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Phil Spencer Hints at Classic Halo Coming to PC
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The point is Microsoft wants you in their ecosystem regardless of platform, and putting their coveted titles on Steam doesn't accomplish that.
MCC is 'dead' because the multiplayer is broken to this day. Not for lack of interest
The only people that are confused about PC gamers not supporting UWP/Windows Store are those that shouldn't be leaving the Microsoft treehouse anyway.
I wonder if this will actually be that big. Doesn't exactly feel like the PC shooter audience is hungry for a Halo
I still get matches on MCC easily.
The update/relaunch + Gamepass (and now Play Anywhere) will boost the population by A LOT
If you're unaware, 343 Industries announced in January that their plans for 2018 are to make Master Chief Collection (the Xbox One collection with Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST and Halo 4) better with updates, updating all of the menus, making matchmaking better, better performance and graphics, etc. and release it as a big update this year.
Microsoft also kinda leaked that the game is coming to Game Pass sometime this year (probably Summer) in a video. (I say kinda leak because it was pretty blatant and it was on the official Xbox social media channels).
This Twitter post probably means MCC (along with the huge update and coming to Game Pass) is coming to the Microsoft Store on Windows 10.
Yeah but that doesnt change the fact that its dead.
Short of them fixing it to perfection and making it F2P on the X1, I dont see it ever coming back.
It's a store with bad support, bad software, bad word of mouth, and not many players / buyers on PC. It seems like an objectively terrible idea to make games exclusive to it on PC.
The game is higher also then FM7 and TF2 when looking at most played and close to BF4. Wich has 10k peak players the last 24 hours.
People have been begging for almost a decade now. It took a fan project based on a cancelled game to show MS there can be a healthy community for Halo on the PC
Sea of Thieves has crossplay and gamepass, which helps a lot in making a confident purchase that the game will have a good playerbase. If Halo MCC has both of those things I'd probably buy it on W10 store, confident there's going to be a decent playerbase. While there's a good chance for gamepass, crossplay is less of a given.
"Classic" makes me think it's MCC.
What are the chances they update the MCC to add in Halo 3 Anniversary? I doubt they will just outright skip that.
Additionally, is Reach/ODST's campaign/multiplayer still missing?
What are the chances they update the MCC to add in Halo 3 Anniversary? I doubt they will just outright skip that.
Additionally, is Reach/ODST's campaign/multiplayer still missing?
If you understand the history of Halo you know that PC and Halo has a salty history. I've lived through it as I was very much on Bungie.net as Halo went through all its transitions. It was one of the most hyped games of its era, being turned into a "dumbed down, no online" console exclusive arcade shooter. There has been a lot of animosity from the PC community towards Halo. For gridlocking it. For altering the concept so much. And even during it's e3 2011 showing, Halo did not impress many people.
When Halo was released, people factually said that it was the first "real" FPS that worked on consoles. And so when Halo 1 came to PC, many people reported that the control scheme and gameplay was uniquely designed for the slower reaction times of the analog controller movement. The slow gravity, the way the enemies moved in the average gameplay loop. But I did remember a lot of PC players really enjoyed Halo on PC even though it was years later. As matter of a fact, the Halo 1 PC multiplayer Demo was played by people for more than 10 years. Absolutely unbeliveable, that there was a dedicated PC Halo Demo community, that loved the community in the two demo levels.
To my knowledge it was never reported on, but you had many servers and thousands of players, more than a decade after Halos release. It speaks to Halos enduring gameplay and the passionate community that surrounded it (at that time at least).
Which begs the question; Does the mainstream PC audience want Halo PC? Because I don't have any sense of the FPS genre doing logically well. Titanfall 2 plays fucking amazing, and it's beyond me that it has abandoned. I just don't get it when other games play significantly inferior. I don't even own the title myself, but playing it for a free weekend it was just so obvious how good the game is. Halo also has a really unique and distinct multiplayer. So will PC players bite?
IMO COD is of no interest, and Battlefield hasn't come close to replicating the greatness of 1942 2002 - BF2 2005 era BF. So what the hell is going to do well on PC when it comes to Halo? I think everyone saw the potential in a much expanded forge system, and a multiplayer with way more players. I remember Bungie talking about how they where inspired by Desert_Combat and sitting 6 players in a helicopter as a feeling they'd like players to have in Halo multiplayer. But it seems they never really where able to go big on the multiplayer due to netcode infrastructure? Maybe Halo on PC could really up the stakes here. But if it's Microsoft Store, then it's sent to die I think. :(
When Halo was released, people factually said that it was the first "real" FPS that worked on consoles. And so when Halo 1 came to PC, many people reported that the control scheme and gameplay was uniquely designed for the slower reaction times of the analog controller movement. The slow gravity, the way the enemies moved in the average gameplay loop. But I did remember a lot of PC players really enjoyed Halo on PC even though it was years later. As matter of a fact, the Halo 1 PC multiplayer Demo was played by people for more than 10 years. Absolutely unbeliveable, that there was a dedicated PC Halo Demo community, that loved the community in the two demo levels.
