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PewDiePie attempts to distance himself from Christchurch Mosque shooter who pledged support (READ THREADMARKS)
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User Banned (Permanent): Dismissing role of influencer who promotes hate speech. Ban extended after review.
This is PewDiePie's fault how? You can keep blaming attacks on anything other what actually starts them but this is a whole other level of what?
Has he commented again yet utterly lambasting/decrying neo Nazis and white supremacists? Because wtf if not.
How about reading the thread....heck, or the OP and threadmarks.
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But you can blame him for not completely distancing himself by the utter and complete condemnation of Neo Nazi's and White Supremacy right?
he should have done this multiple times by now. But hasn't.
I would hope someone that writes for a living would know to read before chiming in on something. Everything is laid out in the OP and via threadmarks.
I support deplatforming firmly. Deplatforming works by enough people forcing platforms to deplatform.
And how do we get enough people to do that? By not pretending the abuse isn't happening, but by banding together, pointing out what the problem is, and then acting on it.
Quiet does not deplatform. Talking about it, grouping together, andacting does.
How has 8chan been "checked?" As far as I know, the site is still up, it still has the same membership and is unlikely to be shut down. The only result of its increased exposure is more attention and likely more membership. Nordic is fully responsible for hosting the AMA on 8chan and from an ethical standpoint, they should be called out on it. However, 8chan got a lot of free advertising because people spread the news about the AMA. It's a double-edged sword. That's why I said it's good to have ideals but also understand the repercussions of fighting for them.
*a videogame journo*
'you mean words have consequences? are you guys crazy?'
Way to go.
He has been making fun of the leftist and making friends with the right wings for far too long, even '' If '' he has no ill intentions he still gathered a lot of actual racists and sexists on his side. His views might not be completely alt-right but it's he is definitely leaning towards that side.
He's like a 14 years old teenager who thinks those slightly racist internet jokes are just harmless memes, until he finds out that there're actual hate groups behind those jokes.
The fact is, he has been attracting hate groups unintentionally for years, he has become a living pepe, whether he likes it or not.
For example, his ''Death to all jews'' joke might be ''funny'' among edgy immature teens who think Nazis are a thing of the past, but to actual Neo-Nazis it's music to their ears.
He's like a 14 years old teenager who thinks those slightly racist internet jokes are just harmless memes, until he finds out that there're actual hate groups behind those jokes.
The fact is, he has been attracting hate groups unintentionally for years, he has become a living pepe, whether he likes it or not.
For example, his ''Death to all jews'' joke might be ''funny'' among edgy immature teens who think Nazis are a thing of the past, but to actual Neo-Nazis it's music to their ears.
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If you are entering this thread with the thought "I wonder why everyone is so mad?" then you need to understand that this is very much the right time for people to be angry. The death toll is high, we have a big name like Pewdiepie as one of this guys "inspiration" and throughout the past few years Pewdiepie has created content that is racist and irresponsible with no genuine apology and not standing out against said content. He is a voice for millions of children out there watching his content and those that will be inspired by him.
Did he pull the trigger here? No he did not. However his platform is a negative impact to some degree and tends to cater to a fanbase who is mostly toxic. We need him to change but he has never done that.
Did he pull the trigger here? No he did not. However his platform is a negative impact to some degree and tends to cater to a fanbase who is mostly toxic. We need him to change but he has never done that.
I believe he's linked to right wing extremist media in the past. It's rather telling that a shooter would big him up before going on the rampage would you not think?
Those underlines sure made it seem like you were backing up these claims. Anyone have sources that fully cover any of the above claims?
Coming from a verified writer... Yikes. Please inform yourself before posting.
Are you really gonna double down on this fucking notion that we should all ignore when a goddamn publisher hosts an official ama on a child porn site. Like, enjoy the fucking hill. Sick of this shit. It's like Trump tonight posting links to breitbart in regards to the news, you know, the Muslim loving breitbart. We should ignore that. Can't spread it, just the president!
Am I at least allowed to blame him for having "Death to all jews" signs? Or is this somehow also mean and cruel to poor, poor PDP?
