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PewDiePie attempts to distance himself from Christchurch Mosque shooter who pledged support (READ THREADMARKS)
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Seeing an obvious sock puppet 15-posts account replying to an obvious sock puppet 7-posts account with "this is why I'm starting to like this site" may be the most hilarious thing I've read all week. I'm fucking dying here. :D
In what world is calling someone a white supremacist role model defending them?
I mean if he's going to maintain that he's being serious, I'm going to push him on his position.
Arguing that the majority of Ben Shapiro fans are not white supremacists (or at the very least, indifferent/casually supportive of them) is defending what Ben Shapiro is. This is on top of him saying he doesn't dislike Shapiro because of the content, but because of his fanbase. That implies if it wasn't for the fan base, everything would be fine.
Do NOT take people at their word. That's how you end up with people like this. He repeatedly does/says things that a good person wouldn't. When he gets called out on it, he replies with "it's just a joke guys, of course I don't like stuff like this!" or "I'm sickened by this". Except the behavior never changes. His actions betray his words in every instance.
To be completely honest based off of his popularity and his repeated offenses regarding hate propaganda and/or hate speech, Google should ban him from YouTube. Stop giving filth like this a platform to make a crap ton of money. But they won't because of greed, and he brings in a lot of money for them also.
It would really be refreshing if people and companies started doing what was right and good simply because it is the right thing to do.
When people are killing in your name, literally.....this shit has to stop.
To be completely honest based off of his popularity and his repeated offenses regarding hate propaganda and/or hate speech, Google should ban him from YouTube. Stop giving filth like this a platform to make a crap ton of money. But they won't because of greed, and he brings in a lot of money for them also.
It would really be refreshing if people and companies started doing what was right and good simply because it is the right thing to do.
When people are killing in your name, literally.....this shit has to stop.
Hint: "Good people" don't just go around "looking for a debate". There's a certain commonality behind the weird debate fetishists..
When you couch it as "I don't necessarily dislike his content, it's just that dang fanbase of his. (Who are still mostly just good people who love free speech and debate, by the way.)"
This whole thing with PewDiePie should be a lesson to parents that nothing of a racist/sexist/hateful/shitty nature should just be taken lightly and treated as a "kids will grow out of it" phase because they don't. You say that shit ironically for so long that it just becomes something you say/believe unironically pretty easily and quickly. PewDiePie's entire brand has been about saying this shit as a joke and the people that latched onto him don't take it as a joke, so the top Youtuber with millions and millions of followers pushing this shit should be something Youtube takes a hard look at about how they want to handle this insidious type of awful shit that comes with the videos that on face value look like harmless Let's Plays of games, but are not that far off from the typical neo nazi agenda-pushing videos that Youtube claims they're getting rid of. Youtube has a huge problem on their hands and they don't seem to want to make the hard choices for the sake of their advertisers that are continuously dropping like flies when they learn what they're really supporting.
Colin Moriarty jumping on the defense force frontlines is just hilarious because of course he'd insert himself into this whole thing.
Colin Moriarty jumping on the defense force frontlines is just hilarious because of course he'd insert himself into this whole thing.
I just found these pictures on here. Feel free to use them in a tweet yourself.
Heres hope the media will dig deeper into Pewdiepies content in the coming days to really bring to light how common the alt-right dogwhistles were in his content.
And I also think its necessary to really look into the shooters manifesto and compare it to the many right wing/alt-right talking points about muslims and immigration to show people how this stuff clearly inspires the hatred that leads to the violence we saw.
Edit: The last part should have already happened after Anders Breivik killed almost 80 kids in Norway.
His manifesto basically read like the average party program of Europes right wing populist parties.
Yet, despite clearly inspiring this violence, all they have to do is offering a half assed condemnation and they get away with it.
I already saw a member of the far right, anti-immigrant AfD blame the Christchurch attacks on leftists and environmentalists because apparently the shooter mentioned overpopulation(due to the high fertility rates in some non-white populations) as a problem and called himself and eco-fascist.
