I mean, most people who have been affected probably aren't going to be on here anyways. ;DMore people are freaking out over this than actually being affected it feels like.
I mean, most people who have been affected probably aren't going to be on here anyways. ;DMore people are freaking out over this than actually being affected it feels like.
It's not, but they are probably covered some how. This whole thing is unbelievable. The wind is 5 mph where I'm at. There's no wind at all... they really jumped the gun on this one.
Let's hope some sort of massive class action or whatever lawsuit gets set on PG&E bc its honestly ludicrous. Some families seem to have gotten less than 24 hours to figure this out. Its 9PM here and still have power, at least.
I get that part, but I mean the fact that they have been so negligent that power going off for non-tropical storm conditions for up to a week is their current solution, which will impact our economy, health of families, schooling, working, etc.Yeahhhh I doubt it. I actually had a class action sitting here on giving payouts for the fires from last year, but you needed "proof" that it effected you somehow :/ I also heard that people that called early yesterday, said they won't be comp'd for food going bad in the fridge and such.
They ain't paying. :/
More people are freaking out over this than actually being affected it feels like.
I just wish they'd admit that they're not gonna do it. But that would be probably be embarrassing for them.8:59 p.m. PG&E announces delay in next round of shutoffs for Bay Area: Bay Area shutoffs were delayed for an unknown amount of time on Wednesday night, said Jeff Smith, a PG&E spokesman. Smith said the utility will likely begin Bay Area shutoffs "later this evening," but did not specify a time. The utility expected to release an update on the changes Wednesday evening.
But for the average person, what does it really matter? I'm sure there are plenty of edge cases where the power is crucial and I can understand that, but I'm at home now and if the power goes out, it goes out. I know it could happen but I honestly don't think it will. It's not really any different than a real power outage except this time we know it's coming. I'm just carrying on rather than worrying about it. I stated earlier that I don't think most people will be impacted by this so I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is going to actually end up being. This feels like Y2K all over again.Probably because it's so unpredictable? You know it's coming, but don't know when, and you can't plan around that.
Also maybe some people who lost power aren't posting here because... no internet? Saving phone battery for emergency, etcProbably because it's so unpredictable? You know it's coming, but don't know when, and you can't plan around that.
But for the average person, what does it really matter? I'm sure there are plenty of edge cases where the power is crucial and I can understand that, but I'm at home now and if the power goes out, it goes out. I know it could happen but I honestly don't think it will. It's not really any different than a real power outage except this time we know it's coming. I'm just carrying on rather than worrying about it. I stated earlier that I don't think most people will be impacted by this so I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is going to actually end up being. This feels like Y2K all over again.
But for the average person, what does it really matter? I'm sure there are plenty of edge cases where the power is crucial and I can understand that, but I'm at home now and if the power goes out, it goes out. I know it could happen but I honestly don't think it will. It's not really any different than a real power outage except this time we know it's coming. I'm just carrying on rather than worrying about it. I stated earlier that I don't think most people will be impacted by this so I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is going to actually end up being. This feels like Y2K all over again.
Darknight you may not be affected by this but if upwards of a MILLION homes are without power, certainly thats affecting folks. Several hundred thousand homes have been without power since this morning.
My mom just came back from picking up my sister and a ton of the East Side was pitch black.
But for the average person, what does it really matter? I'm sure there are plenty of edge cases where the power is crucial and I can understand that, but I'm at home now and if the power goes out, it goes out. I know it could happen but I honestly don't think it will. It's not really any different than a real power outage except this time we know it's coming. I'm just carrying on rather than worrying about it. I stated earlier that I don't think most people will be impacted by this so I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is going to actually end up being. This feels like Y2K all over again.
Also maybe some people who lost power aren't posting here because... no internet? Saving phone battery for emergency, etc
....my entire life is affected by this and they can't tell us when it will start or when it will end. I work from home so I need power and an internet connection. My daughter goes to school and we don't know if she will be going or not on each day because that decision is up to the school district. We have bought any perishable food since this started because we didn't want it to spoil. They are telling us to expect to be without power for FIVE DAYS. That's a pretty big disruption in a family's life and because this is unprecedented the implication is that this is going to be the new normal from here on out. It's too expensive for PG&E to move the cables underground apparently so nothing is going to change hardware-wise. If the conditions occur again next October we're all going to be without power again for who knows how long.
With this example, you have to realize on the circumstances there are with others out there. Picking up kids, do they have school? Do they not? Do I even have work? Do I have to take a day off to take care of said kid? Kind of like planning going on that happened earlier on. And that's just using one example, with the picking up the sister example, going through the black out areas.
Just as I'm posting, the post above shows another clear picture of stuff that happens. It's not just flickering on and off for a night, but days and that might mean some people can't work/make money, and so forth.
