During XO18, Phil Spencer said
https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject...spencer-taking-bigger-role-windows-store/amp/
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Phil Spencer: I’m Taking a Bigger Role into Making Windows Store Tailored Towards Gamers [READ OP]
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During XO18, Phil Spencer said
https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject...spencer-taking-bigger-role-windows-store/amp/
As with all things Microsoft and pc gaming. ..
Stop talking about it just do it. Until then it's meaningless. Now about 15 years behind just do it already.
Stop talking about it just do it. Until then it's meaningless. Now about 15 years behind just do it already.
Lose UWP, fix stability, make good offers, broad your library, make a functional ui, disconnect it from OS, stop building a walled garden and we 're game.
That they have no plans to drop their full support of Windows Store for gaming...
Wait for /build
It would be nice if it meant that.
Does this mean the Xbox team will be responsible for their own gaming store? Or will it still be 2 divisions fighting for one bone?
Guess we'll have to see. We've seen promises of improvements (To be fair, we've seen incremental improvements) since 2015. It's time to show the new pc strategy. How are you going to cater to a pc centric crowd? How are you going to solve issues with UWP and the Store? Will games continue to be on Steam? Etc.
Guess we'll have to see. We've seen promises of improvements (To be fair, we've seen incremental improvements) since 2015. It's time to show the new pc strategy. How are you going to cater to a pc centric crowd? How are you going to solve issues with UWP and the Store? Will games continue to be on Steam? Etc.
It means he is finally in charge and can make changes to their plans on PC.
He's always commited .They're always commited. It's like a parody how often they use that term.
I will be pleasantly surprised when they actually have a platform on PC that the audience is comfortable with, but until they prove themselves, this is just more of the same talk we've heard before.
I will be pleasantly surprised when they actually have a platform on PC that the audience is comfortable with, but until they prove themselves, this is just more of the same talk we've heard before.
That's a nice, vague commitment there Phil, especially after a big set piece show where you really didn't even mention the PC.
Windows division needs it to popularize the Windows Store.
Exclusive content will drive the adoption, they want their walled garden to be accepted and the easier way to get this into people's mind is with content you can only find there. And game is an easier proposition than... idk, making MS Office exclusive to UWP lmao
Didn't he say something similar during E3? What division or team is responsible for the Windows Store? Can he really do what he says he's going to do if he's not the VP in charge of the division that develops the Windows store?
If the Windows Store team reports to Rajesh Jha how much influence does Phil Spencer really have?
If the Windows Store team reports to Rajesh Jha how much influence does Phil Spencer really have?
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Would be nice if they actually got their shit together here. It's sad how the store is still having issues after all this time.
He was asked a question. Do you expect him to just not say anything and walk away?
He was asked a question. Do you expect him to just not say anything and walk away?
They are missing millions of dollars because of the store. If they keep fighting over it at Microsoft they won't get anywhere with it. Pushing exclusivity without improving the service is a nice way to make customers mad and unhappy.
Haha. Surely this time will be different. Yesterday was the perfect time to show PC gamers some love and all we got was another vague promise.
You think Satya signed those studio acquisitions cheques so that their products would skip their Store?
Lol.
Sorry, but the store on Xbox is also shit. (But to a lesser degree). On a One X it is a dreadful thing to use.
I'm with others on here, please make Xbox store separate than windows store. I think doing that would do wonders for everyone. Let me manage and purchase XBOX games from within the same setup as Xbox fonscon. Not fight through the bullshit, and office apps to get gears or Halo.
I'll believe it when I see it Philly.
I'll believe it when I see it Philly.
If only they had a conference with which to announce sweeping changes to their PC gaming plan. Too bad they have no such avenue so Phil doesn't have an opportunity to show what exciting things they have in store so he can just give us vague promises.
I gave them a chance when many didn't (mostly to play KI), but this is where I am now.
Make it a store that is not integrated into the OS and I'll consider supporting it. Otherwise, no thanks.
They will have their hands full if they're really commited. More user friendly game downloads and patches, better UI, less compatibility problems, less bullshit like forced Windows 10 updates, better pricing and sales, bigger library, better search engine...
Removing UWP is very unlikely imo but it would be a huge step forward.
