In what world is calling someone a white supremacist role model defending them?Okay, do you need me to sign something to agree to your forum debate rules before I can call you out for defending Ben fucking Shapiro?
In what world is calling someone a white supremacist role model defending them?
If you were to look at the vast majority you would see that most of his viewers are good people and people just looking for a debate.
When you couch it as "I don't necessarily dislike his content, it's just that dang fanbase of his. (Who are still mostly just good people who love free speech and debate, by the way.)"In what world is calling someone a white supremacist role model defending them?
I just found these pictures on here. Feel free to use them in a tweet yourself.Is there a tweet with this being passed around? I'd like to retweet it.
Which is... basically the same thing I said. Might I ask why you think people don't understand the Nazi philosophy?
nah fam.this is all just to cause division the PewDiePie shit is irrelevant.
As far as I can tell from the bits of the manifesto I've gleened online from this sick fucks manifesto it seems the intention behind this terrorist attack was to cause division, to turn people against each other, much like any other act of terror. Included in the manifesto is ridiculous shit like ''spyro 3 taught me ethnocentrism'', this is all just to cause division the PewDiePie shit is irrelevant. Now you see here people talking about what jokes should and shouldn't be said when I believe that limiting what anyone can say in any capacity is dangerous.
No. A response isn't adequate if it means continuing business as usual, and for him, business as usual means flagrantly flirting with bigoted rhetoric and people. That's not what he needs to do. He needs to evaluate his ACTIONS as a whole, alter the course of his behavior, continuously acknowledge the impact of his previous actions, and actively curate his work to ensure that level of mainstream racism is never present again.(this is why I'm starting to like this site)
That makes perfect sense, and he does need to make a full response to what has happened.
If you go on /Pol/ where this asshole originated you can see these crazy people literally saying ''lol These memes will speed up the race war'' shouting out some YouTuber is no different from including the navy seal copy pasta in his manifesto it's all misdirection
that's not the point and you know it.If you go on /Pol/ where this asshole originated you can see these crazy people literally saying ''lol These memes will speed up the race war'' shouting out some YouTuber is no different from including the navy seal copy pasta in his manifesto it's all misdirection
You can say that to me it's okay."I hope you and your family dies. Death to the family of Hungry_Man!"
Please don't report me. It is dangerous to limit what I can say to you. It was just a joke! I swear!
If you go on /Pol/ where this asshole originated you can see these crazy people literally saying ''lol These memes will speed up the race war'' shouting out some YouTuber is no different from including the navy seal copy pasta in his manifesto it's all misdirection
What do you believe the point is?
But what if he had said it to an audience of 80 million people and combined it with rhetoric about how "the family of hungry_man" will replace them and bring violence to their country and rape their wives and daughters?
why the lot of you come straight into this thread while ignoring everything said, there are plenty of marked posts that will tell you that we know that PDP isn't responsible for this tragedy but he is a alt right/nazi enabler nonetheless and his behavior feed this lunatics.
As far as I can tell from the bits of the manifesto I've gleened online from this sick fucks manifesto it seems the intention behind this terrorist attack was to cause division, to turn people against each other, much like any other act of terror. Included in the manifesto is ridiculous shit like ''spyro 3 taught me ethnocentrism'', this is all just to cause division the PewDiePie shit is irrelevant. Now you see here people talking about what jokes should and shouldn't be said when I believe that limiting what anyone can say in any capacity is dangerous.
And just for the sake of it. Here's some videos going into why the multiple people on this list of follows are scumbags who perpetuate hate, bigotry and white supremacy:
From Three Arrows on:
Ben Sharpio
Jordan Peterson
From Shaun on:
Stephan Molyneux
Lauren Southern: 1 & 2
Paul Joseph Watson: 1 & 2
General Alt-Right All-Stars
From H.Bomberguy on:
Various
and just for the hell of it PDP himself
From ContraPoints on:
Various & More
I could post more and probably will after a bit of breakfast. But this already is just the surface scrapings of the depths that PDP's posse sinks to.
Colin Moriarty jumping on the defense force frontlines is just hilarious because of course he'd insert himself into this whole thing.[/QUOTE said:Colin Moriarty..now that's a name I haven't heard in forever. Checked his twitter to find out that I'm blocked by him for some 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️.
Seriously?As far as I can tell from the bits of the manifesto I've gleened online from this sick fucks manifesto it seems the intention behind this terrorist attack was to cause division, to turn people against each other, much like any other act of terror. Included in the manifesto is ridiculous shit like ''spyro 3 taught me ethnocentrism'', this is all just to cause division the PewDiePie shit is irrelevant. Now you see here people talking about what jokes should and shouldn't be said when I believe that limiting what anyone can say in any capacity is dangerous.
Well the Nazi philosophy started out like this too, certain ciews were becoming normal and acceptable and it didn't happen overnight. That's a dangerous thing.Im taking about pewdiepie and is followers, what they follow is not the nazi philosophy.
Is there a tweet with this being passed around? I'd like to retweet it.
I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong here, but I think that you cant say hes totally responsible that one of the 80 million people who subscribed to him got memed into believing that the joke was more than what it was. Now I haven't watched a lot of PewDiePie or anything but from what I've seen I assume it was said with tongue firmly in cheek.But what if he had said it to an audience of 80 million people and combined it with rhetoric about how "the family of hungry_man" will replace them and bring violence to their country and rape their wives and daughters?
Can you pm it to me, I thought all of it was basically him just trollingYou need to read the whole thing. The worrying part of this whole thing is he is not crazy or disturbed or even full of hatred. He is sane, grounded and clear. This terrorist was even jovial, making jokes which the Spyro comment clearly was and noted as so. He was clear about what his 'jokes' were. His mention of PDP was not a joke. Whether he actually likes PDP or not is irrelevant. He knows alt-right nationalist are drawn to PDP whether that's by design or not.
