I thought I was crazy trying to remember this. Let's see how this plays out.
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PD is trying to screw the players again... Gran Turismo 7 ups prices of "legendary" cars... as predicted.
- Thread starter CassiusClay99
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Not that I know of. AND this is the trap mate, they will up the most wanted cars...and MAYBE down the other ones...just to be able to say that it's balanced.
The only goal is to push MTX. There is no generosity or fun implied.
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Come on mate... don't tell me you don't see a pattern here.
The game grossly pushes you towards MTX... when you already payed it 80 bucks.
How can you defend that?
Yeah that's true, it would probably be best if they made it so that they're roughly equal
Agreed
Every time I think about buying this game, I remember the gross economy and microtransactions and move on. Despite what it may give you as incentives, the game looks predatory
The thing about these "fluctuating economies" stuff is that, who does it benefit? It doesn't benefit the players as the grind only increases and gets worse, whereas only the publisher, developer and car brands benefit.
If it was something like "These are new cars that will be hard to get" and kept all the other game pricing stuff the same (Or had some new, good race challenges to help things along) it would be a lot more reasonable for players to go through. The only reason they're going through with this now is because they have a captive audience, but that audience can go elsewhere very quickly if a competitor got enough interest and goodwill.
If it was something like "These are new cars that will be hard to get" and kept all the other game pricing stuff the same (Or had some new, good race challenges to help things along) it would be a lot more reasonable for players to go through. The only reason they're going through with this now is because they have a captive audience, but that audience can go elsewhere very quickly if a competitor got enough interest and goodwill.
I've mostly been playing the Cafe and Missions but will be moving onto car collection soon. Is the game about to become sour for me?
Depends on how many cars, especially the top of the line ones, you want. I got my Huracan and that was it for me, so it didn't get too sour.
I wouldn't actually mind the fluctuating prices if the net changes were roughly equal, I'm in the minority here but I think it's a pretty neat idea especially since most of the fluctuations are not a large difference, it would simulate an actual market and since GT is a hard core sim anyway it'd just add to that aspect
The 20x is from GT Sport to the current GT7 update
McLaren F1s are sold 20 millions+ in real life though.
When it first went on sale, years ago, it was around 800 000$ .. Realistic economy screws you I guess. 🤷
When it first went on sale, years ago, it was around 800 000$ .. Realistic economy screws you I guess. 🤷
Top of the line is such a weird phrase to use here. Top of the line cars are 450k-1mil. The 10+million credit floaty fuckbuckets from 1930-1960 don't warrant the words "top of the line" in any way but they're fun in their own right.
Ive played the game for many many hours and have hundreds of cards without ever thinking of an mtx and this 900k can be made in what, 40 minutes? It's very easy to get credits and cars now.
Also prices have gone down on cars, its the whole point of the Hagerty thing
It's unfortunate what they're doing to this game. I was waiting till a lot of things got ironed out in the game before I got it, but at this rate I might never pick it up.
But who really cares if some gamer pays 80 for a games then turn around and buy mtx on top of that?
It don't impact my pocket or yours and it certainly dont ruin the game. You have a coice you can take the easy way or you can actually play the game until you get the cars you want.
And this discussion only seem to come up when it comes to the F1, the most demanded car in the game, seems the economy is working as intended.
Welp, hate that my suspicions were right not to trust them backtracking on the backlash.
I was gonna say don't give them any ideas, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have this or something similar in the works.
Tying in-game prices to Hagerty valuations was always a bit silly, but for people saying we've known about this all along and it hasn't been a secret, this might just be the gap between knowing in the abstract that car prices in-game may be tied to real-world value and will fluctuate over time, and seeing that actually happen in practice.
I don't have the foggiest idea what the hell a Ferrari 250 GTO goes for in auction. I've never had to care before. I don't even know how often they sell--I assumed that limited-production vehicles probably don't come up for auction that often so why would the price change frequently. Now we're seeing that actually they DO seem to sell often enough that we're seeing changes to prices two months in, which is worse than what I expected. I suppose the obvious retort could be that I should've researched Hagerty auctions to know how often the cars come up for sale or something, but that seems a bit ridiculous of an ask to me.
I don't have the foggiest idea what the hell a Ferrari 250 GTO goes for in auction. I've never had to care before. I don't even know how often they sell--I assumed that limited-production vehicles probably don't come up for auction that often so why would the price change frequently. Now we're seeing that actually they DO seem to sell often enough that we're seeing changes to prices two months in, which is worse than what I expected. I suppose the obvious retort could be that I should've researched Hagerty auctions to know how often the cars come up for sale or something, but that seems a bit ridiculous of an ask to me.
So it just went from 18m to 19m? I thought they reversed the update they did in response to the mtx cost backlash.
