Excited for P3 remake since it remains my favorite entry, nervous for P6 since I really did not like P5 and while I like the series formula they really need to shake it up a little bit. After three 80+ hour long games, all 3 with major updates making them easy 100+ hour long games, they need to at least update the formula a bit to change up the pacing and feel of things.
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This is where I'm at. I'm not against Persona's identity being "High School" but the well after Persona 5 absolutely feels tapped dry.
Even Strikers went past that idea to get more material (Even if it doesn't tackle themes as strongly as mainline games).
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My biggest question is what should we expect first, P3R or P6? Sounds like they're both pretty far along, I doubt Atlus would be dumb enough to release TWO Persona games back to back and then have a gap of years for the next one
Why is University/College rarely thrown about as an option? It's still 'school life' but with young adults instead of teenagers. Could even implement more strategy into the time management by having to pick which classes you do instead of just having a single block of "SCHOOL TIME!" every single weekday.
Persona 6 will be likely aimed at current 16-24 year olds, not the 16-24 year olds from 2006, who are now in their 30/40s
We can't expect to be the main target demographic forever
I'm another one who would like P6 to have an adult party.
I loved P5R and am excited to finally play P3P and P4G. However, to be honest, it's a little hard to get some kind of immersion in a teen story when you're already 26.
I loved P5R and am excited to finally play P3P and P4G. However, to be honest, it's a little hard to get some kind of immersion in a teen story when you're already 26.
I don't think it's rarely thrown about at all. One of the more popular suggestions for the series could go.
Sounds great. Fund it.
It baffles me how there aren't way more "Persona-likes" from indie and AAA studios since the formula is really great and is only ever really done well in Persona games. P5's success has to have been influential in some way right?
They already made Catherine. The idea is that you can't get the replacement for high school content with just work, drinking, and sleeping.
I was getting more at someone who was 16-18 playing Persona 5 since the games are easily obtainable now. I feel it was a bit different when P5 came out since you were either jumping through hoops to play older titles.
Absolutely don't see Persona ever dealing with people in their 30/40's as the outright main theme lol. At most, it would be just kinda stepping into it as Strikers did with its side plot.
This is what I'm concerned with over anything else. I couldn't give a shit how old or young the cast is if the writing is still terrible.
Japanese culture seem to have an exclusive and unique view on high school, like it's that one point in your life where you get to be the most carefree before you are thrown into the real world with various responsibilities and bareæy any time off to see friends. Like I hear issues about people being overworked a lot which could be an interesting hook for a Persona. But would Japanese devs and players be interested in making that type of game? Atlus did make Catherine (which wasn't that great) but at leasy it had adults but I dunno. I think Persona is always gonna be about high school kids.
While I'm more interested in a P3 remake than P3P, I do think it's important to have some version of the original game available for those who want to experience it.
I agree with having adults in P6. Let's travel the world too!
Yeah, and I also would like to see young adults or university students, but I fully expect it will be high school again
I think the kind of people who play JRPGs has probably skewered up since then as well, though I'm just guessing. It's just that I don't see many younger people playing turn based JRPGs, so there is a case they could try at least university students to capture a young audience as well as series fans who want to see older characters
That said, there are a lot of fans of the older games who also still like the high school setting, so I think they'll go with that again anyway
What I learned from this thread is that more people need to play Saints Row reboot. Young adults complaining about student loan debt, what's not to love?
I'd love to see a university setting but they're not moving away from the high school setting, that's their bread and butter. As long as it's not some road setting, I'm good with the same old, but built on top of it. They just need new scenarios and not the same cookie cutter stereotypes and story threads. Persona 5 excelled at its best when doing something off the beaten path, especially in P5R.
I have no idea when it'll come out though. December 2024 in Japan at the very earliest is the best I can guess, and even that's 8 years since Persona 5's release. I just hope they actually push themselves, since 5 was naturally a PS3 game. I don't care so much about the graphics, but they have to do more with the core game design.
I have no idea when it'll come out though. December 2024 in Japan at the very earliest is the best I can guess, and even that's 8 years since Persona 5's release. I just hope they actually push themselves, since 5 was naturally a PS3 game. I don't care so much about the graphics, but they have to do more with the core game design.
Wow it's like you read my mind, P3 is also my favorite, especially the mood of the game (still unmatched by the other entries) and I'm really exited for the remake, can't say the same for P6. I know a lot of people like the formula, but I can't imagine doing the same thing yet again for countless of hours, especially if they are the same "everybody loves you because you're the most perfect person in the world" trope, and please no more gross otaku fantasies like the teacher social link. They can keep the school setting, because we all know they are never going to change that, just do something different.
This concept will be very silly if they keep the cast as high schoolers imo.
Now if they are adults that'd be awesome.
Will definitely be interesting to see where it goes. Since I imagine Persona 6 is probably the first Persona ever being made with a world-wide audience in-mind. So whatever that entails we'll just have to see.
If we want to zoom things back a bit. Persona 3 getting a remake could very well be due to 6 doing something different setting-wise, so 3 is more of a "Look, we haven't forgotten about you if this isn't what you vibe with'.
