In reply to Tim Sweeney trying to hard-sell Phil on dropping F2P Gold paywall to align with the 1984 "fireworks" show lmao
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Phil Spencer to Tim Sweeney in August 2020: "haven't given up" on xCloud for other consoles
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In reply to Tim Sweeney trying to hard-sell Phil on dropping F2P Gold paywall to align with the 1984 "fireworks" show lmao
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It was in response to Tim asking them to change the policy and to tie it to some Fortnite event. They did change the policy, but missed the event
It's inevitable IMO. Assuming Xcloud takes off, MS is gonna want to position it as a competitor to Netflix, Disney+, etc. and put game pass everywhere.
Even if it takes 5-10 years, future of xbox is Game Pass, not consoles.
Even if it takes 5-10 years, future of xbox is Game Pass, not consoles.
Why would they ever give up? Ofc MS wants this.
It doesn't mean Sony or Nintendo are even slightly more motivated than before.
It doesn't mean Sony or Nintendo are even slightly more motivated than before.
Here a pre email btw
Doesn't Tim have people to hawk his game's promotions to other companies? This email reads like an advert or a cold sales call.
Exactly, they will put Game Pass/xCloud anywhere they are able to. Not a surprise at all.
Think he is trying to infirm the upcoming "fireworks show" because august is when they did the Apple stunt to allow direct payments
If they were planning f2p w/o gold then how on earth did they think doubling gold price in January was a good idea ?
Yep, this is basically translating to "Phil Spencer is still pushing to bring xCloud to Switch".
You only need to listen to Satya and when he said that Microsoft's philosophy is to go to where the customer is, rather than getting the customer to come to you.
They don't even need to do that for third party games. They can cut deals to have PlayStation/Switch games added to gamepass and bypass Nintendo and Sony.
Buy now and get 20% off your next purchase atHere a pre email btw
xCloud on other consoles would be a paradigm shift in the industry. I hope it happens... I wish for one day to play Halo with all my different platform buddies :D
Maybe they hoped people would switch to game pass super quickly and then they would kill gold not long after.
Whatever it was it was one of the more baffling decisions MS has made, but glad they saw the light quickly.
No need to assume. It would be way more work, need more resources, and cost a lot more money.
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i still think that was just an extreme method to push more people into gamepass. thankfully it flopped pretty fast
I don't think that will happen it is easier just build the games for Xbox and PC and have them on cloud for other devices. If someone asks them for a native experience they would probably just tell you to buy an Xbox or PC.
Doing what is realistic and already been happening is port begging ?!...but hoping for a whole separate software ecosystem to come to the system is realistic when not even Netflix or Disney+ are on Switch ? lol
Yes, let an intern deal with the head of Xbox and Microsoft's financial policies.
Given the subject matter, no?
I'm just saying I'd prefer to play the games natively than through streaming.
Please list the games where this has already been happening. It's hardly a trend or normality. So yeah, asking for games to be ported is literally port begging.
There's not really much in the way of benefit of running xcloud on a PlayStation than just running it on the smart TV that the vast majority of PlayStations will be connected to. If xcloud was a perfect substitute for playing games on a local console, there wouldn't be an Xbox Series S/X. I think they'd want to do both.
That's more work and as we move away from the cross gen phase impossible on many games I'd imagine.
Agreed, but I've seen the argument now and then that MS wouldn't be bothered with wanting to put services on other consoles, because generic device support would reach far bigger numbers anyway. Not a common argument, but this email should bury the notion. Of course MS would love to put their services on other consoles - the audience on dedicated gaming consoles would, in the short/mid term at least, be far more primed to sign up to services like Xbox's than generic device audiences.
I guess it implies they think it's possible. He could say "we tried but it doesn't seem like it'll happen anytime soon", but he leaves the door open.