Many people's lives and livelihood depend on power man. Y2K was a nothing burger because literally nothing happened. This is different, if you are out of power, You will need a generator, gas for the generator, hope it works and hope you don't run out of gas. Now is it catastrophic? No, but I think the comparison is unfair.
ugh10:39 p.m. Second phase of shutoffs begin: Shutoffs began hitting East Bay, South Bay and Santa Cruz counties shortly before 11 p.m., according to Karly Hernandez, a PG&E spokeswoman. Utility crews will "continue deenergizing through midnight tonight," Hernandez said.
so berkeley has gone from 8am today to 8pm today to 10pm and now it's supposedly midnight. lol ok
I'm not saying nobody is going to be affected by this, but the last time I checked the map, a large part of the impact area was mostly more rural and less populated areas. SF, the peninsula, east bay, and south bay are largely untouched except around the edges. A lot of that colored in space is empty. Maybe Y2K wasn't the best example, but maybe the last big rain storm they made a big deal out of hitting here which turned out to be barely a big deal. I think the messaging, the lack of updates, and so forth have made more people panic than they should be doing. The Bay Area is something like 8 million people and that's not even factoring the regions beyond that are also included in this.
Just fyi, these are ones not just rural areas. :Pugh10:39 p.m. Second phase of shutoffs begin: Shutoffs began hitting East Bay, South Bay and Santa Cruz counties shortly before 11 p.m., according to Karly Hernandez, a PG&E spokeswoman. Utility crews will "continue deenergizing through midnight tonight," Hernandez said.
Best of luck.
Just fyi, these are ones not just rural areas. :P
Best of luck.
You do realize there's actually a ton of houses up there, right, particularly in the Castro Valley area.
I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Just because people appear on the edges of those maps doesn't mean they aren't part of the bay area and there aren't millions of us living here.Look at the map; they're on the edges of those areas though where it's less populated compared to the rest of the area.They're on the edges because that's where the hills and open areas are and the people that are affected are on those edges.
You do realize there's actually a ton of houses up there, right, particularly in the Castro Valley area.
Are you actually checking the numbers for those areas, or just eyeing that it looks like hills, and assume there aren't housing up there?
I can't tell if you're intentionally being facetious, or what your point is supposed to be in trying to continue to push this narrative.
I don't need to look at the map, I'm quite familiar with several of those areas as I have many family members who live there.
So the hundreds of thousands of people comprised of the tens of thousands of people in each county don't matter? This isn't a problem because only half a million people are without power, and you're fine?I am looking at the numbers unless these are outdated. The projected number of people impacted in Santa Clara County is 38,250 out of a population of 2 million. The projected number of people to be impacted in Alameda County is 32,680 out of a population of 1.7 million. The map clearly shows it's on the edges and the numbers that were projected are low relative to the majority of the population in the area.
So just because a lower number people impacted, all of a sudden it means they must all live in a rural area, and they somehow matter less now.I am looking at the numbers unless these are outdated. The projected number of people impacted in Santa Clara County is 38,250 out of a population of 2 million. The projected number of people to be impacted in Alameda County is 32,680 out of a population of 1.7 million. The map clearly shows it's on the edges and the numbers that were projected are low relative to the majority of the population in the area.
So the hundreds of thousands of people comprised of the tens of thousands of people in each county don't matter? This isn't a problem because only half a million people are without power, and you're fine?
So just because a lower number people impacted, all of a sudden it means they must all live in a rural area, and they somehow matter less now.
Comments like, "But for the average person, what does it really matter?", is rather insulting as in to imply now that those who are impacted are somewhat not average? If people stress out over this, they're somehow different now?
My issue with your takes is that it's one thing to give advice, and try to help alleviate other people's stress by providing a perspective. It's another to be downplaying the issue, making light of the situation, and trying to prevent others from feeling what they want to feel and just what you want them to feel. If your intent was originally with the former, then admittedly, you did a terrible job at it, and you should just cop to it, and accept it. It's a misunderstanding, so that's fine. But if your intent is the latter, then you should really think about the concept of empathy, and what that actually means in this case.
I'm not trying to be a dick here, but I just can't quite grasp why you don't recognize that you're coming off as one currently with these comments.
and to the poster above, south san jose is not a "rural area". silver creek, evergreen, alum rock is all dark. a lot of people live there. same goes for every other county affected.
I didn't say it was only rural that's affected. It's mostly rural with the edges the border the rural areas. I'm extremely familiar with the area having been born, raised, and still living here all my life. I even lived in the Evergreen area at one point so I'm extremely familiar with it. Since I'm so familiar with it, I know that the areas you listed aren't South San Jose. Those areas are considered East San Jose. South San Jose is like the Almaden area. And yes, those areas are pushing to the edges of San Jose. Certainly lots of neighborhoods, but again it's the outer edge of the city. They are literally next to the hills and in many cases in the hills.
