And that prevents us from attempting to challenge the ones who are in safe districts how?
Some of the comments on the first page should tell you all you need to know. I like Nancy and she's being very strategic and the only adult in the room when her colleagues are working hard to make a Trump second term a reality. She's chipping at Trump piece by piece and most people just go on about screaming.
What's the polling among Democrats for medicare for all?
What's the polling among democrats on money in politics?
What's the polling among democrats on concentration camps?
The major reason that Democrat politicians skew right on such issues relative to constituents nationwide is corruption.
Nancy Pelosi reminds me of all those racist old white ladies I've met when visiting the US. She even went out to say "All Lives Matter" recently:
It hardly matters at this point. Her latest capitulation was so inept, so humiliating, and so self-emasculating that no tweet could do any more damage. She's just patting herself on the back for making matters worse, then turning around and blaming progressives. She's always done this -- stab progressives in the back, and then blame them.She's talking about house members, not the public, but that won't stop people from not reading the article.
No, the reason why the median Democrat is slightly to the right is because the average Congressional district is skewed to the right, thanks to the urban/rural divide, and then, many districts that Democrat's won in 2018 were gerrymandered to be for Republican's, and thus, were even more to the right of what should be the median district.
As for polling, giving Medicare for All to undocumented immigrant polls pretty terrible, and in addition, well many people who voted for Democrat's in 2018 don't like the conditions the kids are currently in, they don't like the comparison to concentration camps and they also don't think the way to fix the issue is simply just to let people free in the country. So yes, among the median voter, the polling on "should we put families in detention centers together while they wait for asylum" probably polls pretty damn high.
The Democratic Electorate on Twitter isn't the Democratic Electorate in Real Life, as Bernie's continued failure in the polls continues to show, there's a vast world of Democrat's out there outside of a few very Democratic House districts and incredibly white and middle class DSA meetings.
Also, as far as money in politics goes, most Democrats I know have the same opinion of people who are sending donation after donation of money to Bernie - the system needs to be reformed, but that's no reason to unilaterally disarm. I highly doubt if Bernie's somehow the nominee, he'll just take the paltry public financing amount and nothing more. He'll continue to be shilling for those $27 donations.
Moderates only use social issues as a shield when convinient.
When we have literal concentration camps with brown people dying and getting abused in our own soil they make excuses .
The hypocrisy is outstanding
Meanwhile AOC is doing actual real work that the meek nazi-collaborators are unwilling to do:
No, the reason why the median Democrat is slightly to the right is because the average Congressional district is skewed to the right, thanks to the urban/rural divide, and then, many districts that Democrat's won in 2018 were gerrymandered to be for Republican's, and thus, were even more to the right of what should be the median district.
As for polling, giving Medicare for All to undocumented immigrant polls pretty terrible, and in addition, well many people who voted for Democrat's in 2018 don't like the conditions the kids are currently in, they don't like the comparison to concentration camps and they also don't think the way to fix the issue is simply just to let people free in the country. So yes, among the median voter, the polling on "should we put families in detention centers together while they wait for asylum" probably polls pretty damn high.
The Democratic Electorate on Twitter isn't the Democratic Electorate in Real Life, as Bernie's continued failure in the polls continues to show, there's a vast world of Democrat's out there outside of a few very Democratic House districts and incredibly white and middle class DSA meetings.
Also, as far as money in politics goes, most Democrats I know have the same opinion of people who are sending donation after donation of money to Bernie - the system needs to be reformed, but that's no reason to unilaterally disarm. I highly doubt if Bernie's somehow the nominee, he'll just take the paltry public financing amount and nothing more. He'll continue to be shilling for those $27 donations.
Interesting? More like transparent as fuck.Interesting how Pelosi considers centrist dems untouchable, but is perfectly fine throwing Ilhan Omar under the bus and publicly bashing AOC and other progressive dems
Interesting how Pelosi considers centrist dems untouchable, but is perfectly fine throwing Ilhan Omar under the bus and publicly bashing AOC and other progressive dems
Which would lead people to the reasonable conclusion that she isn't as progressive as people here like to pushespecially since, as has been widely noted, the Josh Gottheimers of the world have objectively been more of an obstacle to her leadership and ability to pass legislation. But she's okay with letting them dictate the priorities of the entire caucus, evidently
There's no evidence to support the bolded. Its what yourself and others wish to believe based on treating politics like fandom/stan culture.Some of the comments on the first page should tell you all you need to know. I like Nancy and she's being very strategic and the only adult in the room when her colleagues are working hard to make a Trump second term a reality. She's chipping at Trump piece by piece and most people just go on about screaming.
