The fact that he sides with racist cops says otherwise.
Guys, it's one thing that he says these whitebread comments. It's another that poor history of helping black people means he's not really sincere with the,.
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Pete Buttigieg says being gay helps him relate to the struggles that black people face in America, statement has angered some black people
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The fact that he sides with racist cops says otherwise.
Guys, it's one thing that he says these whitebread comments. It's another that poor history of helping black people means he's not really sincere with the,.
The statement is bullshit coming from him. He needs to drop the topic of black people altogether; he's already proven that he doesn't care about us.
He has absolutely NOT used his perspective as a gay man to bridge a gap between himself and the black community, which is why this statement is actually nonsense.
He has absolutely NOT used his perspective as a gay man to bridge a gap between himself and the black community, which is why this statement is actually nonsense.
Yeah that's a fair thing to say. Doesn't mean he understands the experience of being black, but he definitely has more personal experience with discrimination and bigotry than, say, Biden.
Right? People are mad at him for something he didn't say. Seems to be plenty to be mad at him about but this ain't it.
This all just seems like pointless hair-splitting to me.
I'm black and leads me having to deal with some shit. I think it makes me more empathetic and understanding to the issues that other groups deal with. Obviously not in the "I understand the particular details of your issues" kind of way. It's in a way where you understand how hurtful these issues can be. It's obvious.
this statement is a non issue IMO. the real issue is him faking black endorsements, calling people calling for better working conditions SJWs, and his entire shady history related to south bend. In addition to just being a run of the mill corporate tool of course
That doesn't sound bad, he didn't say these things are equal, just that he can relate.
As pointed out, you cant "come out" as black, but at the same time I dont think that "not coming out" is a nice thing, an advantage for gay people.
And he even says the thing about his rights being discussed on TV and as far as I know there is noone advocating against black's rights (openly and clearly, Apartheid style). We know reality is tough, same law doesn't apply equally for whites and blacks in the same way, so yeah, "relatable" is a word that seems to fit for me.
Im white and not gay so I can be totally wrong in my assumptions - in which case educate myself.
As pointed out, you cant "come out" as black, but at the same time I dont think that "not coming out" is a nice thing, an advantage for gay people.
And he even says the thing about his rights being discussed on TV and as far as I know there is noone advocating against black's rights (openly and clearly, Apartheid style). We know reality is tough, same law doesn't apply equally for whites and blacks in the same way, so yeah, "relatable" is a word that seems to fit for me.
Im white and not gay so I can be totally wrong in my assumptions - in which case educate myself.
You're arguably right.
Pointless to some meaningful to others....
Guess I was just stating the obvious. In the grand scheme not even a blip really. Just a chance to throw in some thoughts.
Was ready to roll my eyes, but this comment from him is on point.
The vague characterization of his comment by the Washington Post is way harsher than what he actually said. That headline does him zero favors. I know it helps generate "clicks" but its fucked up that the Post would push out a headline like that.
Comment was fine, Buttigieg hate on this forum is ... interesting given the amount of people pushing Clinton on GAF back in 2016.
"People" aren't misunderstanding. A small percentage of folks will ever read his quote. Most will see headlines, and draw judgments from there.
This is good. Different discriminated groups don't go through the exact same experiences but they still face discrimination and can try to support each other and be united in their efforts.
I think it is quite poor if you wish this guy didn't reflect on his own experiences and try to build a connection with others.
I think you're dismissing who this person is and silencing their voice by choosing to ignore his sexuality.
I think it is quite poor if you wish this guy didn't reflect on his own experiences and try to build a connection with others.
I think you're dismissing who this person is and silencing their voice by choosing to ignore his sexuality.
I think the statement taken in a vacuum by itself isn't a problem. It's when you put it alongside his past history wrt poc issues that you run into issues.
It's really great having the extreme intelligence it apparently takes to remember what amazing work he did for race relations in his city. Combine that with this statement and my brain damage helps me see nothing wrong with it.
It's relating sexual orientation discrimination to racial discrimination....
I agree. He clearly states that. Please let us not do identity politics like the right.
Why would people be outraged over a candidate attempting to show some empathy and solitude?
Going after him for other statements or positions is fine, but choose your battles and don't discourage positive behavior.
Going after him for other statements or positions is fine, but choose your battles and don't discourage positive behavior.
I think the statement is very good and on point. But I can think that people have issues with his actual action where he, afaik, sided a lot with the police when it comes to black people.
Ergo, might be seen as hypocrite.
Absolutely. Nuance is completely dead in 2020. People just cannot process complex issues anymore. It has to be spoon fed to them.
He's not wealthy.
But agreed, when you're a politician, people are going to want you to comment on stuff that normal people wouldn't.
He's worth over 100k and when his campaign falls he'll make even more money just like most of these canidates.
Maybe wealthy wasn't the right term, but when you look at how much he's making compared with the average income in his city, he's doing very well. Reminds me of this thread: The Majority of Americans Consider Someone Making 100k/yr Rich. What The F***?
His intent was probably fine, but it is probably a stupid way to message it for a guy in his position when it comes to black voters. Shoulda ran that past PR a couple more times.
I'm no Pete stan, but he's really saying the exact opposite of that.
He's saying that his rights were expanded and protected due to a coalition of help from other groups, and that he wants to be a part of the fight for Black rights the same way that he saw straight people fight for LGBT rights.
I mean, you can call bullshit on that if you want. His history on Black justice certain doesn't do him any favours here. He's been shit on race issues for most of his time as a public servant. But his words are being misrepresented here.
He's saying that his rights were expanded and protected due to a coalition of help from other groups, and that he wants to be a part of the fight for Black rights the same way that he saw straight people fight for LGBT rights.
I mean, you can call bullshit on that if you want. His history on Black justice certain doesn't do him any favours here. He's been shit on race issues for most of his time as a public servant. But his words are being misrepresented here.
Some of y'all are sure quick to fall for this shit. Cause his record says otherwise.
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I mean it boils down to I am part of a group that has been discriminated against therefore I am a position to empathise with their plight, and more relevantly fight for it. I don't think it necessarily follows. And in his case, nothing is proven. Just like most everything else about him.
