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PETA Wants Far Cry 6 to Remove Its Cockfighting Mini-Game

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stormfire

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Senior Manager of PETA's Latino branch, Alicia Aguayo, released a statement calling on Ubisoft to remove cockfighting from the game.
"Turning a horrific blood sport like cockfighting into a Mortal Kombat–style video game match is a far cry from real innovation, as today's society is strongly opposed to forcing animals to fight to the death. Roosters used in cockfights are fitted with sharp spurs that tear through flesh and bone, causing agonizing and fatal injuries. PETA Latino urges Ubisoft to replace this reprehensible minigame with one that doesn't glorify cruelty."
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PETA Latino Statement: Cockfighting in ‘Far Cry 6’ | PETA

Below, please find a statement from PETA Latino Senior Manager Alicia Aguayo in response to the cockfighting minigame that reportedly appears in Far Cry Below, please find a statement from PETA Latino Senior Manager Alicia Aguayo in response to the cockfighting minigame that reportedly appears...
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NinjaScooter

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I believe the last Far Cry game had you burn bulls alive so that you can collect their testicles for a mission IIRC. I understand this stuff is cruel, and the developers don't seem to spare animals from that cruelty, but these are also games where you are murdering humans at every turn so its hard for me to reconcile those two things.
 
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The cockfighting definitely had me raising my eyebrows.

Then again it's not like the game shies away from violence towards humans either. It's all round kinda gross
 
Golbez

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Wait, this is in the game? I assumed it was some weird meme and didn't bothered to look it up. Yikes
 

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Ubisoft and poor taste.

Name a more iconic duo.

NinjaScooter said:
I believe the last Far Cry game had you burn bulls alive so that you can collect their testicles for a mission IIRC. I understand this stuff is cruel, and the developers don't seem to spare animals from that cruelty, but these are also games where you are murdering humans at every turn so its hard for me to reconcile those two things.
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I don't feel extremely strongly about it, but I'd imagine the outcry is more that it's the glorification of murder, particularly of things that already are rights abuses in reality. The fact that it's a sort of trivialization of a systemic abuse of fowl is conceptually similar to why someone might be outraged at GTA not for the murder but for the sexism and transphobia. Its punching down/making light of a real situation. While murder is definitely something that happens in reality, it's generally more decentralized and applies to a lot of humans. It would be the difference between, say, murdering humans, and systemically murdering women.
 

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It's a bit baffling why they wasted resources on adding something like this, but it's equally as baffling to me why so many people have an issue with it while at the same time slicing peoples necks open with machetes and burning them alive with flamethrowers.. or sending their pet crocodile to brutally murder them etc. is totally fine.

So if anyone could elaborate on why this is different, I'd appreciate it. After all it's just a game, and not even a particularly realistic one. It's cartoon violence in both cases.
 
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May said:
It's a bit baffling why they wasted resources on adding something like this, but it's equally as baffling to me why so many people have an issue with it while at the same time slicing peoples necks open with machetes and burning them alive with flamethrowers.. or sending their pet crocodile to brutally murder them etc. is totally fine.
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I don't understand why people dismiss it like this... There is a big difference here.

A cruel form of literal animal abuse being a mini-game players are guided to enjoy is quite gross.
 
gattotimo

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So it's ok to kill fake humans in videogames but god forbid we have fake cocks fighing each other
 
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May said:
It's a bit baffling why they wasted resources on adding something like this, but it's equally as baffling to me why so many people have an issue with it while at the same time slicing peoples necks open with machetes and burning them alive with flamethrowers.. or sending their pet crocodile to brutally murder them etc. is totally fine.
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Yeah like I sort of get it. I can watch all sorts of movies with violence and murder but the scene in John Wick where the dog dies bummed me out to the point I didn't even want to finish watching it the first time around. But I also sort of recognize that's my own deal, and its kind of weird. A game like Far Cry is full of all sorts of over the top, unchecked violence and atrocities committed on humans. It would be weird to suddenly draw the line at digital roosters.
 
