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PewDiePie attempts to distance himself from Christchurch Mosque shooter who pledged support (READ THREADMARKS)

Oct 30, 2017
2,370
Canada
I think maybe one of the most tragic things is what fucking value does PDP bring to people or the world? (Yes yes I know the big answer is 'normalise shitty opinions and act as a gateway to deeper bigotry). Scratch part of your lizard brain if you're mentally 10, I guess? It is really minimal, low quality 'entertainment' value. At this point people are just defending him for the sake of defending him?
  1. The funny internet man is their friend.
  2. They agree with him and are excited he is saying and normalizing the things that they are not allowed to say.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,744
Have you guys seen anything about the manifesto? I don't like or care for PDP but the shooter had a ton of sarcasm, irony, memes, racism, facism, shitposting etc. in it. He even had the damn navy seal copy pasta in it and mentioned Spyro and Fortnite. Before we all jump on PDP, lets be real and admit that this dude was straight up crazy lunatic and had loads of internet culture spread throughout his manifesto, with 8chan posts etc. probably so people all have this same reaction to nearly anything he mentioned and try to pin blame on any one person when its a crazy huge list. PDP needs to just disappear after this.
He's not insane,he's a byproduct of the meme alt-right culture, a terrorist, the names on the weapons had the names of well known fascist killers.

'He's insane' is a simplystic way out to absolve all the alt-right assholes has done in the last years, which has been spread hate and normalize toxic behavior against minorities.
 

Soj

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,970
Maybe this will be the thing that finally makes PDP realize the shit he spews matters and can cause people to do things.

I don't think the guy is mature enough to realize the kind of power he has with his channel.
Nah, he knows exactly what he's doing.

I don't think the people giving Felix the benefit of the doubt have watched enough of his shit content.
 
Jan 9, 2018
620
User banned (1 month): downplaying hate speech
I've followed PDP for a while (still a tolerant leftist progressive in a likewise country, don't worry), feel like PewDiePie often goes for a South Park kind of edgy humor. People who denounce PewDiePie, do you also denounce the writers of South Park, e.g. for spreading and making light of anti-semitism and racism?


Not making an implicit point here beyond that I think it's pretty similar. I'm genuinely interested in how you compare this material to PDP.
 
Oct 27, 2017
226
I don't watch his videos nor do I follow him. Even before he was controversial, the rare video I'd see of him, I did not find funny in the slightest. His humor is trash and on the level of someone like "Fred" from 10 or so years ago. Difference being PDP is more offensive.

Lately, I think he has tried to be edgy and push boundaries, and his "jokes" went far past any reasonable line. When he paid those people in a third world country to utter ridiculous shit, I felt he was dead wrong and not funny. I feel he's trying to be edgy. With that said, I do not believe that he is proud or happy that this shooting occurred, and I believe he is sickened that he somehow affected such a horrific tragedy. It's not fair to blame him.
 
Remember how people on 4chan and reddit *hated* Pewdiepie because he was dumb and they didn't think he was funny, and then they rallied around him when he got in trouble for being racist and antisemitic? He knows what he's doing, don't ever excuse his behaviour as him being dumb or immature

do you also denounce the writers of South Park, e.g. for spreading and making light of anti-semitism and racism?
Yes, of course. If this is meant to be some kind of gotcha question it's a bad one
 
Jan 22, 2018
1,203
I've followed PDP for a while (still a tolerant leftist progressive in a likewise country, don't worry), feel like PewDiePie often goes for a South Park kind of edgy humor. People who denounce PewDiePie, do you also denounce the writers of South Park, e.g. for spreading and making light of anti-semitism and racism?


Not making an implicit point here beyond that I think it's pretty similar. I'm genuinely interested in how you compare this material to PDP.
South Park mostly punches up with its themes and characters. There's a tact to most of what they do and while they've slipped up every now and again, they've garnered a reputation for jabbing everyone they possibly can.
 
Thx for answering, I had never thought of SP like that, but in that case I can see where your reaction to PDP comes from. Not a gotcha.
It's okay, it's just kind of difficult to parse who is and isn't posting in bad faith. I personally think that you can make a direct link from the apathetic centrism of South Park to the radicalisation of the alt-right, but that's probably wildly off topic
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,744
I've followed PDP for a while (still a tolerant leftist progressive in a likewise country, don't worry), feel like PewDiePie often goes for a South Park kind of edgy humor. People who denounce PewDiePie, do you also denounce the writers of South Park, e.g. for spreading and making light of anti-semitism and racism?


Not making an implicit point here beyond that I think it's pretty similar. I'm genuinely interested in how you compare this material to PDP.
South Park is not a show without problems and imagery, but South Park, at least, can be described as transgressive in which they aim to everywhere and everyone. It has a component of social critique to some degree.