And, unsurprisingly, I already got a few twitter responses claiming the terrorist was "left wing".(probably based on that eco-stuff, because protecting the climate is apparently a left wing issue in some peoples minds)
The amount of damage control from the right that popped up in such a short period of time is astonishing. They know this is on them.
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Im taking about pewdiepie and is followers, what they follow is not the nazi philosophy.
User Banned (permanent): Downplaying hate speech
As far as I can tell from the bits of the manifesto I've gleened online from this sick fucks manifesto it seems the intention behind this terrorist attack was to cause division, to turn people against each other, much like any other act of terror. Included in the manifesto is ridiculous shit like ''spyro 3 taught me ethnocentrism'', this is all just to cause division the PewDiePie shit is irrelevant. Now you see here people talking about what jokes should and shouldn't be said when I believe that limiting what anyone can say in any capacity is dangerous.
"I hope you and your family dies. Death to the family of Hungry_Man!"
Please don't report me. It is dangerous to limit what I can say to you. It was just a joke! I swear!
No. A response isn't adequate if it means continuing business as usual, and for him, business as usual means flagrantly flirting with bigoted rhetoric and people. That's not what he needs to do. He needs to evaluate his ACTIONS as a whole, alter the course of his behavior, continuously acknowledge the impact of his previous actions, and actively curate his work to ensure that level of mainstream racism is never present again.
None of that will happen. He will continue to push his genuine bigotry to an energetic crowd of impressionable people in a platform that should have removed him two years ago, while introducing them to increasingly more extreme venues and figureheads that perpetuate hate.
If you go on /Pol/ where this asshole originated you can see these crazy people literally saying ''lol These memes will speed up the race war'' shouting out some YouTuber is no different from including the navy seal copy pasta in his manifesto it's all misdirection
Are you here to deny that PDP actively has been courting an alt-right audience and himself has engaged in hateful rhetoric, and that it's just a "coincidence" that the killer decided he would name him?
Also if you are actively browsing /pol/ no one should take you seriously. No one.
But what if he had said it to an audience of 80 million people and combined it with rhetoric about how "the family of hungry_man" will replace them and bring violence to their country and rape their wives and daughters?
why the lot of you come straight into this thread while ignoring everything said, there are plenty of marked posts that will tell you that we know that PDP isn't responsible for this tragedy but he is a alt right/nazi enabler nonetheless and his behavior feed this lunatics.
You need to read the whole thing. The worrying part of this whole thing is he is not crazy or disturbed or even full of hatred. He is sane, grounded and clear. This terrorist was even jovial, making jokes which the Spyro comment clearly was and noted as so. He was clear about what his 'jokes' were. His mention of PDP was not a joke. Whether he actually likes PDP or not is irrelevant. He knows alt-right nationalist are drawn to PDP whether that's by design or not.
Would be nice if YouTube could use this as a good reason to ban this sack of shit. Guess with his 89 million subscribers that would hit their bottom line.
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Colin Moriarty jumping on the defense force frontlines is just hilarious because of course he'd insert himself into this whole thing.[/QUOTE said:
Well the Nazi philosophy started out like this too, certain ciews were becoming normal and acceptable and it didn't happen overnight. That's a dangerous thing.
Here is a Twitter thread about him, it also contains this picture (need to click on the date for full thread):
I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong here, but I think that you cant say hes totally responsible that one of the 80 million people who subscribed to him got memed into believing that the joke was more than what it was. Now I haven't watched a lot of PewDiePie or anything but from what I've seen I assume it was said with tongue firmly in cheek.
Can you pm it to me, I thought all of it was basically him just trolling
How are we defining good people? I would say I know conservatives who are good people. They're my friends and family. The world of pop politicking has little to do with their day-in, day-out goings-on. The bigotry that finds its way into their politics is born of ignorance, and when they cross a life experience that contradicts their political model, they shed that ignorant belief.
No.
