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Montresor

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Oct 27, 2017
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he pushes that "triggered feminist" bullshit.

macrumors does this. i think they use some old ass software tho
He's a dirtbag too. Not on the level of the others though.

Do you guys have examples? I watched H3H3 videos for years, along with Ethan And Hila videos. Never saw anything actually offensive or that could be conflated with alt-right or white supremacist ideologies.

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is there is a video about a woman complaining about air conditioning (which might be what Quote is referring to) - but that's a funny video and isn't mean-spirited, or shitty, or alt-right, etc...
 

rjinaz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Phoenix
I'm starting to think if junior accounts should be banned from posting on certain threads. I'm wondering if the forum software would support that?
A lot of these people sit on these accounts for months.
If we're talking minimum post account, they'll just shit post or low effort post all over the site just to hit the minimum and that would actually be worse for the overall forum.
 

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Do you guys have examples? I watched H3H3 videos for years, along with Ethan And Hila videos. Never saw anything actually offensive or that could be conflated with alt-right or white supremacist ideologies.

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is there is a video about a woman complaining about air conditioning - but that's a funny video and isn't mean-spirited, or shitty, or alt-right, etc...
I haven't watched him in years but I do know he's had Jordan Peterson on his podcast a couple times.
 

Fat4all

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Do you guys have examples? I watched H3H3 videos for years, along with Ethan And Hila videos. Never saw anything actually offensive or that could be conflated with alt-right or white supremacist ideologies.

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is there is a video about a woman complaining about air conditioning (which might be what Quote is referring to) - but that's a funny video and isn't mean-spirited, or shitty, or alt-right, etc...
There was the Wall Street Journal thing as well, where he stanchly became similar to PDP when it came to the "Media", and his podcast regularly having shitheels on as guests
 

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Do you guys have examples? I watched H3H3 videos for years, along with Ethan And Hila videos. Never saw anything actually offensive or that could be conflated with alt-right or white supremacist ideologies.

The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is there is a video about a woman complaining about air conditioning (which might be what Quote is referring to) - but that's a funny video and isn't mean-spirited, or shitty, or alt-right, etc...
it's over on the old forum, haven't kept up with this shit since then and don't plan to. i just know he always flirts with the alt-right
 

SecondNature

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Oct 25, 2017
15,154
Hey. Here's some shit Felix has done;

-Said the N Word on video
-Amplified the youtube channel of a white supremacist
-Performed the heil salute on video
-paid people to hold up a sign that said "death to all jews"
-surrounds himself with alt right scum of the earth

In doing so he has signal boosted white supremacist rhetoric to a generation that doesn't even realize they're being manipulated. Like yourself for example.

Says person who created an account to talk shit and defend their millionaire idol. Just think about that for a minute, really think about it.

Not to split hairs, but I was told the heil salute was misrepresented and it was actually a picture of him pointing at something on his screen. Does anyone have a video of this?
 

Fat4all

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it's over on the old forum, haven't kept up
with this shit since then and don't plan to
Ethan is just a smarter, more popular version of Boogie

He's an opportunist to the alt-right scene, but doesn't usually make an ass of himself on social media like Boogie does
 

Garlic

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Oct 28, 2017
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if they did go through the normal waiting process and just have 50+ accounts , a stack that they basically can pull from when they start getting banned. Trolls have that much pathetic dedication to stirring the pot.

I remember back when Cracked had a forum they had a troll that created literally thousands of accounts in order to send the writers threats. Some people have incredible monomania.
 

Slushimi

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User Banned (Two Weeks): Downplaying hate speech, inflammatory generalizations of a nation, use of ableist slur
*edit* By looking back what I said, I take it back. Didn't see that he was following those type of people. My mistake.
 
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saenima

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Oct 25, 2017
11,892
I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.

'He's from sweden', hadn't heard that one in a while. Going back to the classics i see.

And bonus points for the ableism. Good show.

Read.the.threadmarks.
 

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I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.
You guys aren't good at this. Just stop.
 

SolidChamp

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Oct 27, 2017
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I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.

How old are you, honestly?
 

bluepolicebox

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Oct 27, 2017
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I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.

This is the most honest thing you said...
 

L Thammy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.

I like how in your attempt to calmly present us as the bad guys and PewDiePie as a poor fool, you still can't help but drop an ableist slur.
 

L Thammy

Spacenoid
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Oct 25, 2017
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At least he's just a genuine PDP stan.

