, and will update my impressions then.

Vash63 · Nov 28, 2019

Comrade Crunch said:
I'm gonna be getting a headset soon, if I'm not fussed about price, is the Index my best choice? I've been doing research, but few things are more valuable than actual impressions from others.

It's definitely the top of the line option. Most comfortable, widest field of view with the focus working edge to edge, best audio and best tracking. The only downside is you need 2 power outlets and a good spot to set the lighthouses.

kami_sama · Nov 28, 2019

Vash63 said:
It's definitely the top of the line option. Most comfortable, widest field of view with the focus working edge to edge, best audio and best tracking. The only downside is you need 2 power outlets and a good spot to set the lighthouses.

Three*
You need two for the lighthouses and one for the headset.

1-D_FE · Nov 28, 2019

Beer Monkey said:
Hi.

How is Zaccaria pinball in VR?

Asking for my Quest.

When I tried it on my Vive, I thought it was a perfectly functional implementation. I really disliked the tables, so I refunded it. But if you like the tables, I'd have no problems recommending it. I would have killed for Farsight and Zen Studios to have incorporated identical VR DLC into their games.

WhatAboutRaven said:
Jumping back into VR since a bit and need some advice on the settings both in Nvida's Control Panel and SteamVR.
Specs:
i7 8086 OC'd to 4.8GHz
1080ti
32 GB DDR4

Index Headset (Also got a Vive Pro)

Nvidia's Control Panel:
Any settings to change to something else other than default?
(besides changing Power Management to Maximum Performance?)

SteamVR:
Applications> I have Custom Resolution set to default 100%
Video>I got refresh rate to 120hz
Motion Smoothing is off

I have FPSVR installed and uninstalled OpenVRAdvanced Settings back earlier in the year since it kept breaking and being weird, I know they just updated it again like this past week, but is there really a reason to have it installed when I already have FPSVR?
I know every system is going to preform a bit differently, but I just want to get some settings down and it feels like there is no concret info on some major settings that should or should not be enabled.

No one really answered you, but it's essentially a juggling act. I imagine you're going to struggle @120hz in a lot of games on a 1080ti. So for some, you'll probably want to lower it to 90hz.

Custom resolution set to a default 100% is how I like it. Then I go to advanced settings and override on a per game basis. Ideally, you want to render each game as high as your GPU allows (without any reprojection kicking in). It requires experimentation if you're trying to get the absolute best IQ out of your system.

Letters · Nov 28, 2019

Pennyfish said:
https://store.steampowered.com/widget/887260

Why is Valve hiding from search this apparently great tech demo for the index controllers they themselves published? Had to come across it in a random reddit comment and then did a search here to find your post.

Stuff like this, The Lab and Aperture Hand Labs is what I'm most excited for when my kit arrives (my first ever VR).

PanzerKraken · Nov 28, 2019

Uncle Sensei said:
How much content is in Pistol Whip? Worth the 25 bucks?

And they just announced yesterday that a new level/scene is being added to the game in about a week along with the games first free content update. Also they are gonna keep adding more levels and game modifiers over time.

bonkasaurus said:
I punched my ceiling fan while playing Beat Saber. Ow.
Can anyone tell me how much room I'd really need for Pistol Whip? It pops up this whenever I click on it on the oculus store.

You will be dodging to the left and right mainly and ducking. Best to have some movement space to the right and left and some minor arm movements, though it's not as wild movement as beat saber.

Paganmoon · Nov 28, 2019

Letters said:
Why is Valve hiding from search this apparently great tech demo for the index controllers they themselves published? Had to come across it in a random reddit comment and then did a search here to find your post.

Stuff like this, The Lab and Aperture Hand Labs is what I'm most excited for when my kit arrives (my first ever VR).

it's extremely barebones, so I can see why they're hiding it, Aperture hand laps is a much better demo for the index controllers.

Have been playing Moss a bit past few days, what an excellent little game. The way Quill sometimes ask for your attention to point the way, and the highfive when you do one of the (albeit easy) puzzles. Little details that really raise the enjoyment of the game.

Letters · Nov 28, 2019

Still a bit awkward that it is unlisted even if Aperture Labs is a wildly better demo. The more the merrier, and the devs that worked on it have feelings!

I wish there was a simple way to tell if a game has index finger tracking support on its Steam store page.

Paganmoon · Nov 28, 2019

Letters said:
I wish there was a simple way to tell if a game has index finger tracking support on its Steam store page.

You and me both, but until then, there's this google doc, might not be perfectly up to date though:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ffJ0Le4WlXiZwEQBkKye9p3M4/edit#gid=1533698533

Deleted member 21003 · Nov 28, 2019

Vash63 said:
You don't need to move forwards or backwards at all in Pistol Whip, but you do need a pretty decent side step for dodging. I'd say about 2 meters diameter.

PanzerKraken said:
And they just announced yesterday that a new level/scene is being added to the game in about a week along with the games first free content update. Also they are gonna keep adding more levels and game modifiers over time.

You will be dodging to the left and right mainly and ducking. Best to have some movement space to the right and left and some minor arm movements, though it's not as wild movement as beat saber.

Ah I see.

scitek · Nov 28, 2019

Just curious, is there a VR conversion for Half-Life 2 like Fully Possessed for Doom 3?

Ogni-XR21 · Nov 28, 2019

I just installed my Index. Coming from PSVR.

I'm shocked. Unfortunately not in a good way... I always heard of god rays but I never thought it would annoy me that much. I'm devasted right now. The headset is great quality, the tracking is great, the resolution is good, the sound of the lighthouses is drilling into my ears and always there due to the speakers not covering the ears.

I was so exited for this and currently thinking of returning the set. Does one get used to the god rays? At first I didn't even realize it was god rays, I honestly thought something was wrong with the lenses.

Paganmoon · Nov 28, 2019

Ogni-XR21 said:
the sound of the lighthouses is drilling into my ears and always there due to the speakers not covering the ears.

The lighthouses should be pretty darn quiet though.

Ogni-XR21 · Nov 28, 2019

Paganmoon said:
The lighthouses should be pretty darn quiet though.

They are not loud, but it's like inducing artificial tinnitus. I've struggled with tinnitus in the past, so maybe it's just something I'm sensible to now.

Paganmoon · Nov 28, 2019

Ogni-XR21 said:
They are not loud, but it's like inducing artificial tinnitus. I've struggled with tinnitus in the past, so maybe it's just something I'm sensible to now.

I've had the OG lighthouses since 2016, can't say I've ever really heard them... I might be getting old and losing hearing I suppose :)

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