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PewDiePie promotes anti-Semitic/racist YouTube channel
- Thread starter YamchasRevenge
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Same way neo nazis/alt right will tell you slavery is bad, the holocaust is bad, and the kkk are bad, but then repeat the exact same rhetoric unironically.
What, he promoted this white supremacist channel "in the heat of the moment" too?
The Ironic thing? remove all his racist shit and YT should STILL Ban this asshole just because his content is so fucking stupid and his face is the living definition of "headbuttable".
The Ironic thing? remove all his racist shit and YT should STILL Ban this asshole just because his content is so fucking stupid and his face is the living definition of "headbuttable".
Yeah, seems like I may have to read up and think of unsubscribing like I did some Total War streamers.
Why cant people be decent.
You should rethink your stance if you honestly think youtube rewind is getting disliked solely by alt-right. Its a combination of PDP fans, fans of other youtubers disappointed in a lack of appearance, youtube being tone deaf on several things including whats going on in their own website and BTS fans angry that youtube used a song without credit whilst removing views from their videos.
https://people.com/tv/youtube-pewdiepie-calls-lilly-singh-crybaby-wage-gap/
He also called a youtuber a crybaby after she noted that the newest top 10 highest paid youtubers were all men and suggested to her that maybe she should have capitalised on her mental health issues to sell more merch. The youtuber, Lilly Singh, had taken a short break to focus on health issues.
Edit: Seems like I misunderstood PDP? He wasn't suggesting that she should capitalise on her mental health issues but rather pointing out that she did it after she returned.
He also called a youtuber a crybaby after she noted that the newest top 10 highest paid youtubers were all men and suggested to her that maybe she should have capitalised on her mental health issues to sell more merch. The youtuber, Lilly Singh, had taken a short break to focus on health issues.
Edit: Seems like I misunderstood PDP? He wasn't suggesting that she should capitalise on her mental health issues but rather pointing out that she did it after she returned.
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Why are you surprised?
MKBHD is a shill. Just watch his so called interview with Elon Musk. He'd always back other big youtubers. That what the majority do. It's like some secret code. They rather call out the mainstream media and call them outdated, jealous and the other stupid shit.
IJustine is a Apple shill, but she doesn't try to hide it.
Unbox therapy is decent when he's not unboxing phones. I don't mind him as a person.
I mean they haven't even removed the video in question, they're sure as hell aren't going to ban Pewdiepie for sharing it (unfortunately)
The line here about people who think of gaming companies as friends is the one that utterly chills me. Because I know it happens, and we can see it everyday on this very forum.
And it's not solely because it's a gaming thing. I think a lot of us here that can spot it and recoil from it saw it happen first with gaming due to our tastes, but I think we can spot it across the entire spectrum of that multi-tentacled monster that is fandom. Any facet of culture that people can create a subculture around - gaming, wrestling, cars, sports, anime, manga, and even YouTube "personalities" - almost inevitably leads to not just communities that veer towards exclusionary mindsets and actions but also toward a sense of personal ownership that gets really scary really fast.
As a kid in the 90s I had my great loves - The Simpsons, Nintendo, Jurassic Park, Goosebumps and later Star Wars novels - but at every point along the media spectrum I recognized that I did not control the art. Other people did, and they did not necessarily need to take my evolving tastes into consideration. It was cool if they did, but if the story they were telling or the gameplay they were crafting lost me, then so be it. Other stuff existed. No one, to use the shitty parlance of a decade ago, "raped my childhood". I had my childhood, unique to me, and of the stuff that existed then some I still love, and some is best left as a pleasant memory.
But as you said, there's that insidious grain of the relationship with the creator that has metastasized with the growth of the internet. Immediate access to the creative process in its nascence means that people feel a stake in the outcome. Remember Mass Effect 3? Or, for that matter, any time a story beat in a television episode or long-running film franchise (ahem, Star Wars) doesn't somehow conform to a preconditioned set of expectations there is a sense of betrayal. Which is simply absurd. I have seen people in the run-up to a film release claim that if the movie doesn't do exactly what they assume from laborious hours of speculation and insane expectations that the product is a failure. There's a sense that if you're niche isn't exclusively catered to then the creators had an agenda against you.
Where this all ties back around is that need for pandering beyond the artistic realm. It starts with those subcultural media - gaming, wrestling, cars, sports, anime, manga, and even YouTube "personalities" - but quickly transforms into further ideas of personal identity. "Women aren't funny", thus comedy is for men. "Women only play casual games", thus gaming is for men. "Star Wars is part of the SJW agenda" because it dared to give representation to women and people of color, thus Star Wars is for white, straight men. And the feedback loop of people like PewDiePie and Ninja and others becomes an inculcation of a strange, grotesque white, male identity built around fiefdoms of media and culture.