PDP humour is vacuous of any meaning and thus simply normalizing toxic behavior and imagery. 'is just a joke, bro' is not really humour, is banalizing fascism and thus making it socially acceptable.

And most of all, they don't have Ben Shapiro as a special guest on their show.
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,760
Thx for answering, I had never thought of SP like that, but in that case I can see where your reaction to PDP comes from. Not a gotcha.
I was a big fan of SP in its first few seasons, both me and the show were different back then. I grew up a little and the show grew down a lot. It used to mostly punch up until it didn't.

And the world also changed in the meantime, nazis weren't mainstream like they almost are now.
 
Nov 6, 2017
795
Brasil
He's not insane,he's a byproduct of the meme alt-right culture, a terrorist, the names on the weapons had the names of well known fascist killers.

'He's insane' is a simplystic way out to absolve all the alt-right assholes has done in the last years, which has been spread hate and normalize toxic behavior against minorities.
I agree with you.
 
Oct 27, 2017
349
It's okay, it's just kind of difficult to parse who is and isn't posting in bad faith. I personally think that you can make a direct link from the apathetic centrism of South Park to the radicalisation of the alt-right, but that's probably wildly off topic
I don't think it's a leap or off topic. South park is clearly reactionary -- it came out swinging with transgressive humor largely directed at norms with people of color, jews, etc, in an era where "political correctness" (ie, a baseline level of respect for marginalized people) was growing in success.

The parallels between the mainstream explosion of fascistic 4chan humor on youtube and similar platforms during the obama years and the bigoted, anti gay and racist "all in good fun, for the white people!" south park humor during the clinton years would be striking if it wasn't a pattern that had been repeated since the dawn of creative media.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,712
Yo fuck Pewdiepie fans. I mention him once in a tweet and his fans literally swarm my mentions with bullshit. Somebody even tried to get into my account. I only have 80 followers.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,216
When is the forum going to wake up to the fact that Skill Up is toxic as fuck.
I mean its a revolving door of the same posters taking two week breaks then coming back just to be on the same bullshit sometimes with burner accounts and sometimes not, so what do you expect.
 
Oct 31, 2017
690
New York, NY
Yeah, I'm not directly blaming PDP for this but the truth is he signals to white supremacy for the lolz and does a lot of damage. I'm not saying he isn't allowed to use his free speech but it goes both ways, he's free to be disgusting if he wants but he has to take a portion of the blame when shit like this happens.
 
Oct 27, 2017
349
i too take a stand against white supremecy by saying a lot of antisemetic things and then inviting ben shapiro on my show, to my audience of millions. This is a normal, healthy way for a far left activist to behave.
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,585
I can’t believe all the hate for Pewdiepie in this thread. It’s ridiculous. What you all don’t understand is that he’s just joking. He’s literally still just a dude in his bedroom making funny youtube videos, he doesn’t care if he has 10 subs or 90 million. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. It’s bullshit that y’all think he could be responsible because he makes jokes. The very fact that they are jokes discourages anything like this; you all that are hating act like he actually inspires people to do things like this. He’s literally making fun of people that think that way; that’s the essence of the joke. The shooter obviously did this just to take down Pewdiepie; it’s so easy to get people to attack someone like this. This likely will end him, btw. So y’all are helping the shooter check off an item on his bucket list. Yes, I’m slightly exaggerating, don’t be a moron.

PS: Don’t @ me.
Not sure if serious...
 
Oct 25, 2017
506
There is a quote from a literal neo-nazi somewhere on the net about how useful it is when people joke about Nazism. How it helps them spread their ideology and slide their way into young people's consciousness.

I can't for the life of me find it now, it may even be directly linked to one of PDP's past gaffs.

Edit- OK, found it.

https://www.newstatesman.com/scienc...e-pepe-how-ironic-nazism-taking-over-internet

PewDiePie – the most subscribed content creator on YouTube – was dropped by Disney after the Wall Street Journal exposed an array of anti-Semitic comments in his videos. In the past, he has spoken out against the media for misrepresenting his “jokes”, but this time he wrote a blog post in which he admitted: “I understand that these jokes were ultimately offensive.” What changed?

What changed is that PewDiePie was confronted with a reality that anti-hate campaigners have long since known to be true. After his anti-Semitic videos, PewDiePie was embraced by the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer, which is now calling itself “The world’s #1 PewDiePie Fansite.” PewDiePie has learnt a truth that many of the “just joking” brigade frequently try to deny – that satire, irony, and jokes can validate and legitimise hate speech in a way that helps it to spread.

