Valkyrie Drive: Bhikkhuni didn't get a rating from the USK for some reason.
edit: oh yeah and Criminal Girls 2 too. So instead of violence they now ban waifus.
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People need to stop thinking that the UK market represents Europe
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edit: oh yeah and Criminal Girls 2 too. So instead of violence they now ban waifus.
I never thought Giana Sisters was bigger than Mario there, but the idea of that is pretty funny. Maybe I'll just pretend that's the case.
The Amiga probably maintained a decent foothold in Germany, considering that Escom bought the brand back in 1995.
Europe as a whole had a great relationship with home computers in the 80s, before the NES even launched. As already mentioned, Great Giana Sisters is from a German developer (Time Warp) and was published by a German software house (Rainbow Arts). Ubi Soft (as it was) got their start publishing computer games in the French market. Their first game, Zombi, was developed for the Amstrad CPC - France's biggest selling home computer at one point. Spain also had a large market with a number of notable developers, including Dinamic and Opera Soft.
You mean Belgium is the capital of Europe*!
I remember saying that angered some people during a cultural exchange program saying otherwise for some reason.
* Brussels is considered the de-facto administrative capital of the European Union
On Resetera at least, in the PAL charts thread there are a lot of different sources.
Yes some are limited. Like the SELL (based on GFK) only gives the top 5 for France, plus the top 3 for each console.
It's mainly that the discussion is often centered around the UK in that thread (logically).
Should Non-UK European Resetera member be more active as representatives?
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Oh, that's interesting, I never realised Amstrad ever gained any kind of traction outside the UK
We just don't have that nationwide, obsessive mainstream Nintendo nostalgia like in Japan and in the US.
Sorry but it's all totally wrong. The NES and the SNES were just as popular in the UK as anywhere else in Europe. I am in my 40s so they were my era. No one was playing guarna sisters. If anything it's the US that were more sega bias than Nintendo back in the day
Not just that. America basically "started" the internet and people make the same assumption that "North America" markets = USA (and ignore Canada and Mexico).
My parents always called it a "Nintendor". Don't ask me why. It does sound kinda cool though.
There's no doubt the Playstation changed things a lot in Germany too ,as you say, though.
OT: I always just assumed that's just exaggerated internet humour seeping into peoples minds as fact. Like, you'll see somone say "In the UK it was all about the Speccy." as a joke regularly in threads discussing retro gaming and some day it just became fact for some.
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It was marketed under the Schneider brand in Germany, and Amstrad sold a unique model in Spain (the CPC 472) with an additional 8k of (inaccessible) RAM to get around Spain's import duty on home computers without a 'ñ' key.
Amstrad Action (the UK's main CPC magazine, and the first published by Future Publishing) did a couple of features on the French market. Here's one from 1990 - https://mat.tl/ee/aa/AmstradAction056.pdf
Edit - And here's the other one from 1992, https://archive.org/details/amstrad-action-077
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Obviously not "all" about the Speccy as the Commodore 64 held it's own too at the same time, but it was insanely popular here, I believe it sold over 5 million units, I don't think people are joking when they reference it's popularity. Look at how many places it's games took up on the software charts I posted on the previous page.
That still doesn't make me want to become Alan Sugar's apprentice.
Benelux was handled by Nintendo France (as evidenced by most manuals from that time being in dual language (French/Deutch)).
I think it's around the time Iwata took the head of the company that the consolidation into Nintendo Europe happened
Actually disregard that.
Nintendo of Europe exists since the 90's
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_of_Europe said:
And for Ocarina of time,
I'm pretty sure my cart wasn't like that too
And that seems to confirm that there's only 3 lancguages in OoT
You'll be kicking yourself when the E-m@iler makes a comeback.
As a Canadian, I hate it when a game gets described as "US-only" when it came out in Canada as well. I don't know enough about Mexico because there's so little information available in English.
Not sure what you mean here. The UK created the internet, more specifically Tim Berners-Lee did.
I wasn't aware this was a view held here to be honest. Also I lived through the era and never heard of Gianna sisters until the remake last gen but was huge on Mario and Sonic on the NES, SNES and megadrive. The op seems weird to me in some places.
Oh yes, I wasn't trying to say it wasn't really popular with that, just that hyperbolic statements maybe "take root" in people's heads sometimes when they're repeated enough. Especially if those people aren't really all that interested about the facts.
Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web, not the internet
My knowledge maybe limited here but is that not the same thing? Or is the internet seen as the websites behind it? It's a semantic difference I guess i'm ignorant about?
Edit: So wikipedia gives me this:
"Many people use the terms Internet and World Wide Web, or just the Web, interchangeably, but the two terms are not synonymous. The World Wide Web is the primary application program that billions of people use on the Internet, and it has changed their lives immeasurably.[56][57] However, the Internet provides many other services."
Which answers that partially I guess XD
Is this true ? I always answered with Strasbourg, when people asked me or in quizzes...Now i feel like an idiot
I think Italy is the 5th one, but I don't remember where I read that.
First time reading this... That's crazy talk :D
In SPAIN particularly, the mega drive was far more common, due to its price. In the whole EU the sales figure was almost a draw (estimated 9M vs 9,1M for MD/Snes), but most were in the german area, which apparently was pretty much the Nzone.
But if you have more accurate numbers from SPAIN, I'd be glad to see them and stand corrected.