It's pretty difficult to look at where things are in this country and not get the general impression that ultimately the Dems and GOP want the same thing; as small of a voting base as possible.This is a pretty good understanding of politics as they are, and the vast majority of Leftists do not deny any of this. Where it fails is that most Leftists wish to take the gamble of flaking off the loosely-attached center-right moderates and trying to activate the 50+% of the country that DOESN'T vote by making politics look less like a minor rearrangement of furniture and genuinely offering a transformative path forward.
The acceptance of non-voters as forever non-voting is, I think, one of the more frustrating and probably insuperable divides.
Which would lead people to the reasonable conclusion that she isn't as progressive as people here like to push
Meanwhile AOC is doing actual real work that the meek nazi-collaborators are unwilling to do:
Short answer: Yes. Longer answer: Absolutely.I wonder if Pelosi would be acting different if the freshman 4 were white men instead of POC.
She would have a closed door meeting and ask them why do they care about "these people" again? Then she will scold them for having idealistic hippy parents.I wonder if Pelosi would be acting different if the freshman 4 were white men instead of POC.
ItS aLl PaRt Of ThE pLaN.Remember in the early days of the term when people assured us Pelosi and the progressives were working in tandem?
lmao
Closed door meetings.
4th dimensional Chess the voters can't comprehend.
Everything covered in mystery.
Every move needs to be explained by Stan's.
"Strategic masterminds"
etc etc.
Dems will lose against Trump again. People want transparent politicians. Note some wannabe art of war bullshit.
This is Beltway Brain. A totally pervasive, consuming cynicism. Oh, you thought we had rule of law? Actually, we have gamed out political scenarios and a blasé attitude toward right and wrong. People read takes like this and come away feeling despair. DC elites thrive on despair.
Oof. Can't help but think that the implication of AOC's latest comment about Pelosi seemingly only targeting WOC is not going to end well for her. Nancy is now forced to respond, and will likely ask, "Do you think I'm a racist?" which will have AOC backpedaling immediately. All kind of disingenuous people, republicans especially, will rally to Nancy's defense.
Yes, Pelosi was caught being a 'do as I say, not as I do' hypocrite, but how long is this spat going to go on? Who does this serve?
Those districts are very likely blue because of the positions they take. Go to far to the left in some areas and you open the door for a republican to sneak in. Not all blue districts are equal. A NYC blue district is going to be different, sometimes very different from a solid Ohio blue district for example. That non-NYC district could easily go red if certain things happen.And that prevents us from attempting to challenge the ones who are in safe districts how?
Those districts are very likely blue because of the positions they take. Go to far to the left in some areas and you open the door for a republican to sneak in. Not all blue districts are equal. A NYC blue district is going to be different, sometimes very different from a solid Ohio blue district for example. That non-NYC district could easily go red if certain things happen.
Those districts are very likely blue because of the positions they take. Go to far to the left in some areas and you open the door for a republican to sneak in. Not all blue districts are equal. A NYC blue district is going to be different, sometimes very different from a solid Ohio blue district for example. That non-NYC district could easily go red if certain things happen.
I thought these were "safe districts"? Unless you're saying with a straight face that people in California will vote for Republican if a candidate is too far left?
Maybe depending where you are in Cali and the republican running and how they compare with the Dem. There are red districts in California. Fewer and fewer I believe but they are there. I believe they didn't all turn blue because all the Dems were really far left either.I thought these were "safe districts"? Unless you're saying with a straight face that people in California will vote for Republican if a candidate is too far left?
Maybe depending where you are in Cali and the republican running and how they compare with the Dem. There are red districts in California. Fewer and fewer I believe but they are there. I believe they didn't all turn blue because all the Dems were really far left either.
Well we're quickly arriving at the point where anyone under the age of forty has no idea of what it was like to exist in an America that isn't a post-Reagan-era conservative dystopia. I was really young myself when Carter was president so I haven't a clue as to what he and the Democrats did to scar the country to point that liberalism is like cannibalism and incest rolled into one. Maybe it's best that we never know.I can't believe what I'm reading. The threat and power of Republicans are apparently so powerful than any and all districts must kotow exclusively to them to the detriment to their own party because apparently the democratic ideals are so purely despised that any attempt to go there will result in democrats running to the republicans.
The US is so fundamentally far-right that the Republicans are nazis and the Democrats are conservatives. I don't know how people can support the Democrats the way they are.
Meanwhile AOC is doing actual real work that the meek nazi-collaborators are unwilling to do:
Politics isn't "every other line of work", though. Transparency & arguing about policies is a key factor of a functional democracy. If some centrist democrats are siding with republicans on child concentration camps, that should be brought up & criticized publicly.She's also not saying don't criticize. Shes saying dont blast your colleagues on twitter.... which is pretty standard protocol for professionals in pretty much every other line of work.