I believe most people deserve a second chance. If he genuinely means it and uses his massive audience for good, then everyone will be better.
Problem is he already had many second chances.
I believe most people deserve a second chance. If he genuinely means it and uses his massive audience for good, then everyone will be better.
And not once given a genuine apology or had a truly reflective moment about his actions and the consequences from it.
Ironically, that's my point.
Yeah I figured, I was mocking the idea with that post.
And not once given a genuine apology or had a truly reflective moment about his actions and the consequences from it.
Every time he has put out an 'apology' video he has spent 30 seconds saying he was wrong and then spent 10 minutes complaining about how mainstream media is out to get him and twisting the truth.
The guy does something great and of course he still gets dumped on here by most people. The comments about it not being enough money are especially petty and lame. A lot of the members here are just ridiculous.
Pretty much this.I've never thought PDP was a bad guy at heart - at his core.
I've always thought he was just a guy that wanted to play games and not be a mouthpiece for much of anyone or anything in the broader culture.
I just think he's immature and doesn't care much/think much about the experience minorities and others not like him experience. He just wants to have his "LOLs" and live his life superficially. That social responsibility just isn't a major part of his worldview or moral make-up.
...which WOULD be fair enough - everyone is just out there living their life, and there's always someone more virtuous than someone else- except when he's in a position of EXTREME influence and has such an incredible amount of sway over such a huge number of impressionable young kids. In that context, his immature actions and poorly-thought-out-antics take on a more sinister, serious tact, and he deserves the criticism he's received for seemingly doubling down on some of his worst impulses over the years, instead of reflecting on them and learning from them.
He was at a turning point a few years ago where he could have turned to Chaotic Good and instead doubled down on Chaotic Neutral (at best) in other words.
But that said I still get the impression that that was just more immaturity speaking, and general carelessness and callousness. I don't think it's too late for him to become a bit more self-reflective, but I suspect it'll still be a bumpy road.
Also people in this thread complaining about "black and white" mentality while also saying donating money once redeems a person lol
Don't worry. It's because they can't trust anyone, and won't admit it.
I've never thought PDP was a bad guy at heart - at his core.
I've always thought he was just a guy that wanted to play games and not be a mouthpiece for much of anyone or anything in the broader culture.
I just think he's immature and doesn't care much/think much about the experience minorities and others not like him experience. He just wants to have his "LOLs" and live his life superficially. That social responsibility just isn't a major part of his worldview or moral make-up.
The guy does something great and of course he still gets dumped on here by most people. The comments about it not being enough money are especially petty and lame. A lot of the members here are just ridiculous.
Don't worry. It's because they can't trust anyone, and won't admit it.
The ADL is a "questionable organization"?In Tuesday's video in which Kjellberg first announces his donation, he does not address any controversies specifically, but says, "I made a lot of mistakes on the way, but I've grown." He continued, "I feel like I have at least. I feel like I've finally come to terms with the responsibility I have as a creator — about 100 million subs too late, but you know."
He started to give money to a really questionnable organisation and he thinks he grown up. OK dude.
Oh, I see. I wasn't aware of any of these.
When Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar was attacked in March for "invoking the anti-Semitic trope of 'dual loyalty'" in her criticisms of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Anti-Defamation League (ADL)—a Jewish non-govermental organization based in the United States, whose stated mission is "to stop the defamation of the Jewish people, and to secure justice and fair treatment to all"—was among the first to call on Congressional leaders to "take immediate action" against her.
This was a well-worn pattern: the ADL's calls to action have successfully mobilized public opinion against black leadership for decades, from the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and Ocean Hill-Brownsville parents in the New York City teacher strikes of 1968, to the Movement for Black Lives and Marc Lamont Hill. In a clear sign that the new class of elected Democrats has actually shifted some power, though, the Congressional resolution on anti-Semitism took a surprising turn. Instead of confirming the innocence of the Israel lobby, as the Democratic leadership intended, Congress was forced for the first time to repudiate Islamophobia and white supremacy alongside anti-Semitism.
Oh fucking hell and even the organisation is a dog whistling shithole?
Wonderful, I take back what I said, even this minor decent thing he has done is still a load of shit.
People are such fucking idiots for liking this guy or believing a word he says
How fun. Hope you don't get a nosebleed up there!
Exactly.This is what all the drive by posters aren't getting about the whole situation. He's throwing money at a problem to make it go away and isn't actually taking responsibility for anything, reflecting, and CHANGING his actions. How many times has he fucked up and we go through this cycle? He hasn't, nor isn't, or has ever, seemingly changed.
I'm not going to applaud shit people for throwing money at a charity if they are going to continue to be harmful shit people.
Since nobody answered you and I had to search for a bit to discover that too: Mainstream media.
He did not lose subs on the case. He was financially not hurt by it, by any means. He just wants to avoid being associated with it.
sir, no need for the attitude. I'm trying to be civil.
Yeah have to agree. I feel like a lot of people would have made comments like that regardless of how much money he actually donated.The guy does something great and of course he still gets dumped on here by most people. The comments about it not being enough money are especially petty and lame. A lot of the members here are just ridiculous.
As a poc, I take issue that being racism adjacent doesn't mean you're a "bad guy at heart." My entire life, I've heard this, excuses for racism and the benefit of the doubt for people, which encourages their behavior. I wholeheartedly believe this helped lead to the current socio-political climate. Especially in today's day and age, people have to take a stand against PDP's kind of racism in addition to the more obvious Charlottesville's marchers and skinheads. If you're OK with those jokes, or you create a real world impact of essentially recruiting for those causes (both of which he has done), then you are complicit. People can change, but that's more than donations along with statements essentially denying responsibility.
I was about to say that I don't have a strong opinion on the donation or the fake-apology that acoompied it (his behavior and the statement are bad, donations are good) but I can't forget how his behavior helped inspire a mass murder who shot down children, and seniors that look like my own parents. I find policing donation amounts distasteful, but in light of what actually happened, he needs to do more to begin making amends. That doesn't mean money, necessarily - maybe he should meet survivors, advocate on behalf of vulnerable POC, spend a little time trying to educate his viewers. Those actions, to me, would better indicate a change of heart compared to his awful statement.
The ADL has faced criticism for its support for Israel, charges of defamation,[5] spying allegations, its former stance on the Armenian Genocide, and possible conflation of opposition to Israel with antisemitism.[6]
welp, no point of him even trying to think about changing his ways if he'll still be shit on even for trying to do good.
This is triggering all the right assholes, so that's a good thing
As much as we like to think Era and these threads matter it's nothing more than venting and has pretty much no weight outside of this forum. The dude just hit 100 million subs even after a mass murderer told people to sub to him. This thread and the opinions in it aren't making a dent in his wallet or his psyche. Everyone is just sharing their thoughts and though I think this was a good move I can't blame people for not believing the sincerity of it.welp, no point of him even trying to think about changing his ways if he'll still be shit on even for trying to do good.
By the way, here's a thread about both the current Israeli PM seeking reelection and his opposition -- turns out they're all into extermination of Palestinians:
As we know, you should try do good only because so people will like you.welp, no point of him even trying to think about changing his ways if he'll still be shit on even for trying to do good.