I thought this was to be expected because of that Hagerty deal that reflects actual car prices on the market. Still a very stupid move but it wasn't random either.
Yeah I think it's only a 1m increase, that update was mostly about increasing payouts from rewards and daily rewards I think
can't stop laughing at this thread
yeah maybe having a "fluctuating real life economy" during a terrifying real world inflation may not be a good idea.
😂😂😂
yeah maybe having a "fluctuating real life economy" during a terrifying real world inflation may not be a good idea.
😂😂😂
I guess there's no surprise here then. They did say prices would fluctuate like this.
People really will defend anything, won't they? 'You can't complain that a staple feature of the series for years (selling cars) is eventually coming at some indeterminate date, after they removed it to push you toward paying for MTX, and even then, only after a massive backlash. God, you people are always outraged at something, aren't you? Never happy! I, for one, love paying more for less features and being gouged to shit on progression unless I'm willing to make playing the game a repetitive, grindy full time job.'
The live service concept sucks and makes for worse games. They're not built for fun progression, they're engineered to push those susceptible toward spending money to skip the grind and that affects everyone in the end, not just those who pay.
The excuses and apologies made for these shitty business practices are sad to see. There's no lows these companies can sink to that will ever be enough for some to actually sit up and demand better....in terms of games, and in terms of how they treat their employees too. I know one issue is way worse and more consequential than the other, just making a point that even the absolute worst behaviour from these companies sees too many people rushing to defend these corporations.
The live service concept sucks and makes for worse games. They're not built for fun progression, they're engineered to push those susceptible toward spending money to skip the grind and that affects everyone in the end, not just those who pay.
The excuses and apologies made for these shitty business practices are sad to see. There's no lows these companies can sink to that will ever be enough for some to actually sit up and demand better....in terms of games, and in terms of how they treat their employees too. I know one issue is way worse and more consequential than the other, just making a point that even the absolute worst behaviour from these companies sees too many people rushing to defend these corporations.
So glad I swapped this for Returnal.
Playing some Gran Turismo 4 and 6 after trading 7 showed me truly what a step down in terms of structure, content and singleplayer this game is.
It´s no longer a game, It's a storefront.
Playing some Gran Turismo 4 and 6 after trading 7 showed me truly what a step down in terms of structure, content and singleplayer this game is.
It´s no longer a game, It's a storefront.
I get the whole tying stuff into real world prices, and I don't actually have a huge problem with that. I do wish you got credits faster though. I play these games to drive cool fast cars I can't in real life, grinding like crazy for just one of them isn't really all that fun
Kaz actually had the idea of making a GT "service game" all the way back in 2006. Originally GT HD was meant to launch with only a few cars and tracks, and then you would purchase each new car/track with real money, that then would carry over to later GT games (presumably 5)
This idea was scrapped eventually, but its clear that Kaz had some interesting ideas for the game economy for a long time now
So glad I didn't support this at launch; feeling vindicated. Sony making all the wrong moves lately.
Just a couple of things:PD had a huge backlash after lowering prizes in the game in patch 1.07...
So they corrected in 1.08 and made a U-turn...explaining this was a misundertanding...and never wanted to screw its fans... blablabla...
But now, with update 1.15 we can see where the franchise is heading with its "Hagerty" partnership and pricing policy: many legendary cars prices went up drastically... because why not?
The Mac Laren F1 went from 1 million in GTS to 18,5 millions in GT7...updated to 19,4 Millions today...
And this is just one example. More here.
The Hagerty's price increases post-1.15 update - 10,662,900 Cr. with info for all 62 Hagery's cars (4.08% increase)
Unless you've been under a rock since Wednesday night, you have heard about the 1.15 update. As part of that, PD will be adjusting the prices of various cars in the Legend Cars (Hagerty's) dealership beginning with each car's next appearance. In addition to the 9 cars that, prior to the...www.gtplanet.net
To me, the situation hasn't changed drastically from when the shitstorm happened. The whole game economy is still a complete rip off, pushing you towards MTX, still can't sell cars, still cars needing special invitations that have a date of expiration (to push for impulsive buy), the loot/lottery still giving you the worst prize 90% of the time,... and the money is still pretty hard to earn (implying a LOT of grinding to get enough to buy the better cars) Etc...
A 80€ game should never have these kinds of monetization and predatory tactics.
Sony and PD should never get a pass on this.
- prices were readjusted for GT7 because of the Hagerty partnership
- that partnership means prices of cars will rise and fall accordance to market conditions
I'm not saying it's fair or right for players but isn't this working as intended from launch?
For cheaper cars that can be bought at the regular dealership it is fine but if you are looking for cars that only show up occasionally in the used car lot or super premium rotations you will probably be in for a bad time.
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