I mean I am in a minority my self and despise the far right but I could see that Pewdiepie didn't notice the references. Not saying I'm excusing it, he should do research before promoting channels given the size of his channel, but I could see how he didn't notice it. I watched the videos in question and even with the mindset that there were Nazi references, I didn't catch them. Either way he fucked up big time and I'm not looking at him at a positive light after his previous debacles and this incident. You gotta be careful with this shit man, there are a lot of children watching and they get easily influenced.
 

Imran

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Oct 24, 2017
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Here, have a slightly more comprehensive list, put together by yours truly:
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It's like a bulleted list of people the alt-right report my tweets to.
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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I only have 1 post on this forum whose rules I seem incredibly ignorant on and I may have never met PDP but I've watched a lot of his videos for a few years and I'm sure because he's funny and foreign that he can't be a bad person. You're all the bad people for not letting him whistle at dogs or laugh at memes!
 

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'i've been watching him since 2012' and 'he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words'

you think it's acceptable to not learn this very basic thing over the 7 years you've been watching him?

you want us to believe this? try harder.
 
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saenima

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Oct 25, 2017
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I only have 1 post on this forum whose rules I seem incredibly ignorant on and I may have never met PDP but I've watched a lot of his videos for a few years and I'm sure because he's funny and foreign that he can't be a bad person. You're all the bad people for not letting him whistle at dogs or laugh at memes!

Let me cast my leftist hatred and cultural marxism aside so we can engage in an intellectual debate about the positives of ethno-nationalism and why racist memes are the best thing since dogs learned to whistle!
 

fontguy

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Oct 8, 2018
16,150
I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.
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L Thammy

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It's like a bulleted list of people the alt-right report my tweets to.
I was debating with myself whether to ask you, but have you considered writing a thing about PewDiePie's history of association with white nationalists, normalization of their rhetoric, his misogynistic comments, and such? I feel like this the time to push for a conversation about these things, but I also understand that this is a hornet's nest.

I'll ask jschreier the same question as well.
 

mutantmagnet

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Oct 28, 2017
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This is the most honest thing you said...
Haha. Wow. I had glossed over that.


So many people tripping themselves up trying to defend PDP.

I don't even get the point. Once a thread hits double digit pages it isn't worth your time trying to derail the topic.

If you want white supremacy to spread you can only hope the sentiment is contained in here and doesn't hit reddit or twitter.
 

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I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.
Going by your post history, you're Muslim? If that's the case, then you really remind me of this black kid defending Pewdiepie when he used the N word (starting @8:58):
 

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Quick litmus test for following media personalities: if they ever use "feminism" as a slur (even as a joke unless the joke is that they are idiots for doing so), bail the fuck out.

oh man there are so many words that are Instant identifiers of people you need to ignore

SJW
Feminist
Socialist
marxist
cuck
globalist
chad/stacy
NPC
Regressive
safe space
snowflake
triggered
 

Imran

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Oct 24, 2017
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I was debating with myself whether to ask you, but have you considered writing a thing about PewDiePie's history of association with white nationalists, normalization of their rhetoric, his misogynistic comments, and such? I feel like this the time to push for a conversation about these things, but I also understand that this is a hornet's nest.

I'll ask jschreier the same question as well.
It's being considered. It's a bit of a tough thing with so many shitty people irons in the fire right now and GDC coming up, which means my entire week is booked, but it's a thing I'm thinking about. Sadly most of the audience just straight up doesn't consider "this person plays games and says or does bad things" to be relevant to gaming news.
 

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'i've been watching him since 2012' and 'he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words'

you think it's acceptable to not learn this very basic thing over the 7 years you've been watching him?

you want us to believe this? try harder.

That's the thing, these defenders seem to think (or pretend) that this clown deserves to get a free pass because he's just a foreign edgelord even though at, what, 29 years old & over a half decade of being "famous" he still needs to apologize every few months for doing something racist or bigoted or signal boosting a racist or a bigot. Then they pretend we're the irrational ones because we don't accept his numerous apologies when the issue is that he's had to apologize so often for this kind of shit.
 

Arttemis

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Oct 28, 2017
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oh man there are so many words that are Instant identifiers of people you need to ignore

SJW
Feminist
Socialist
marxist
cuck
globalist
chad/stacy
NPC
Regressive
safe space
snowflake
triggered
Virtue signaling should be added to the list. The entire premise behind that as a pejorative is as mind boggling as SJW. Decrying the act of promoting virtues or justice...
 

lunarworks

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really get the appeal of defending someone who is a stranger. This person clearly is either obsessed with racist and terrible people or I might even say that he is a racist and a terrible person based on his behavior. But again, why defend him? Is this person your intimate friend that you know their private lives and their secrets? Most of these racist people are closet racist until they out themselves.
People who attach an unhealthy amount of their personal identity to a celebrity, no matter the field or the size, will feel any attack on that celebrity as an attack on themselves.
 