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NinjaScooter said:
I believe the last Far Cry game had you burn bulls alive so that you can collect their testicles for a mission IIRC. I understand this stuff is cruel, and the developers don't seem to spare animals from that cruelty, but these are also games where you are murdering humans at every turn so its hard for me to reconcile those two things.
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Running around and murdering people with a rocket launcher backpack while defeating a dictator's army is a power fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. Cockfighting is just...cockfighting. Killing random animals to get ressources to upgrade your backpack by running over their corpse is also too far removed from any actual real life activity to be regarded as problematic by most.

Ubisoft just going "Yo, isn't cockfighting DOPE? :D" is , by contrast, so incredibly weird and tonedeaf, because cockfighting is just a common, real life activity where people torture animals. You and your main character are just, without further comment, starting to torture animals, because it's fun. It's just so very weird that this is part of a AAA game.
 
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SilentRob said:
Running around and murdering people with a rocket launcher backpack while defeating a dictator's army is a power fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. Cockfighting is just...cockfighting. Killing random animals to get ressources to upgrade your backpack is so far removed from any actual real life activity that it immediatly is way too far removed from any actual real life actions to be regarded as problematic by most.

Ubisoft just going "Yo, isn't cockfighting DOPE? :D" is so weird and tone deaf, because cockfighting is just a thing that people do.
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Yep.
 
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SilentRob said:
Running around and murdering people with a rocket launcher backpack while defeating a dictator's army is a power fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. Cockfighting is just...cockfighting. Killing random animals to get ressources to upgrade your backpack is so far removed from any actual real life activity that it immediatly is way too far removed from any actual real life actions to be regarded as problematic by most.

Ubisoft just going "Yo, isn't cockfighting DOPE? :D" is so weird and tone deaf, because cockfighting is just a thing that people do.
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I guess I can see that point, and that's fair.
 
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I have no problem with it being in the game as part of a story or side mission to show that it happens in Cuba but to make it a playable MINI game is just bad taste. Like who can enjoy playing that like a casino side game? Definitely not me.
 
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Seems par for the course with Far Cry. The games have been incredibly tone deaf for a good half of its existence, with writing and ideas I can only imagine were targeted at a very young teenage demographic. I remember having to kill a near extinct cheetah with a grenade launcher or something in 4, just to get a nicer wallet.
 
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Ironically, not the first time PETA took issue with a Ubisoft Open world game

www.forbes.com

PETA Attacks Assassin's Creed 4 For Including Whaling UPDATE: Ubisoft Responds

PETA is at it again, and they’re getting a little quicker. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has come out against video games before – lambasting Mario for wearing raccoon skin and criticizing Pokemon for encouraging the enslavement of animals – and now they’re hitting Assassin’s Creed...
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

But considering PETA openly admits that they euthanize animals in their care, i dont think they have the moral high ground over a tekken-parody minigame where the animals dont even die
 
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I remember thinking how ridiculously racist it was that this was in the game when I first heard about it.
 
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Peta: we are okay with the slaughtering of people in this game. But please remove the animal killing.
 
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Akiba756 said:
Ironically, not the first time PETA took issue with a Ubisoft Open world game

www.forbes.com

PETA Attacks Assassin's Creed 4 For Including Whaling UPDATE: Ubisoft Responds

PETA is at it again, and they’re getting a little quicker. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has come out against video games before – lambasting Mario for wearing raccoon skin and criticizing Pokemon for encouraging the enslavement of animals – and now they’re hitting Assassin’s Creed...
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

But considering PETA openly admits that they euthanize animals in their care, i dont think they have the moral high ground over a tekken-parody minigame where the animals dont even die
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I don't care about how awful PETA is, Ubisoft is terrible for adding this.

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Peta: we are okay with the slaughtering of people in this game. But please remove the animal killing.
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You kill people that want to kill you, this is just cruelty for the sake of it.