So he has had a Nazi website promote and his name directly linked to a mass shooting. Will he learn?
Oh sure. “It’s just a joke, gosh” has always rung hollow, but again, there’s really no reasoning with these people - they’re either blind, willing evil, or both.
 
Oct 25, 2017
506
I can’t believe all the hate for Pewdiepie in this thread. It’s ridiculous. What you all don’t understand is that he’s just joking. He’s literally still just a dude in his bedroom making funny youtube videos, he doesn’t care if he has 10 subs or 90 million. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. It’s bullshit that y’all think he could be responsible because he makes jokes. The very fact that they are jokes discourages anything like this; you all that are hating act like he actually inspires people to do things like this. He’s literally making fun of people that think that way; that’s the essence of the joke. The shooter obviously did this just to take down Pewdiepie; it’s so easy to get people to attack someone like this. This likely will end him, btw. So y’all are helping the shooter check off an item on his bucket list. Yes, I’m slightly exaggerating, don’t be a moron.

PS: Don’t @ me.
“I don’t understand normalization and will refuse to think about anything beyond funny video man”

Lol ok apologist.
 

Hecht

Stuck in the Thanus 🔨
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
4,424
I can’t believe all the hate for Pewdiepie in this thread. It’s ridiculous. What you all don’t understand is that he’s just joking. He’s literally still just a dude in his bedroom making funny youtube videos, he doesn’t care if he has 10 subs or 90 million. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. It’s bullshit that y’all think he could be responsible because he makes jokes. The very fact that they are jokes discourages anything like this; you all that are hating act like he actually inspires people to do things like this. He’s literally making fun of people that think that way; that’s the essence of the joke. The shooter obviously did this just to take down Pewdiepie; it’s so easy to get people to attack someone like this. This likely will end him, btw. So y’all are helping the shooter check off an item on his bucket list. Yes, I’m slightly exaggerating, don’t be a moron.

PS: Don’t @ me.
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Oct 25, 2017
2,442
I can’t believe all the hate for Pewdiepie in this thread. It’s ridiculous. What you all don’t understand is that he’s just joking. He’s literally still just a dude in his bedroom making funny youtube videos, he doesn’t care if he has 10 subs or 90 million. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. It’s bullshit that y’all think he could be responsible because he makes jokes. The very fact that they are jokes discourages anything like this; you all that are hating act like he actually inspires people to do things like this. He’s literally making fun of people that think that way; that’s the essence of the joke. The shooter obviously did this just to take down Pewdiepie; it’s so easy to get people to attack someone like this. This likely will end him, btw. So y’all are helping the shooter check off an item on his bucket list. Yes, I’m slightly exaggerating, don’t be a moron.

PS: Don’t @ me.
you're a massive fucking idiot for getting this defensive over the suggestion that someone who has a massive platform should occasionally reflect on how they use it

as a joke tho, no ban please just joking
 
Oct 27, 2017
341
User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying hate speech.
What if the gunman had said: 'CALL OF DUTY IS THE BEST GAME EVER'.

Would videogames be guilty?
There are many outlets around the world debating if Fornite could have inspired the way he portrayed the act...

It's just mesmerizing to me how people are capable to make death trivial in order to use it as a weapon towards things they dislike instead of focusing on the important matter, a supremacist terrorism act and the escalating movement from those people, who are less and less scared from executing these acts and thanks to the internet are establishing connections across countries while gaining presence in actual governments thanks to conservative parties doing all they can to keep in charge and plundering their countries.

With this thread resetEra is proving to be no different, putting the focus of this tragedy in fucking pewdiepie, especially after he's condoned the tragedy... It's upsetting. I don't even understand how moderation has allowed the title to be this, in the most sensationalist and judgemental fashion possible.
And before someone comes with that bullshit about "we talk about him because we are a gaming forum", no. This is just a distasteful way to use a tragedy to keep the hate on him.

Some should take a look at themselves and think if their not becoming what they're fighting against...
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,115
I can’t believe all the hate for Pewdiepie in this thread. It’s ridiculous. What you all don’t understand is that he’s just joking. He’s literally still just a dude in his bedroom making funny youtube videos, he doesn’t care if he has 10 subs or 90 million. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. It’s bullshit that y’all think he could be responsible because he makes jokes. The very fact that they are jokes discourages anything like this; you all that are hating act like he actually inspires people to do things like this. He’s literally making fun of people that think that way; that’s the essence of the joke. The shooter obviously did this just to take down Pewdiepie; it’s so easy to get people to attack someone like this. This likely will end him, btw. So y’all are helping the shooter check off an item on his bucket list. Yes, I’m slightly exaggerating, don’t be a moron.

PS: Don’t @ me.
Forgot to add that the terrorist just used PewDiePie as way to gain more attention and somehow putting the media against him again.