Typically I'd call bs coming from Ms but this is Phil Spencer he has more than kept up majority of his promises. So I will wait and see
And boy that KB+M announcement yesterday was a whole bunch of nothing. Teasing a Razer keyboard reveal, then actually only teasing it again for next year.
No PC games ported over to Xbox One to take advantage of KB+M, no Age of Empires, no Rise of Nations.
And for pc gamers there was nothing too. If you are going to talk about Xbox as a platform (Xbox, pc and streaming) you should pay attention to ALL your customers. Where is Gamepass for PC? Where was Age of Empires 4 or even the 2 & 3 remakes? Where was Gears Tactics…
Only thing we got was another mention from Phil that the store sucks. We know.
No PC games ported over to Xbox One to take advantage of KB+M, no Age of Empires, no Rise of Nations.
And for pc gamers there was nothing too. If you are going to talk about Xbox as a platform (Xbox, pc and streaming) you should pay attention to ALL your customers. Where is Gamepass for PC? Where was Age of Empires 4 or even the 2 & 3 remakes? Where was Gears Tactics…
Only thing we got was another mention from Phil that the store sucks. We know.
An app store similar to Google Play or the iOS app store doesn't work at all on desktops, and especially not with PC gaming.
It seems fairly ignorant to hold new regimes responsible for the failures of the past ones. What has Phil Spencer, Nadella and Panos Panay done to disappoint since they've taken the reigns of Xbox?
I said it in another thread but:
Microsoft is bringing most, if not all, of its internally developed games to PC. Nadella is on record saying that Game Pass is coming to PC. Microsoft just purchased two extremely PC centric developers, and has games like Age of Empires and Gears Tactics in development. They just brought Mouse and Keyboard support to Xbox, which suggests they'll have a reason to need those peripherals for consoles.
And Phil Spencer has acknowledged that there are problems with the Microsoft Store, and has said that he has taken on a personal role in working with that team to improve things - especially when it comes to gamers. Their actions seem to indicate that they're legitimately serious about improving their place PC.
I said it in another thread but:
Microsoft is bringing most, if not all, of its internally developed games to PC. Nadella is on record saying that Game Pass is coming to PC. Microsoft just purchased two extremely PC centric developers, and has games like Age of Empires and Gears Tactics in development. They just brought Mouse and Keyboard support to Xbox, which suggests they'll have a reason to need those peripherals for consoles.
And Phil Spencer has acknowledged that there are problems with the Microsoft Store, and has said that he has taken on a personal role in working with that team to improve things - especially when it comes to gamers. Their actions seem to indicate that they're legitimately serious about improving their place PC.
You could divide the problems into two categories
- The philosophy/vision behind it
- The actual bugs, UI and userfriendlyness of it all
It's built as a store for everything on Windows 10. So you can get your Netflix app, your Candy Crush, your progressive web apps and your 100GB games in one place. So it's cluttered, has no focus and it will never be able to tailor to all these different kind of markets.
The programs on the store are UWP's, which are inherently different than what gamers are used to. Normal games are win32's that can often times be tweaked. UWP's are much more closed off.
And this would all be 'alright' for most mainstream consumers.. but the store is filled with problems. Games not being able to download, games downloading all over again, games not starting, Windows updates destroying things, etc.
.. to top it off games are more expensive on the Microsoft Store than they are on any other pc gaming platform because of Play Anywhere.
UWP isn't really the main problem, and frankly from a developers point of view has a lot of benefits. Yeah, the enthusiasts which this place is home to get their modding lives made more difficult, which is certainly an issue but not mainstream.
The real problem is the seemingly stupidly fragile delivery system. Heck, if the delivery system just worked like it was meant to (you press download, game downloads and installs, great. Updates happen automatically, correct drivers are pulled a for you - the basic shit), I think most people would at least suffer using it.
Clearly it's UI isn't as geared towards gaming as Steam, but that wasn't a concern for the Windows team in charge of it.
I never used to have an issue with it initially despite it being clunky, inelegant, and full of junk to sift through, but after some update, I lost the ability for Horizon 3 (and now 4) to even run anymore and no solution fixes it. I literally can't play the game I bought at all anymore.