Or how about him signal boosting and spreading an outright antisemitic nazi in December of 2018, roughly... *checks notes* 3 Months ago, *after* he supposedly learned his lesson with the sign? This isn't the distant past.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying Hate Speech
I read threadmark, he is right.
I am ashame of you resetera. ban me idk.
Dont want to associate to you lunatics anymore.
So this information from the OT is false then. Manifesto mentions Owens and Trump. Pewdiepie isn't in any "manisfesto".
When I googled "PewDiePie White supremacy", this was the first thing that came up
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/1813...-links-to-white-supremacist-alt-right-redpill
I have a vague idea of the shit he did, didn't know a lot of it.
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/1813...-links-to-white-supremacist-alt-right-redpill
I have a vague idea of the shit he did, didn't know a lot of it.
I certainly blame those people, yes. And on top of that, I can also blame the people that help to inspire then to actually commit such hateful attacks in the first place by spreading hateful rhetoric and ideologies. Such as, in this case, people like PewDiePie and Candace Owens. Ignoring then isn't going to make that go eat or change anything. That will only lead to the spread of more hate. They need to be completely deplatformed and lose their voices, or else it's only a matter of time before more incidents like this happens.
I blame the murderers in these incidents yes, I blame firearms, and I blame those that spread hateful ideologies that lead to these attacks happening in the first place due to then bring poisoned by such hate and rhetoric and ending up agreeing with it. I can blame all the things simultaneously as they each have their own respective roles in leading to attacks like this and there's no reading I shouldn't, not if the goal is to stop stuff like this from happening again as best as we are actually able to anyway. Ignoring any piece of the story, any of these pieces if the puzzle does no one any good if the goal is to actually stop these tragedies from repeating as best as we're able.
So yes, of course I will blame the murderer. Of course I'll blame guns. But I'll blame people like PewDiePie for the respective roles they had in incidents like this as well as to ignore that does no one any good either, not if the goal is to try and prevent these tragedies from happening again anyway.
I know, we are crazy for denouncing 49 muslims being killed because of the spread of hate speech at every corner of the internet to young impressionable minds. Enjoy the ban.
Motherfucker with a massive platform who had subtly and not-so-subtly linked to vile extremist propaganda, and is directly referenced by the perpetrator on video, and you're wondering why he's being associated with this?
Are you seriously this fucking dense?
"you should all ignore the bad things until it goes away, it how it works folks."
PDP N word usage, "Death to all Jews", collaboration with Ben Shapiro
PewDiePie calling someone the N word: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-a-youtube-livestream/?utm_term=.ff2b0bec1f75
PewDiePie paying people to hold up a sign that says "Death to all Jews": https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ie-thinks-death-to-all-jews-joke-laughing-yet
PewDiePie doing a collab with Ben Shapiro: https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/1813...-links-to-white-supremacist-alt-right-redpill
Do I need to go on?
Yep. Pewdiepie gets away with everything because of his numbers, but if YouTube and Google were serious at all (which we know they aren't) they would remove his channel.
He should have been removed half a dozen infractions ago
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You just doubled down on "the media is equally to blame", which is some Trump-tier bullshit I have no interest in even entertaining. THQ Nordic is the entity responsible for creating the news, news sites report on the news.
This fucking forum sometimes. Man.
You will find your kind in 4chan, 8chan or Stormfront. Enjoy your hate while it lasts.
You really should ignore Trump's tweets. You'll be a happier person.
LMAOOOO WHAT IS THIS POST????
I can attest to this. My happiness levels have skyrocketed ever since I stopped checking Trump's tweets.
oh, so your actual response IS to ignore Trump, the president of the USA.
Fucking genius over here folks.
Thanks to the mods for upholding the same standards for all users and banning that verified writer guy.
Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. You sure can ignore problems when they aren't affecting you, though.
You know who can't ignore it? People directly affected by Trumps actions in their daily lives. It's fairly difficult to ignore the president of the united states while he's in the business of making your life worse on purpose because, say, you're a LGBTQ person, a woman, a non-white person, or even a journalist...
2020 will take the toll. It wont be pretty. I feel the textbooks havent been written on how to handle the fuckery to come.