I honestly have no clue how to combat this. It is so farcical on its face, overgrown children demanding that the world caters to their eccentric whims, that it's mockable right up to the point that it becomes increasingly dangerous. Extremism in its myriad forms is always deplorable, but at least you might be able to say that its roots were often founded in very real pain, marginalized people driven to drastic measures as a means of asserting that they too exist and they too need the rudimentary staples of living.
But what the fuck are these miscreants? They utterly ruin Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. They're fed, they have water, they have shelter, they have community, and by dint of their gender, sexuality, and often race they have privileges that the people they hate couldn't dare dream of. They harbor murderous sentiment because someone swapped the gender of a cartoon character.
Well, to be fair, he made fun of her for capitalising on her mental health issues to sell merch. Not suggesting it. I can't read the article right now, but if it is that what they are trying to spin I'd almost call that ill intent. It is quite obvious without further context needed in the video imo.
Not trying to defend PewDiePie here, but traditional media really needs to step up their game when reporting on new media figures. This is quite counter productive...
Oh I took that as him saying that she should capitalise on her mental health, not that she has done it. My mistake.
He's such a giant piece of shit. It's depressing that such terrible people have the success they do. He deserves to rot in a gutter.
As per my update and the post above I might have misread the article.
Well if the dude wants to show off the inherent superiority of the aryan race by getting himself run over by a car, well, I won't complain. It might be the first damn video of his I'd watch
Well.
Seeing that he is the number 1 guy in YouTube, I suppose this really is a representative of what YouTube really like.
Which makes all the Corporate-Safe image they're trying to project with YouTube Rewind 2018 is so hilariously off-putting.
Seeing that he is the number 1 guy in YouTube, I suppose this really is a representative of what YouTube really like.
Which makes all the Corporate-Safe image they're trying to project with YouTube Rewind 2018 is so hilariously off-putting.
Pewdiepie's callout garnered him a nice 16.000 subscriber increase over the 2 day period:
Source.
One example of E;R's bigoted content is the video, "Pearl Lies Shamelessly to Steven":
Source u/shatteredfondant
- 1:30 it lists many Jewish celebrities, this is an anti-Semitic tactic called "naming the Jew" meant to accuse them of some wrongdoing for their success.
- 2:10 it displays the text "CUT THE (((GEMS))) SPACE WAR NOW" which is a reference to the anti-Semitic catchphrase "Gas the Jews, race war now". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
- 2:40 it dogwhistles yet another anti-Semitic canard which claims that Jews are humanity's greatest threat, the same used to justify the holocaust.
Another example would be his video "Steven Rapeyverse, Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love to Fuse", which ends with a 2:30 min long Hitler speech railing against MSM and Jews.
Full breakdown of the situation regarding Pewdiepie and E;R by Hasan Piker from TYT and why this is so problematic.
E;R revealing his MO:
Pewdiepie is a garbage human being
It's visible in so many threads. Gamer tribalism is one of the silliest things that is, at the same time, the most abusable. Which is why companies and tubers alike constantly abuse it. And these gamers don't even see how manipulated they are.
He doesn't live in Sweden anymore, but we have laws against hate speech, and I think when he had a "heated gaming moment" something could have been done, but the law is not really tested for stuff like saying slurs on a stream, I don't know how they would apply that to a stream or YT-video.
If he is still a citizen of Sweden then the laws should apply. I do not see the distinction of the method of hate speech, recorded should be valid as written.
And another thing, chances are that if he lives in EU, the hate speech laws of the country he is residing should apply.
I'm a Swede. Of course there isn't. And there shouldn't be. Pewdiepie is an asshole.
See, I avoided his Musk interviews because I just don't give a shit about Musk anymore. But yeah, I could tell he's big into Musk and his stuff. I just didn't think about it. I was just there for his Apple reviews.
Which is why I liked iJustine. I like her enthusiasm even if it turns others off. Yeah, she loves Apple. So do I. But she does collaborations with MKBHD a lot. The video they did unboxing the 2000 colored iBook got me to subscribe to her.
And I watch Unbox Therapy if it intrigues me. (Yeah, usually not phone stuff) But a lot of the time he uses that same clickbait style thumbnails and titles. But so does EverythingApplePro who I also avoid unless it's a video about an update or something.
