Website as well, thanks
Website as well, thanks
That's PDP this time around.
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
Ah verified Ben, unfortunate. Should have read the thread.This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
Not a fan of pewdiepie at all, but this thread right now reads honestly like a extremist hate forum for Nazis or something..
Banned.This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
But you can blame him for not completely distancing himself by the utter and complete condemnation of Neo Nazi's and White Supremacy right?This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
I would hope someone that writes for a living would know to read before chiming in on something. Everything is laid out in the OP and via threadmarks.This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
DudeThis is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
---This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
PDP didn't commit any violence. He contributes to the rhetoric and the perpetuation of the culture that produces violent offenders. By pretending things like Nazism are laughing matters he breeds people who buy into the rhetoric, spread it, reinforce it and galvanize those who commit this kind of violence. By not admonishing the people in those groups who see him as a fucking hero, he continues a trend that already exists of people seeing that it's OK to stick to your beliefs about the inferiority of "undesirable" people. PDP had a simple job: Make sure that people watching his videos understand that white supremacy is wrong, bigotry is sick and equality is something that should be sought by everyone. Something that should be simple if you actually understand the stakes of what is going on, have empathy and are actually invested in bettering the world but he chose to double down time and time again. There is no single through line from PDP to this mass shooter but PDP contributes to the pitcher of water that makes up the kool-aid that people just like these maniacs drink from. Just like Alex Jones & Beitbart & Milo Y. & Richard Spencer, and on.
It's pretty fucking sad tbh.I would hope someone that writes for a living would know to read before chiming in on something. Everything is laid out in the OP and via threadmarks.
Your whole rational is severely flawed with this thinking that people responding to THQ's actions are the cause. THQ is a professional company that represents a portion of the gaming world, in an official capacity. They come out and say they are hosting an AMA where child porn is posted, and now evidently mass murderers congregate, is news that needs to be called out. If everyone ignored that type of behavior, whole portions of the internet would exist in solitude from the rest of the world where the hate would grow without any check on it. So yeah, your logic is shit.
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
Those underlines sure made it seem like you were backing up these claims. Anyone have sources that fully cover any of the above claims?I sometimes get the feeling that there are a lot of people out there who feel like they've accomplished something in the fight against bigotry by somehow going their entire lives without setting fire to a synagogue, and when they see someone like PewDiePie getting flack for silly little things like a pattern of behaviour years long of boosting figures associated with white supremacy, using slurs and white supremacy imagery himself in entertainment for teenagers, and then attacking the media for criticizing him for it, these people then have to rush to defend him else they themselves be proven not to be the valiant champions of the weak that they thought they were.
Coming from a verified writer... Yikes. Please inform yourself before posting.This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
Are you really gonna double down on this fucking notion that we should all ignore when a goddamn publisher hosts an official ama on a child porn site. Like, enjoy the fucking hill. Sick of this shit. It's like Trump tonight posting links to breitbart in regards to the news, you know, the Muslim loving breitbart. We should ignore that. Can't spread it, just the president!How has 8chan been "checked?" As far as I know, the site is still up, it still has the same membership and is unlikely to be shut down. The only result of its increased exposure is more attention and likely more membership. Nordic is fully responsible for hosting the AMA on 8chan and from an ethical standpoint, they should be called out on it. However, 8chan got a lot of free advertising because people spread the news about the AMA. It's a double-edged sword. That's why I said it's good to have ideals but also understand the repercussions of fighting for them.
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
I read threadmark, he is right.This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
K see yaI read threadmark, he is right.
I am ashame of you resetera. ban me idk.
Dont want to associate to you lunatics anymore.
...and cites Candace Owens and PewDiePie in his manifesto as inspirations.
dualshockers huhThis is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
I certainly blame those people, yes. And on top of that, I can also blame the people that help to inspire then to actually commit such hateful attacks in the first place by spreading hateful rhetoric and ideologies. Such as, in this case, people like PewDiePie and Candace Owens. Ignoring then isn't going to make that go eat or change anything. That will only lead to the spread of more hate. They need to be completely deplatformed and lose their voices, or else it's only a matter of time before more incidents like this happens.Let's not combat hate with more hate, which only enlarges the differences. I remember a certain individual that wouldn't even condemn the correct party after he was pressured immensly globally, now there's your enabler for some real shit who actively supports these kind of people without an afterthought, at least here we have an effort where one distances oneself, better than nothing I guess?
Let's blame the one holding the gun and the people enabling people to use these devices of hate.
I know, we are crazy for denouncing 49 muslims being killed because of the spread of hate speech at every corner of the internet to young impressionable minds. Enjoy the ban.I read threadmark, he is right.
I am ashame of you resetera. ban me idk.
Dont want to associate to you lunatics anymore.
Motherfucker with a massive platform who had subtly and not-so-subtly linked to vile extremist propaganda, and is directly referenced by the perpetrator on video, and you're wondering why he's being associated with this?This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
"you should all ignore the bad things until it goes away, it how it works folks."How has 8chan been "checked?" As far as I know, the site is still up, it still has the same membership and is unlikely to be shut down. The only result of its increased exposure is more attention and likely more membership. Nordic is fully responsible for hosting the AMA on 8chan and from an ethical standpoint, they should be called out on it. However, 8chan got a lot of free advertising because people spread the news about the AMA. It's a double-edged sword. That's why I said it's good to have ideals but also understand the repercussions of fighting for them.