Alexhex

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Oct 27, 2017
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The thing I never understand is, if you wanna talk about videogame AND also sympathize with the alt-right or hate women or whatever, why come here? Almost every other game forum has your back. Just stirring the pot I guess? But even then there are sites that are much easier to get on to haha
 

L Thammy

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It's being considered. It's a bit of a tough thing with so many shitty people irons in the fire right now and GDC coming up, which means my entire week is booked, but it's a thing I'm thinking about. Sadly most of the audience just straight up doesn't consider "this person plays games and says or does bad things" to be relevant to gaming news.

Makes sense, thanks for responding.

Just in you do end up going through with it, I'd like to remind you of his feud with Alinity, which seems like it contains the most damning evidence that he actually shares/utilizes beliefs with this sphere and doesn't just hang around with them for attention or for shits and giggles.

 

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I honestly don't think PDP is a bad person at heart based on me watching his video's on and off since 2012, but I can say that he is retarded. He has dark humor and says things that are generally not acceptable but I think he doesn't at times know the consequences of his actions and words. If that is because of his upbringing in Sweden or something else, I do not know. In no way do I condemn his actions, but with me watching him for so long I can only give you what I think his way of thinking is. From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video. His fanbase is way too big and there are a lot of children in it. Educating them on why this meme culture he created and more is not acceptable is the right thing to do at this point. Also, the hate you give the guy is somewhat justified, but it does get a bit extreme in this thread.
counterpoint: pdp is a racist and white supremacist and only doesn't go full 1488 because he wants to retain some amount of plausible deniability while he leads an entire generation of impressionable youth into full fascism
 
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Sinder

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i keep seeing this reddit post pop up in "defense" of pewdiepie
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like, its complete nonsense, right?

edit: should probably clarify; i want to either debunk this or at least have something to say in response to it because
1) finding the manifesto at all to even see if there's a source to this claim is hard
2) it is complete nonsense. the problem is it is an easy way to reframe the entire pewdiepie argument as something that the terrorist wants and thats bad
3) even if it was completely true, pewdiepie should still be held somewhat responsible as he never bothered to distance himself away from the alt-right

Fuck these stupid Reddit motherfuckers. He gives himself away putting "problematic" in quotes. As if it's a big conspiracy and PDP is actually a great person.
 

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It's being considered. It's a bit of a tough thing with so many shitty people irons in the fire right now and GDC coming up, which means my entire week is booked, but it's a thing I'm thinking about. Sadly most of the audience just straight up doesn't consider "this person plays games and says or does bad things" to be relevant to gaming news.
If you write anything, i'll read it and share it.
 

saenima

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Oct 25, 2017
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The thing I never understand is, if you wanna talk about videogame AND also sympathize with the alt-right or hate women or whatever, why come here? Almost every other game forum has your back. Just stirring the pot I guess? But even then there are sites that are much easier to get on to haha

The same reason many straight white men enter panic mode once something is not entirely about them over everyone else. These losers could have 99% of the internet pandering exclusively to them but once a single site tries to be welcoming to everybody else as well as them they lose their shit and throw a hissy fit. They are literally selfish and ignorant children, many of them trapped in adult bodies.
 

RecLib

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Oct 27, 2017
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That is a real damning list of twitters he follows in the thread marks.
 
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Fat4all

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"he doesn't know any better, he's from Sweden"

who lives in the UK and has a massive audience in America

"he's retarded"

jesus did we just warp back to 2012
 

Alexhex

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Oct 27, 2017
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The same reason many straight white men enter panic mode once something is not entirely about them over everyone else. These losers could have 99% of the internet pandering exclusively to them but once a single site tries to be welcoming to everybody else as well as them they lose their shit and throw a hissy fit. They are literally selfish and ignorant children, many of them trapped in adult bodies.
Yeah, that's a really good way of framing it. It's a space where marginalized folks are welcome so of course it gets lashed out at for the same reasons people are for just existing
 

RoaminRonin

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Nov 6, 2017
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From this point on wards though, every real mistake he makes now is totally on him. He should address this incident and other things in a video.

All those pass racist mistakes were fake mistakes, they don't count. I'm willing to bet you PDP fans will give him a mulligan for his next "mistake" and the one after that, and even more after that.