It's exhausting these days living in the constant fear that you'll wake up and find out that you can't watch a channel anymore because the creator said something really stupid. Like for the most part I watch safe channels. People who seem to be really good people. But I dread the day I wake up and find out one of my favorites that I watch every single day suddenly has to come out of my rotation. Like I literally only watch YouTube. And it's hard enough filling the day with content. Maybe I'm being selfish. At least it's just MKBHD who only uploads something I want to watch occasionally, and not someone like PeanutButterGamer or The Completionist.
I think he lives in England and I have no idea what kind of laws they have against hate speech there. I have no idea if he's still a citizen, I agree, and people have charged with hate speech for things they've written on the internet. But he doesn't live here anymore so I don't really know the whole legal situation is, since he's not breaking any law in the UK as far as I know.
It's like I would go to the US and smoke weed, I can't be arrested in the US under Swedish law, as far as I know at least.
Despicable. PewDiePie needs to disappear from YouTube and other social medias. His racist ideas can and will influence young people. This has to stop.
To be totally honest, I find this utterly incomprehensible. Like, the dearth of quality movies, TV, books (!), music, and more (fine art!), out there is just insurmountable. Is there no other outlet you find enjoyable?
Not really. I guess my tastes have just changed. I mean I love movies and TV. But right now, I really love YouTubers. There's a lot of good content out there. People call me crazy. But I don't care.
You know, the continued existence of PDP being able to carry on being racist would logically blow a hole into whatever anti-Semitic "Jews run the world" theory they subscribe to, but I know logic is hard for those who blindly hate.
This wouldn't be so bad (sad?) if you were watching international news or science or college lectures or presentations from hacker conferences, literally anything that could teach you a skill or learn something useful and tangible, but somehow you run out of shit content.
All the libraries and books and movies in the world you ran out of videos watching people open boxes. Amazing.
Well, excuse me for saying it out loud, but kids who choose pdp are idiots. Most of the kids these days who have foods on their table and iPhones in their hands to stream and watch are privileged. They can and have the obligation of picking the right content. When I was 10, I had a choice of picking shitty local music and blending in or choosing Metallica and Stones. I chose Metallica and Stones. And so on. Let kids have some fucking responsibility. Everyone has choices at their disposal.
Kids dont have the knowledge, experience or critical thinking skills to be able to see why people like PDP and others who push fascist content are bad or how they operate so to put the blame on them is ridiculous.
Also, while i agree that PDP is not funny at all, i didnt grow up with that being the biggest thing in entertainment like these kids have done so you cant put the same standards on them.
Your post just comes across as some self congratulatory, hipster rubbish that completely ignores reality.
literally the opposite. he still gains more followers than up and coming channels.
Youtube needs state regulation like it's a cable channel or something.
Kids need protection from manipulative and extremist views hidden behind a "gaming channel".
Their algorithms promote conspiracy theories, fake news and as soon as you watch just one video of a certain type of content the algorithm will literally force more shit down your throat.
Kids need protection from manipulative and extremist views hidden behind a "gaming channel".
Their algorithms promote conspiracy theories, fake news and as soon as you watch just one video of a certain type of content the algorithm will literally force more shit down your throat.
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I don't know much about him, I never watched anything he did back when it was video game stuff, but I have watched a few of his recent videos and he doesn't seem like a bad guy... I watched the video which this news is from and he called out like 50 channels he has enjoyed. If one of them had posted some dodgy stuff I'm quite sure he didn't know that or else he wouldn't have said it...
The specific video he mentions makes jokes about Heather Heyer's death, and has multiple uses of the n-word. PDP also left a positive comment on that video, saying he was looking forward to the second part. He 100% is aware of the content in these videos.
You can say all you want about Felix and his views and what you believe about him as a person.
The n-word flows easily from his mouth and he props up/supports some horrible people.
Even if all of this were ironic, it wouldn't matter. The fact his platform is playing host to these things is harmful enough without any ill intent required.
That he still can't see that makes him at best completely deaf and blind to these issues, and at worst actively championing them.
Either way, he's complicit.
And I've heard some horrible things from teenage kids who parrot his "irony" like it's actually gospel.
The harm he's doing is too great to ignore.
The n-word flows easily from his mouth and he props up/supports some horrible people.
Even if all of this were ironic, it wouldn't matter. The fact his platform is playing host to these things is harmful enough without any ill intent required.
That he still can't see that makes him at best completely deaf and blind to these issues, and at worst actively championing them.
Either way, he's complicit.
And I've heard some horrible things from teenage kids who parrot his "irony" like it's actually gospel.
The harm he's doing is too great to ignore.