Who cares if it's called south san jose or east san jose?I grew up in the area as well, lived in Evergreen for over 5 years and it could be considered southeast San Jose for all I care. I'm just saying thousands of homes and families are affected by this and it's a shitty situation to be in.
But for the average person, what does it really matter? I'm sure there are plenty of edge cases where the power is crucial and I can understand that, but I'm at home now and if the power goes out, it goes out. I know it could happen but I honestly don't think it will. It's not really any different than a real power outage except this time we know it's coming. I'm just carrying on rather than worrying about it. I stated earlier that I don't think most people will be impacted by this so I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is going to actually end up being. This feels like Y2K all over again.
It's more about what is implied, and not said, rather than what you're trying to say.Where did I say they didn't matter? Point that out to me please because I never said that. I'm not even saying PG&E shouldn't get all the shit that they have coming to them for doing this and the way they've handled it either. I'm saying it seems like a lot more people are freaking out over this when a vast majority of these people will not be impacted.
Again, it's about what you're implying, and the comment itself implies that quite directly, and doesn't do much after to clarify.Again, where is this they matter less coming from? I've never said that. I'm pointing out that this is targeted at more rural and open areas because that's the areas they want to avoid having live power lines going down. If you're not near one of those areas, you're very unlikely to be impacted. They're not shutting down power in SF for that very reason. The vast majority of the population are in these areas that are going to be unaffected so it seems like there's a lot of overreaction of people thinking they're going to be impacted.
Putting things into perspective is one thing. Trying to tell people that this should be their perspective, especially those whoa are impacted, is another thing.I am trying to put it in perspective and not trying to make light of the situation. A vast majority of people will not be impacted simply because of where they live. Those who are impacted, it doesn't really do you much good of being on edge watching for updates because you really don't have much control over the situation anyway. It's best to just have your plan, carry on, and only worry about it if it actually happens. There's very little that you gain from refreshing constantly on updates and worrying about if it's going to happen. Again, I'm not trying to make light of someone's situation or trying to say someone isn't as worthy, but this won't impact most people and for those that do, it's out of your hands anyway so you might as well go on with your lives until it happens if it happens at all.
It's more about what is implied, and not said, rather than what you're trying to say.
And why do you keep trying to frame the perspective that just because not a vast majority are affected, all of a sudden, people should stop worrying, and are just overreacting, and not conforming to your beliefs of it is what it is?
Have you considered that people deal with stress differently? Have you considered people may already have plans in place, but may still have some stress anyways? It just feels like you're painting this perfect picture for what you believe a person should be in a stressful situation, and anything that doesn't fit your mold is all of sudden weird, and strange.
Again, it's about what you're implying, and the comment itself implies that quite directly, and doesn't do much after to clarify.
Honest question. How many of those areas have you been out to?
Where do you live in the Bay Area? How often have you gone out to those areas specifically?
You keep saying "rural", as if that has the same application everywhere, and it's just a single definition that fits your narrative of, move along folks, and, nothing to see here.
So you're saying this is only an issue if it does hit the cities? Because again, that's what you're implying.
Vast majority of the population isn't impacted. So what? Just because the proportion of the population isn't impacted, it's still insensitive to frame it as it's not as big of a problem, so those who are impacted, just deal with it since it didn't impact the areas that matter.
Even if this is not what you're saying, this is exactly what you keep implying with your comments, and I don't know why you keep repeating the same things over and over again, and not reflecting on your words more carefully. However, you seem to just keep doubling, tripling down on it, so I'm not sure if the former is your intention.
Putting things into perspective is one thing. Trying to tell people that this should be their perspective, especially those whoa are impacted, is another thing.
How are you unable to see the difference?
How do you know what good it does others? Just because you feel this is the best for you, then good for you. It works for you.
If people stress out, does that all of a sudden mean they're no longer able to make logical decisions just because they're on edge? Being on edge doesn't all of a sudden make you inherently unable to make practical and logical decisions. It also doesn't mean that person doesn't already have one in place.
And in the end, it's how others feel, and you should respect that. You may not agree with it, which you are totally within your right to disagree with. But the way you keep implying that people should just, get over it, is problematic, and the way you keep pushing that it's not impacting most people, doesn't help those who are impacted.
Just because people stress, doesn't mean they can't carry on with their lives either. Stop trying to tell other people how to feel about the situation, without first, empathizing with their situation in the first place. THIS, I feel is really where you keep missing the point, and continue to be stubborn in recognizing from your continued comments in this discussion.
Same here. Still, have power...it feels unsettling seeing my fellow Bay Area residents not having power and here I am living the normal life, while others are trying to make do without power...Not sure what's going on, still got power for now though. I don't know if they're still shutting power off though