There's a reason even games like GTA don't have certain kinds of violence.

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This is a franchise that's allowed players to slaughter animals for over a decade.

Genuinely curious why it's a problem now.
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Maybe people are getting better/more conscious, idk.
 
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I'm against animal cruelty in real life, but at the same time this minigame is a very exaggerated -almost fantastic- depiction, with healthbars and all that stuff. This is almost like complaining about fighting a squirrel while riding a toy plane in It Takes Two. To be honest (as a latin american person) the fact they're using the old "latin countries love barbaric sports with animals" stereotype bothers me more.
 
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It's an incredibly depraved and cruel thing to depict as some sort of fun mini game.

I guess Ubisoft have to go above and beyond to maintain their status as the world's most hated games company.
 
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astro said:
Big difference between hunting and an actual form of animal abuse/sport being a mini-gamr players can enjoy.
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to be fair, someone brought this up after the release of Far Cry 5 as that game also had instance of animal abuse/cruelty that extended beyond simple hunting/scavanging.

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The mission I remember from FC5 is the one I mention here. You are instructed to wait until a bull is horny and then burn it alive in order to harvest its balls for some kind of bull testicle stew.

AT the very least it shows the devs have a very cavalier perspective on animal violence in their games.
 
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astro said:
Already have. As have others.
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You haven't though. We have violence towards humans at every turn in videogames (and other media) and it's not always for the greater good of overturning a dictatorship. Still, every time such violence is inflicted upon digital animals, the outcries are deafening. And I honestly can't fathom how anyone can be so dismissive of inflicting fake violence upon fake humans while being so sensitive when there are fake animals involved
 
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Animals fighting each other? Not in my video games. Disgusting, please remove.
Humans shooting each other? Absolutely fine.
 
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SilentRob said:
Running around and murdering people with a rocket launcher backpack while defeating a dictator's army is a power fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. Cockfighting is just...cockfighting. Killing random animals to get ressources to upgrade your backpack by running over their corpse is also too far removed from any actual real life activity to be regarded as problematic by most.
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i'd argue that the cockfighting is presented as exaggerated and over the top as the killing of humans is. It's as far removed from actual depiction of animal violence as it is with human violence in my opinion.
 
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May said:
It's a bit baffling why they wasted resources on adding something like this, but it's equally as baffling to me why so many people have an issue with it while at the same time slicing peoples necks open with machetes and burning them alive with flamethrowers.. or sending their pet crocodile to brutally murder them etc. is totally fine.

So if anyone could elaborate on why this is different, I'd appreciate it. After all it's just a game, and not even a particularly realistic one. It's cartoon violence in both cases.
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Would it be equally baffling to you if games like this included rape and torture scenes? Since a game includes killing, why draw any lines?
 
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Ogni-XR21 said:
Running over pedestrians in any open world game is fair game, so is killing your opponent with over the top fatalities in Mortal Kombat, but this is clearly going too far!! /s
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No one "normal" is running over pedestrians in cars, but cockfighting is common.

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Would it be equally baffling to you if games like this included rape and torture scenes? Since a game includes killing, why draw any lines?
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Many people actually argue that rape should be allowed because murder is.
 
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Akiba756 said:
Ironically, not the first time PETA took issue with a Ubisoft Open world game

www.forbes.com

PETA Attacks Assassin's Creed 4 For Including Whaling UPDATE: Ubisoft Responds

PETA is at it again, and they’re getting a little quicker. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has come out against video games before – lambasting Mario for wearing raccoon skin and criticizing Pokemon for encouraging the enslavement of animals – and now they’re hitting Assassin’s Creed...
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

But considering PETA openly admits that they euthanize animals in their care, i dont think they have the moral high ground over a tekken-parody minigame where the animals dont even die
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Pokemon is encouraging the enslavement of animals? I mean that seems a leap too far...
 
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