There are many outlets around the world debating if Fornite could have inspired the way he portrayed the act...

It's just mesmerizing to me how people are capable to make death trivial in order to use it as a weapon towards things they dislike instead of focusing on the important matter, a supremacist terrorism act and the escalating movement from those people, who are less and less scared from executing these acts and thanks to the internet are establishing connections across countries while gaining presence in actual governments thanks to conservative parties doing all they can to keep in charge and plundering their countries.

With this thread resetEra is proving to be no different, putting the focus of this tragedy in fucking pewdiepie, especially after he's condoned the tragedy... It's upsetting. I don't even understand how moderation has allowed the title to be this, in the most sensationalist and judgemental fashion possible.
And before someone comes with that bullshit about "we talk about him because we are a gaming forum", no. This is just a distasteful way to use a tragedy to keep the hate on him.

Some should take a look at themselves and think if their not becoming what they're fighting against...
Mate, what are you talking about? Nobody is blaming PewDiePie on this attacks, all that's being said is that people like him enable this terrible meme culture of "just jokes bro" and normalizing hate speech and white supremacy. We would love to be talking about other stuff, the victims, and so, but it's not our fault that the memes have gone so far he got mentioned on a fucking terrorist attack video.
 
Oct 26, 2017
3,548
I can’t believe all the hate for Pewdiepie in this thread. It’s ridiculous. What you all don’t understand is that he’s just joking. He’s literally still just a dude in his bedroom making funny youtube videos, he doesn’t care if he has 10 subs or 90 million. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. It’s bullshit that y’all think he could be responsible because he makes jokes. The very fact that they are jokes discourages anything like this; you all that are hating act like he actually inspires people to do things like this. He’s literally making fun of people that think that way; that’s the essence of the joke. The shooter obviously did this just to take down Pewdiepie; it’s so easy to get people to attack someone like this. This likely will end him, btw. So y’all are helping the shooter check off an item on his bucket list. Yes, I’m slightly exaggerating, don’t be a moron.

PS: Don’t @ me.
You could have just saved yourself the letters and write "I am a massive dumbass."
 

Dyle

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,621
Wisconsin
I've followed PDP for a while (still a tolerant leftist progressive in a likewise country, don't worry), feel like PewDiePie often goes for a South Park kind of edgy humor. People who denounce PewDiePie, do you also denounce the writers of South Park, e.g. for spreading and making light of anti-semitism and racism?


Not making an implicit point here beyond that I think it's pretty similar. I'm genuinely interested in how you compare this material to PDP.
South Park is making fun of idiots like that, not agreeing and encouraging them. Matt and Trey have consistently said that most of the people in the show are idiots and shouldn't be looked up to, and the show openly says that it shouldn't be watched by anyone, ever. Beyond that the big difference is that while they may reference these kinds of things, which is absolutely shitty and can go beyond satire, they aren't explicitly encouraging a culture of attacking and brigading people. Matt and Trey have never told their fans to start a war with a competitor's show, they've never hosted far right personalities to collaborate with them, and they've never used that same kind of seriously toxic humor to defend themselves when pressed about their toxicity.

South Park has certainly contributed to this larger ironic toxic meme culture that helps radicalize disenfranchised people but they've never weaponized it like PDP and similar influencer figures
 
Nov 6, 2017
795
Brasil
Yeah, I'm not directly blaming PDP for this but the truth is he signals to white supremacy for the lolz and does a lot of damage. I'm not saying he isn't allowed to use his free speech but it goes both ways, he's free to be disgusting if he wants but he has to take a portion of the blame when shit like this happens.
I do not think he's the problem per se. It is more of a byproduct of a right-wing culture that makes sensitive subjects joking. And you have no idea of the real consequences of the speech.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,156
Halifax, NS
I can’t believe all the hate for Pewdiepie in this thread. It’s ridiculous. What you all don’t understand is that he’s just joking. He’s literally still just a dude in his bedroom making funny youtube videos, he doesn’t care if he has 10 subs or 90 million. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. It’s bullshit that y’all think he could be responsible because he makes jokes. The very fact that they are jokes discourages anything like this; you all that are hating act like he actually inspires people to do things like this. He’s literally making fun of people that think that way; that’s the essence of the joke. The shooter obviously did this just to take down Pewdiepie; it’s so easy to get people to attack someone like this. This likely will end him, btw. So y’all are helping the shooter check off an item on his bucket list. Yes, I’m slightly exaggerating, don’t be a moron.

PS: Don’t @ me.
You have made all of 3 non-Nintendo related posts in the entire history of you being on this site. If you had stuck with that, you might have survived. Instead, you decided you needed to drop this steaming load of shit in here.

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