There's no capital in the traditional sense but yes, it's pretty much the admin home of the EU, as well as NATO HQ.
Yeah but the first big internet businesses and companies were American, weren't they? AOL, MySpace, LiveJournal, Xanga, Google, Yahoo!, eBay, Amazon, Netscape, Facebook, the biggest parts of the internet. Not British. Hence the quotations around "started."
Facebook is last 10 years but the World Wide Web is not that old in general (30 years), so you're distracting from the point. The web is americanized because its culture was colonized and seeded by Americans.
I agree too. UK has US like tastes while rest of EU has more different tastes (France is almost a little Japan for example, even more regarding animes and manga).
Fb is nowhere near the 1st of its kind EVEN for Europe, it's giant now and everything but it wasn't a reason why the WWW is seen with a US lens,
it was already like that when fb was made.
It's kinda like arguing your point but with Netflix when that service is mostly new for people in the EU to begin with.
I didn't say Facebook was first of its kind, but it's definitely bigger than anything the U.K. ever made from the internet. Most of my list was American companies from the 90s that shaped the internet, and Facebook carried that on and continued to shape and revolutionize starting 10 years ago. You decided to dwell on the fact that Facebook is more recent than the other companies I listed instead of acknowledging what I'm saying. I'm not even going to bother responding to you if you're going to seemingly intentionally misunderstand and distract from my point.
So true.
I'm French and the French market is so different from the UK actually.
From videogames to books.
I imagine the rest of Europe is no different given my limited knowledge of the German market.
I'm French and the French market is so different from the UK actually.
From videogames to books.
I imagine the rest of Europe is no different given my limited knowledge of the German market.
Not really surprising, since success in football ignores Britain all the time.
Yes, I wasn't sure if it was translated also in german, but without doubts it didn't have more than 3 languages.
When I said nationals divisions I didn't intend NoE but, for example, Nintendo Italia/Spain etc...
The first home console PAL Zelda that was translated in more than 3 languages was wind waker.
In italian Tetra was Dazel...
I'm saying your point is sound but that example is horrible.
The internet was already well shaped around US culture before Fb and Zuck's company didn't change anything on that front.
The WWW is not more or less US centric because of Facebook.
To go back more on topic, it's like arguing that France is more Japan friendly thanks to Nintendo when Nintendo didn't make it more or less popular.
Manga and Anime publishers did all the heavy lifting before and after.
People don't really care that Mario is from a Japanese company or anything, heck you can barely see the Japanese culture in a product like Mario most of the time.
Sony didn't change much either in that regard too.
The fact that software companies shaped the internet is not really debatable imo and the fact that the biggest software companies hailed from the US is certainly a big part of that (mostly because it's the place where it's probably the easiest to make something and have it up and running in no time, compared to less business friendly companies like France)
I knew that OoT was in English but I really don't remember the language select screen.
One thing I can say is that unlike Sony, Nintendo's translation was almost always top notch.
A good comparison would be between FFVII and OoT.
FFVII translation was done by Sony and is one of the worst French translation ever done and based on the English translation (they even forgot to translate a line of text from the english...fun easter egg).
OoT in comparison is pretty flawless and what you would expect from a high production software.
Of course Sony got better at that, stuff like Uncharted have great French translation and some of the best VA.
unrelated but BotW in French is actually much better than the English version...
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lmao, sure buddy. Why do people post shit like that, even though they have no idea what they're talking about? Reminds me of the good 'ol "germany has electricity?" meme
i think ff7 wasnt handled by sony, wasnt it?
i only know that nintendo was pushing a lot when it came to translations, but on the other hand they censored a lot of things too. so many games were simply not released because they were not childfriendly designed.
a german top notch translator who showed up in every manual and every "credit" in snes games was: Claude M. Moyse
he put a lot of dirty jokes into nintendo games which were later removed.
but back to topic:
the german (language) market is by far the largest: (germany, austria, swiss, liechtenstein, small part of belgium and croatia)
i dont know why everyone outside of europe thinks that UK represents europe. uk has become now, unfortunately something on its own. unfortunately they also consider themselves not europeans, never have, never will. i would love to hear grandchildren of my cousin(he lives in the uk) and me(germany) saying we are europeans...
I have no other response but to laugh. Well done, sir or madam.
SCEE published FFVII so I'd assume they're the ones who did the translation.
Nintendo really improved circa 94 when they managed to pull off pretty much spotless translations of stuffs like Zelda LA on Gb.
I don't think NoE censored anything, I seem to remember that any censoring was done for the NA market (after all any edit done for censoring was going to be increasingly costly and they may not have had to budget to censor the games more anyway)
I heard about these stories, our French translation were a little more pedestrian but they had a lot of charm as well.
Anything was better than whatever the fuck happened with FFVII, VII or IX.
Yeah, the German language market is usually pretty big.
Here's to hoping the UK gets back to its senses, although regardless it's going to be easier to steer the EU without them.
Giana Sisters
It is just nonsense. I grew up in the 80's. I had an Amiga, my friends had NES, mastersystem, SNES, and mega drive (much less than snes).
I never heard of Gianna sisters until recently. It was not big in the uk.
It is just nonsense. I grew up in the 80's. I had an Amiga, my friends had NES, mastersystem, SNES, and mega drive (much less than snes).
I never heard of Gianna sisters until recently. It was not big in the uk.