PewDiePie calling someone the N word: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-a-youtube-livestream/?utm_term=.ff2b0bec1f75Those underlines sure made it seem like you were backing up these claims. Anyone have sources that fully cover any of the above claims?
Yep. Pewdiepie gets away with everything because of his numbers, but if YouTube and Google were serious at all (which we know they aren't) they would remove his channel.
How has 8chan been "checked?" As far as I know, the site is still up, it still has the same membership and is unlikely to be shut down. The only result of its increased exposure is more attention and likely more membership. Nordic is fully responsible for hosting the AMA on 8chan and from an ethical standpoint, they should be called out on it. However, 8chan got a lot of free advertising because people spread the news about the AMA. It's a double-edged sword. That's why I said it's good to have ideals but also understand the repercussions of fighting for them.
I read threadmark, he is right.
I am ashame of you resetera. ban me idk.
Dont want to associate to you lunatics anymore.
Are you really gonna double down on this fucking notion that we should all ignore when a goddamn publisher hosts an official ama on a child porn site. Like, enjoy the fucking hill. Sick of this shit. It's like Trump tonight posting links to breitbart in regards to the news, you know, the Muslim loving breitbart. We should ignore that. Can't spread it, just the president!
Not a fan of pewdiepie at all, but this thread right now reads honestly like a extremist hate forum for nazi's or something.. The hatred and vitriol here is pretty unsettling. Why are you all acting like the people you're so against?
You really should ignore Trump's tweets. You'll be a happier person.
Those underlines sure made it seem like you were backing up these claims. Anyone have sources that fully cover any of the above claims?
VoxYouTube's most popular user is once again facing backlash — this time for promoting a highly anti-Semitic channel by recommending a video featuring a racial slur and a white supremacist conspiracy.
With 76 million subscribers, gaming vlogger PewDiePie, a.k.a. Felix Kjellberg, is the most popular individual on YouTube. In a since-edited video posted on December 9, he recommended several YouTube channels he said he'd been enjoying recently. One of those channels is called "E;R," and PewDiePie lauded its "great video essays," including "one on [the Netflix movie] Death Note which I really enjoyed." He also linked to the channel in his video description. (The recommendation has since been edited out of the video.)
To casual observers, PewDiePie's support of E;R may have appeared harmless — one YouTube user supporting another. But a more-than-cursory dive into the channel would have revealed several instances of disturbing imagery, slurs, and white supremacist messaging. E;R's creator even refers to his reputation as a racist in the channel's FAQ.
The outcry against PewDiePie's recommendation of the channel was immediate, with media outlets and other YouTube users citing it as an example of PewDiePie flirting with alt-right culture and sending a dangerous message to his millions of followers, many of whom are teenagers.
In response, PewDiePie released a follow-up video on December 11 in which he described the incident as an "oopsie" and scoffed at the idea that he was promoting anti-Semitism by merely "recommending someone for their anime review."
"All I said was I like this guy's anime review," PewDiePie says in the video. "[The channel creator] apparently likes to have hidden and not-so-hidden Nazi references in his videos and obviously if I noticed that I wouldn't have referenced him in the shoutout."
PewDiePie also referred to several past incidents that sparked a similar outcry: a video in which he performed a Nazi "heil" salute, and one in which he hired a pair of performers from a freelancer website to hold up a sign reading "Death to all Jews." He said these examples were satirical, but many observers condemned them as anti-Semitic.
"I said publicly a year and a half ago that I was going to distance myself from Nazi jokes and that kind of stuff, because I want nothing to do with it," PewDiePie explained. Generally, I've done that. I don't really have a reason to dip into that again — it's just stupid."
But each of the three videos that PewDiePie featured in his since-removed shoutout of the E;R channel featured fairly obvious examples of the channel's offensive content — in fact, not only did part one of the Death Note review that PewDiePie said he liked directly invoke a racial slur in its video description (the description has since been edited), but the first 15 seconds of part two contain a reference to a 2017 incident in which PewDiePie himself dropped a racial slur, strategically edited but unmissable if you're familiar with the clip in question — which most of PewDiePie's followers would reasonably be.
Should PewDiePie have known better? His critics say yes; though he has been dismissive about the uproar, this is not the first time he has appeared to flirt with alt-right beliefs, and he's previously faced backlash for this type of incident many times.
PewDiePie calling someone the N word: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-a-youtube-livestream/?utm_term=.ff2b0bec1f75
PewDiePie paying people to hold up a sign that says "Death to all Jews": https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ie-thinks-death-to-all-jews-joke-laughing-yet
PewDiePie doing a collab with Ben Shapiro: https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/1813...-links-to-white-supremacist-alt-right-redpill
Do I need to go on?
oh, so your actual response IS to ignore Trump, the president of the USA.You really should ignore Trump's tweets. You'll be a happier person.
Should've used an alt.This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
You really should ignore Trump's tweets. You'll be a happier person.
2020 will take the toll. It wont be pretty. I feel the textbooks havent been written on how to handle the fuckery to come.thank you to the mods and admins policing this thread and taking out the trash