Yeah, people fucking suck and this board is littered with shitheads apparently.
Lmao uhhhh
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PewDiePie promotes known white supremacist... again.
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Yeah, people fucking suck and this board is littered with shitheads apparently.
Lmao uhhhh
Thank you.
This guy is a racist based on his history but to think this was intentional is a stretch. I've never used tik tok but people say it's like vine? How could you research everyone in a vine compilation?
Ah, yes, the internet - that thing that has had no influence on the world in recent times, where how people behave has no consequences at all whatsoever. (My point: nothing about a discussion happening online should make you question its credibility or meaningfulness.)
Ah, yes, demonstrations - that thing that the public at large always takes seriously. (My point: actually, people dismiss demonstrators as readily as they do anyone else, and credibility is a constantly moving target. Instead of arbitrarily deciding this or that avenue for discussion gives one more credibility, approach all discussions in good faith.)
Ah, yes, the internet and demonstrations - those things that are mutually exclusive with one another. (You can call shit out on the internet and go outside and demonstrate. They are far from mutually exclusive.)
Yes. Your "research" has contributed nothing to the discussion except distraction, the way you've characterized your "discoveries" has been hilariously misguided, and 99% of everything you've said about the dude can basically be boiled down to "he's making a big deal out of nothing and is therefore a SJW."
The video is right there. Right there. There's no need to take his (rather grounded) tweets at face value. Assuming we are living in the same reality, this is a discussion that is rooted in shared evidence.
By the way, the problem is less that you did a quick glance at the guy's bio, and more that you crafted a nonsensical narrative around it.
Nah, it's social criticism. PewDiePie has been given a lot of chances, he warrants scrutiny, and there's nothing about accurately calling out something he did that abandons social criticism and retreats into the realm of "social destructive criticism."
By the way, I love how you've created this bizarre dichotomy in which there's Social Criticism and Social Destructive Criticism, and the essential difference between them is that in one you call someone out publicly and in the other you go down on them or something and then calmly explain to them personally what they've done wrong.
"I know there's a larger context, but in the greatest irony, I'm going to pretend it doesn't exist in order to maximize my outrage at the reaction to this specific situation."
There are probably a lot of people - not necessarily even fans - who will never stop defending him no matter what he does. Maybe there's some straw that will eventually break the camel's back and cause his viewership to decline, but I don't know.
Probably not the best place to discuss this, but I need to vehemently disagree. Even beyond the most notorious mods that are surely on everyone's minds, I can at least think of two other GAF mods I didn't care for in the least (one of them enjoying actively trolled the GW2 thread even after he stopped playing, and banned people who called him out on it). Whereas Era has a solid track record of making mods out of my favorite people (Morrigan, Finale Fireworker and now RedCrayon) and has been far more lenient with warnings and infractions.
You might be confused by the fact that Era stamps down harder on bigotry than GAF did. Sorry, but for me, that's a feature, not a bug.
I'm not sure if criticism of Era is even allowed but I recently caught a 2 week ban for racism for asking if someone else is black (keep in mind I myself am black). Era has it's own issues just like GAF did.
You can as a singular individual make more impact on social media then singular individual demonstrating outside <insert place>
You forgot the part where everyone clapped and cheered for doing something so very brave.
Saying A is better than B is not the same as saying A is perfect or infallible. No forum will ever have perfect moderation as long as the moderators are human.
Joined a month ago. 8 posts, half of them in here. Tired already.
You need more stamina boi.
Very true. I don't want to continue the discussion though fresh off a ban so let's leave it there. It's also just going to be increasingly off topic.
I know. it was the first thing i noticed as well. Too obvious.
Lmao the guys name is whitereport...you can't make that shit up.
I cannot be the only one chuckling at someone trying to convince others to "go out and demonstrate, instead of posting in a forum", by posting in a forum. :D
It's like, the reason most of us moved here, no?
Some of these posts here echo that Congressman from the news this morning: "When did the term 'white supremacist' become a bad thing?"
Pretty much. People with low tolerance for sexism, bigotry and hypocrisy moved to Era; people who didn't mind that much stayed on GAF. I don't think why people are surprised that this selection filter resulted in Era the progressive forum and modern-GAF the average gamer hellhole.
In a more meta sense, it's like people want the intelligent discouse of a strongly moderated forum with zero tolerance for bigotry, but without said moderation being applicable to them. OK, it's not "like" that; it's exactly that.
You're not the only one laughing at Mooch, that's for damn sure.
He should take a photo of himself at a demonstration holding a sign that reads "write your opinions in a sign like this, not in forums", I think we'd all respect him a lot more after that.
I dont know if you re being /s but a dude call Brad edits all of his videos and afaik they are friends. So no i dont think so.