To my knowledge it was never reported on, but you had many servers and thousands of players, more than a decade after Halos release. It speaks to Halos enduring gameplay and the passionate community that surrounded it (at that time at least).
Which begs the question; Does the mainstream PC audience want Halo PC? Because I don't have any sense of the FPS genre doing logically well. Titanfall 2 plays fucking amazing, and it's beyond me that it has abandoned. I just don't get it when other games play significantly inferior. I don't even own the title myself, but playing it for a free weekend it was just so obvious how good the game is. Halo also has a really unique and distinct multiplayer. So will PC players bite?
IMO COD is of no interest, and Battlefield hasn't come close to replicating the greatness of 1942 2002 - BF2 2005 era BF. So what the hell is going to do well on PC when it comes to Halo? I think everyone saw the potential in a much expanded forge system, and a multiplayer with way more players. I remember Bungie talking about how they where inspired by Desert_Combat and sitting 6 players in a helicopter as a feeling they'd like players to have in Halo multiplayer. But it seems they never really where able to go big on the multiplayer due to netcode infrastructure? Maybe Halo on PC could really up the stakes here. But if it's Microsoft Store, then it's sent to die I think. :(
Reach isn't in the game at all, ODST is in, it's just missing Firefight....for now
The perfect time would have been when Halo was actually a hot competitive game like 10-12 years ago.
343 Industries said in January that their main focus in 2018 is re-launching and "fixing" MCC. Remaking all the menus, fixing multiplayer matching, updating the game with better graphics and performance, etc. as well as we know they are putting MCC on Game Pass sometime this year.
Trust me, the playerbase won't be dead for long.
??? MCC already has splitscreen. I played through all the missions that way. It was a blast.
LAN-coop, not sure, I thought it did have that?
Fixing the MCC is not going to fix the utter disinterest in competitive Halo as an e-sport, to say nothing of the fracture of the fanbase thanks to Halo 4. It's a nice gesture but 343 has wasted all its chances IMO.
It's their store though hence why they're going to to make their games exclusive to it if they want people to use their store. LOL
my man thinks having actual valid complaints is "whining and moaning"
Gonna be a big yikes from me dawg.
Putting it on Game Pass will give people the chance who never played it or sold it to play it. Every multiplayer game I've played (even old ones) on Game Pass have had their MP have a very active playerbase.
I played soooo much Halo PC demo it was amazing! Knowing how to lead your shots according to each player's lag to the host was a skill in itself
I really dont wanna keep dealing with the windows store, can you just put it on steam like you did for KI? Thanks.
The trouble ive had with SoT and others have had with Gears is yet again the culprit of having a shitty storefront.
The trouble ive had with SoT and others have had with Gears is yet again the culprit of having a shitty storefront.
Gears of War 4 has crossplay so it is kind of a given. We actually know that MCC will be on Game Pass because the Xbox official Twitter leaked it with a case of MCC in an Xbox Game Pass ad/commercial. (I think the video was pulled hours later but don't quote me on that), it's going on GP after the big update that fixes MCC happens.
They have already committed to every new 1st party game being Play Anywhere & on Game Pass day one, it would be weird if Halo 6 wasnt.
Isn't Microsoft Build (the Windows conference that gives reasons for developers to build on Windows annually) like next week or the week after? Maybe they will have information to share on a revamped store or something.
Again though they didn't say "the next Halo coming to PC" in the quote in the OP, they said "classic Halo experience coming to PC".
I don't think it's a given. Gears 4 is much more movement focused than aim focused
Could this just be some PR guy that put some misleading words in a statement?
This seems like its almost a confirmation of MCC on PC.
This seems like its almost a confirmation of MCC on PC.
Ah, I can see why you would think that. Although they can very easily make crossplay optional for people who don't want to be destroyed by PC players, like a tickbox option saying "Play with PC players".
People are allowed to get excited about the 10th God of War game or the 5th Uncharted game, but not followups to the Gears of War or Halo franchises. Those just get a "lol".
Got it.
The crossplay game? Yeah, no shit. But if they don't put crossplay on this...well, good luck with that. Age of Empires DE showed how many people are actually willing to use the store and play online without crossplay.
The answer was: very few
MCC is the more likely one considering they're doing so much work on fixing MCC and it's been their focus all year. That and that it's coming to Game Pass this year...
Judging from the news I've read ahead of the Build conference there is nothing to indicate that this would be true. Most of the rumor seems to be about a new Windows 10 mobile device re-introduction which, uh, good fucking luck with that, lol.
I don't think they need to fix it to perfection. Just making it function properly would do.
It's not exactly F2P but it will be on gamepass. I seriously doubt it will have player issues.
If people want to play a game, they are going to use the Microsoft Store if they have to. I've used it a few times lately with Play Anywhere games and it's worked. It's not a great storefront, but it let me get the games I wanted.