Regardless, I'm curious to see what happens
i think the series is uniquely positioned in the games market as titles that have a YA feel. in other mediums like tv, you had entire channels like the cw make multiple shows out of a basic formula dealing with high schoolers. you go on streaming services like netflix or hbo and you see stuff like euphoria or heartstopper. disney+ is gearing up a percy jackson series, which is just summer camp with greek gods. the formula is successful.
there's not a lot of games that tell coming of age stories, especially in the high profile space. this genre of storytelling can be predictable sure, but at the same time there will always be a new generation as well as a bunch of adults wanting to recapture their youth. i think persona stands alone in offering this type of experience right now.
to me, what should be more important now is making sure future stories move with the times. this genre in other mediums has been one of the most positive when it comes to having lgbt representation and being more inclusive.
A high school setting is inevitable for P6. I'm also expecting a green or purple color theme. I'm more interested in where the setting of the game. P4 and P5 have very different settings after all.
Edit: I'd love a college/university setting though.
A P3 remake is cool and it'll be nice way for me to play it for the first time.
Edit: I'd love a college/university setting though.
A P3 remake is cool and it'll be nice way for me to play it for the first time.
FemC route is the only reason I like P3 remotely close to as much as I like the 2 duology so that's a huge bummer if the remake doesn't have it, but at least that means I don't have to spend a month of my life playing P3 again. Not a big fan of P4 or P5 at all so hopefully Hashino being off doing other things means P6 will at least not feel like more of what those games were.
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I have zero interest in an adult Persona setting, like jeez there are houndreds of games out there were you play adults. One big franchise focused on HS is not the end of the world lol.
My guess is that Microsoft paid them a fixed sum to port P3-P5 to Xbox and PC, they did it as cheaply as possible to maximize their profit. P3P doesn't look that great (they pretty clearly did some basic upscaling on PSP-resolution backgrounds), but it likely was cheaper than doing a full texture pass on P3FES.
Also, a college/university setting would be an improvement for the series. It lets them keep the educational setting, but having the characters be of age side-steps many (but not all) of the series' issue with sexualizing characters (but doesn't resolve the teachers-dating-students issue).
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What are those games? We all know Persona started with 3 silly goose.
There are virtually zero JRPGs in the modern era with adult casts, especially not RPGs in a modern-day setting.
Yakuza LAD is the only recent one I can think of off the top of my head.
Also like... They could do a college Persona.
The ones that are (Yakuza 7 and Persona 2: Eternal Punishment off the top of my head) are some of the best JRPGs in modern settings I've played hands down tbh, wouldn't mind more series having adult casts.
Nearly the entire JRPG genre can be summed up as "teenagers save the world".
Probs because the p3 remake ain't gonna have FeMC, so this is their way of appeasing that fan base if I had to guess.
Exactly. There's so much ground to cover there and virtually NOBODY plays with it.
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It's because of Atlus
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As for the cast of P6 , I don't mind how they are doing it
But if a change of cast age , I would say early college year would be great
I was talking about games in general not just JRPGs. In any case no other franchise provides the "Persona experience" anywhere close to the OG so i would like for them to continue like they have. Also Persona 2 was the worst selling Persona by a mile you can all guess why that is lol.
I'll say this: Atlus seems to be the kind of company that has very specific ideas as to what each of their series are supposed to be about and will often express divergent ideas through either spin offs or asides. Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey was supposed to be SMT IV but ultimately they decided that SMT is supposed to be about....
- A teenage boy
- Takes place in Tokyo
and so it got the spin off treatment. I think they probably feel similarly about Persona which is probably why Eternal Punishment is a Part 2 of Persona 2 and not just Persona 3.
- A teenage boy
- Takes place in Tokyo
and so it got the spin off treatment. I think they probably feel similarly about Persona which is probably why Eternal Punishment is a Part 2 of Persona 2 and not just Persona 3.
Because there was no market penetration for the series at the time?
I would totally be down with a Persona where you play as adults. I don't think it will happen, but I would love it.
People act like 20-30 are fucking dinosaurs with nothing going on. High Schoolers aren't the only people still figuring their shit out. People in their 20s are still finding out and defining who they are as a human being, dealing with major social, personal, and other pressures. It's not like you graduate HS and suddenly life is boring as shit and there's nothing to work with.
The crazy thing is that Persona doesn't actually deal with HS at all. It's a framework for the game, the most there is to HS is the club activities and occasional tests, but the fantastical elements of the plots so overwhelmingly supersede the mundanity of HS itself that the actual HS sections of the game are just literal window dressing you watch go by until you can get to the good parts where you go to fight monsters with your friends after school.
The crazy thing is that Persona doesn't actually deal with HS at all. It's a framework for the game, the most there is to HS is the club activities and occasional tests, but the fantastical elements of the plots so overwhelmingly supersede the mundanity of HS itself that the actual HS sections of the game are just literal window dressing you watch go by until you can get to the good parts where you go to fight monsters with your friends after school.