Duration can increase the severity of an infraction, but you can't just dismiss criticism of the behavior as exaggerated if a single instance doesn't reach some arbitrary duration. It remains a thing that happened. And it's a thing that has happened repeatedly. Frequency continues to exacerbate the severity of his offense and makes attempted dismissals of it increasingly seem unjustified.
Are people not aware that it's a pattern? This time it was just a 5 second segment. Last time it was just a 10 second mention. The time before that it was just a joke. The time before that it was just a one second heated gaming moment. Etcetera probably.
This argument that people are bringing out is like "sure, he punched that guy in the face multiple times, but each punch only lasted a second so it doesn't count."
And with this analogy I am not saying that what Kjellberg has done is equivalent to assault, rather it is meant to point out that the argument that duration of an offense is the only relevant aspect, is blatant weak nonsense.
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The context of which the clip appears in the video (i.e. this video is him watching random clips) would have some significance.
But as others have probably mentioned, the guy can afford to hire people to go through his videos before they're uploaded. Check for blatant assholes like BakedAlaska. If he's not being intentionally shitty here, he's being incompetent, negligent and/or lazy.
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Cause the amount of seconds in a compilation reaction just doesn't add up to "promotes a nazi".
Even with all his background, how can a person see this as "promoting a nazi" ... smh
But sure, people are free to believe that he asked brad "hey brad, I reacted to the obvious nazi propaganda alaska boy, dont cut that shit up! ITS IMPORTANT! Its all part of the plan"
I've come to realize something... It doesn't take much to make gamers snap.
Discussing lack of representation in videogames? snap.
Acknowledging that racism is an issue within the gaming community? snap.
Wife interrupts you while streaming games? snap EXTRA hard.
Yikes....The amount of context required to understand why this should be considered bad or offensive is more depressing than laughable.
What's sad is that i came into this thread thinking it was going to be a big oopsie (11 pages, god damn), but after seeing what it's about, i'm feeling more like "wait, really?....again?".
I legitimately want to be justifiably offended as people were when PDP said the N-word during a stream, but this ain't it.
What's sad is that i came into this thread thinking it was going to be a big oopsie (11 pages, god damn), but after seeing what it's about, i'm feeling more like "wait, really?....again?".
I legitimately want to be justifiably offended as people were when PDP said the N-word during a stream, but this ain't it.
That's true, they do rise up.
By creating throwaway accounts on a website they dislike.
Giving any amount of time to scum like this is irresponsible when you have an audience so large. Misusing and misunderstanding the influence you have doesn't clear you of any guilt when you're making content so willy-nilly, it's his responsibility to clear these other content makers so he isn't normalizing their views with his large audience. "It's just a reaction video!" isn't an excuse, not when your influence is so large.
If you have regular conversations with Stefan Molyneux on Twitter, you have enough savvy in internet and right-wing culture to know who Baked Alaska, whose username is prominently displayed in the clip, is.
It's getting harder to take Era reactions seriously on some of these "celebs." PewDiePie has done some stupid/offensive things, no question, and he could disappear tomorrow and it wouldn't affect me at all... But this? This is nothing and title is insanely misleading.
That's an assumption though.
I personally haven't heard of "Baked Alaska" since 2016 and would have no idea what he looks like. Were they not banned from Twitter?
So how hard is it to write "On my last video I promoted content from a person who does not reflect my beliefs. I apologize and promise to make sure such things do not happen again"?
I probably would've never noticed or even known of this had this ERA thread not existed. And that goes for PDPs last few infractions as well. At some point, you have to ask yourself whether it's worth being a sentinel of his content if you're just going to raise awareness of this stuff to audiences that probably wouldn't have known otherwise. I can also say with confidence that most of the ERA population would not be influenced by a few second mention of a white supremacist.
PDP is shit. We know. Stop putting his shit on blast here just to be outraged. We know he's an idiot and likely white supremacist sympathizer.
PDP is shit. We know. Stop putting his shit on blast here just to be outraged. We know he's an idiot and likely white supremacist sympathizer.
With this logic, he now knows, so has he removed it?
It's a stretch to say he's promoting it. I'd say it's more likely he just doesn't give a shit because he's an immoral shitbag. Is that okay to say?
You've convinced me that my verbiage is the real problem here and not the insanely popular YouTube star with a mostly child audience that continuously invokes alt-right propaganda and/or people in his videos. Henceforth, I shall carry a thesaurus and use the dullest, least poignant words I can possibly muster.
While I agree that he doesn't seem to actively promote or remark the specific video, there is an abundance of precedents heavily encouraging him to fact check his sources, since everything he says or does gets enormously publicized and reaches a lot of people. Yet he still doesn't learn, which leads us to suspect connivence.
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