How are we defining good people? I would say I know conservatives who are good people. They're my friends and family. The world of pop politicking has little to do with their day-in, day-out goings-on. The bigotry that finds its way into their politics is born of ignorance, and when they cross a life experience that contradicts their political model, they shed that ignorant belief.When you couch it as "I don't necessarily dislike his content, it's just that dang fanbase of his. (Who are still mostly just good people who love free speech and debate, by the way.)"
Nop.
The nazi philosophy was that every single human whould be tall, white and blond.
It was an atack against all races.
Edit:And blue eyes.
What is the collective 'we'? I asked you for your opinion not the general consensus on the websitewhy the lot of you come straight into this thread while ignoring everything said, there are plenty of marked posts that will tell you that we know that PDP isn't responsible for this tragedy but he is a alt right/nazi enabler nonetheless and his behavior feed this lunatics.
Can you pm it to me, I thought all of it was basically him just trolling
As far as I can tell from the bits of the manifesto I've gleened online from this sick fucks manifesto it seems the intention behind this terrorist attack was to cause division, to turn people against each other, much like any other act of terror. Included in the manifesto is ridiculous shit like ''spyro 3 taught me ethnocentrism'', this is all just to cause division the PewDiePie shit is irrelevant. Now you see here people talking about what jokes should and shouldn't be said when I believe that limiting what anyone can say in any capacity is dangerous.
Wow get a load of this assholeDoctor Seuss will open their eyes or at least the colorful pictures will keep their attention.
It doesn't matter if his "tounge was in his cheek". PDP chooses to have that platform. Just because he isn't actually responsible for the actions of every single subscriber doesn't mean he doesn't have a duty to watch what he says. The reason we hold institutions like Fox News accountable is because they lie, misrepresent and spread the very fear that stokes the fire of bigotry. They light the match and wait for the fireworks. The reason Alex Jones is in hot water right now is because his reporting on Sandy Hook victims still produced a contingent who viciously went after them. He doesn't get to hide behind the fact that he was just saying stuff and isn't responsible for the actions of his viewers. The reason people call out Trump in the wake of his Charllottesville BS or calling Mexicans rapists or black countries shit holes is because that wide reach will end up reinforcing the beliefs of bigots. In PDP's case his "Death to all Jews" bs is not a "joke". Claiming it's tongue and cheek is simply a dodge. There's no joke there. There's no other layers. There isn't any depth beyond the fact that the genocide of Jewish people is something funny. Putting that out to millions is fucking irresponsible and gross. This is without even going into how it affects Jewish viewers. Are they supposed to laugh? I certianly wouldn't be laughing if there was a sign around saying "I want to lynch black people". Something so base makes it a prime target to be internalized by people who are already bigoted.I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong here, but I think that you cant say hes totally responsible that one of the 80 million people who subscribed to him got memed into believing that the joke was more than what it was. Now I haven't watched a lot of PewDiePie or anything but from what I've seen I assume it was said with tongue firmly in cheek.
The bigotry that finds its way into their politics is born of ignorance, and when they cross a life experience that contradicts their political model, they shed that ignorant belief.
You cannot hold the president, those who claim to be sources of news and a YouTuber who's primary content is playing video games to the same standard in regards to watching what they say.It doesn't matter if his "tounge was in his cheek". PDP chooses to have that platform. Just because he isn't actually responsible for the actions of every single subscriber doesn't mean he doesn't have a duty to watch what he says. The reason we hold institutions like Fox News accountable is because they lie, misrepresent and spread the very fear that stokes the fire of bigotry. They light the match and wait for the fireworks. The reason Alex Jones is in hot water right now is because his reporting on Sandy Hook victims still produced a contingent who viciously went after them. He doesn't get to hide behind the fact that he was just saying stuff and isn't responsible for the actions of his viewers. The reason people call out Trump in the wake of his Charllottesville BS or calling Mexicans rapists or black countries shit holes is because that wide reach will end up reinforcing the beliefs of bigots. In PDP's case his "Death to all Jews" bs is not a "joke". Claiming it's tongue and cheek is simply a dodge. There's no joke there. There's no other layers. There isn't any depth beyond the fact that the genocide of Jewish people is something funny. Putting that out to millions is fucking irresponsible and gross. This is without even going into how it affects Jewish viewers. Are they supposed to laugh? I certianly wouldn't be laughing if there was a sign around saying "I want to lynch black people". Something so base makes it a prime target to be internalized by people who are already bigoted.
How are we defining good people? I would say I know conservatives who are good people. They're my friends and family. The world of pop politicking has little to do with their day-in, day-out goings-on. The bigotry that finds its way into their politics is born of ignorance, and when they cross a life experience that contradicts their political model, they shed that ignorant belief.
You cannot hold the president, those who claim to be sources of news and a YouTuber who's primary content is playing video games to the same standard in regards to watching what they say.
Pro tip don't start by defending someone that does alt right memes for lulz. You are just no different than anyone else defending him not out of ignorance but out of intentional malice just to fuck up the discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4&t=2sAs I have said, we all start somewhere.
- also this is my first time on this site dude, if you're too good to listen to my thoughts, then just don't.
How are we defining good people? I would say I know conservatives who are good people. They're my friends and family. The world of pop politicking has little to do with their day-in, day-out goings-on. The bigotry that finds its way into their politics is born of ignorance, and when they cross a life experience that contradicts their political model, they shed that ignorant belief.