That is simply the ideal image of a role model example of the "Aryan race". A lot of Nazis weren't blonde or had blue eyes though, Hitler himself had dark brown hair.
The Nazi ideology is simply that Germanic peoples are the master race. That's all there is to it. They considered all Germanic/Nordic peoples to be superior, considered various other peoples to be a step below (French, British, several Mediterranean peoples such as Italians and Persians) but still good, and also respected Chinese and Japanese.
Subhumans included Jews, Roma/Sinti and Slavic peoples that were to be exterminated or expelled. They were targeting a specific group of peoples as being subhuman that were to be removed.
Obviously they used things like looks or names as determining factor whether someone was subhuman. But it wasn't just blonde, fair-skinned, blue-eyed and tall that was considered "Aryan" - it just was admirable traits.
And the thing is, even though today's alt-right/white supremacy does not condemn Slavs like the German Nazis did, it still follows the same footsteps, the same ideals, the same rhetoric, the same end goal - violence and genocide against those deemed subhuman. The only difference is that brown people have now taken the place of Slavs because Slavs are white, and Putin also is a very powerful and influential ally of these hatemonger groups.
What is the collective 'we'? I asked you for your opinion not the general consensus on the website
The site that I found it on had it taken down andI haven't found another yet. He most certainly wasn't trolling. He did make jokes, but he wanted to be very clear to not leave any questions behind his motives. He answered everything openly and honestly. I mean it all boils down to tribalism, traditions and other meaningless bullshit. He's a piece of garbage, but an honest one.
Oh buzz off with that. You got miffed when someone said Dr Seuss was more substantive than Jordan Peterson in a thread so its pretty clear what your motives are. Go back to 4/8chan.
It doesn't matter if his "tounge was in his cheek". PDP chooses to have that platform. Just because he isn't actually responsible for the actions of every single subscriber doesn't mean he doesn't have a duty to watch what he says. The reason we hold institutions like Fox News accountable is because they lie, misrepresent and spread the very fear that stokes the fire of bigotry. They light the match and wait for the fireworks. The reason Alex Jones is in hot water right now is because his reporting on Sandy Hook victims still produced a contingent who viciously went after them. He doesn't get to hide behind the fact that he was just saying stuff and isn't responsible for the actions of his viewers. The reason people call out Trump in the wake of his Charllottesville BS or calling Mexicans rapists or black countries shit holes is because that wide reach will end up reinforcing the beliefs of bigots. In PDP's case his "Death to all Jews" bs is not a "joke". Claiming it's tongue and cheek is simply a dodge. There's no joke there. There's no other layers. There isn't any depth beyond the fact that the genocide of Jewish people is something funny. Putting that out to millions is fucking irresponsible and gross. This is without even going into how it affects Jewish viewers. Are they supposed to laugh? I certianly wouldn't be laughing if there was a sign around saying "I want to lynch black people". Something so base makes it a prime target to be internalized by people who are already bigoted.
This is not, nor has it ever, been true. Ever.
Like, it's been scientifically proven that when confronted with a reality that does not conform to their world view, they do not actually learn, they retreat even further into their beliefs.
Conservative politics, for at least the last 40 years, has had bigotry as it's base and driving instinct. That is the defining trait.
You cannot hold the president, those who claim to be sources of news and a YouTuber who's primary content is playing video games to the same standard in regards to watching what they say.
You people need to rewrite the script, this shit is a dead giveaway.
"Let me guess they don't hate minorities! They just want lower taxes"?
PDP has more subscribers than some countries have citizens.
He literally has more followers than actual heads of states.
If anything he should be held to an even higher standard.
Pro tip don't start by defending someone that does alt right memes for lulz. You are just no different than anyone else defending him not out of ignorance but out of intentional malice just to fuck up the discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4&t=2s
Conservatives are those who aim to defend the status quo and the privileged few who benefit from it. By definition, conservatives are detrimental to a just and equal society.
All conservatives can get fucked for all i care.