I'm okay with that actually?
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Phil Spencer "VR is not a focus of Project Scarlett because our customers aren't asking for it."
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It would be nice if they did at least add support for other headsets, even if they had no interest in developing their own hardware or games for it.
Get SteamVR in there or something lol.
Get SteamVR in there or something lol.
That's fine. I'm not gonna have more than VR platform anyway. Sony just need to get PSVR 2 right.
I'm a little disapointed after it seemed like an Oculus partnership was a done deal (would've loved if I could just plug a Quest into a console and have it work) - but I'd prefer if Microsoft didn't bother if they didn't see demand for it. Plus I don't know if I really want a second headset to deal with - with Sony continuing to invest in PSVR.
I'll be there next gen with Sony's efforts. Can't wait for their next one.
If i really wanted VR id grab one on my PC, PSVR just seems like a cheaper version to me even though it may be good for what its trying to do with the limited power of a PS4
Only a few games that really interest me on VR anyways so id prolly never really buy one :p
Only a few games that really interest me on VR anyways so id prolly never really buy one :p
For something that costs the same as the console lol I think that's pretty good.
Yeah it's around there. But they've also sold like 100 million consoles so that's like 5% of install base.
VR will get bigger, but it's not really at the point of saturation where console support is all that necessary, IMO.
Right so after 3 years on the market it's lagging behind the WiiU for install base. Very mainstream, I can't see why everyone isn't going all in on that.
It just seems too niche to be a major focus. It'd be a nice option especially with the more powerful, next-gen console, but as an Xbox gamer, I have to say that he's right in that I'm not asking for it. It'd be cool if, instead of requiring a proprietary headset like the PSVR, Scarlett were compatible with existing headsets. But again, I don't think they need to focus on something that a very small percentage of people will use.
This is the one thing where Microsoft seems to be missing the ball. A lot more customers will start to ask for it, and this could really be an area where Sony has an advantage if they go all-in with PSVR2.
The other issue is VR does no mesh well with their current biz strategy of making the most content possible available with the widest reach possible. VR's reach is inherently self limiting.
I'm surprised that they aren't at least working on a compatibility deal with Oculus or Valve. They don't have to start developing VR games with 1st party studios, but you should at least be able to plug a headset in to the console and play 3rd party VR titles.
The biggest downside of PSVR is that the headset doesn't even work with PC VR games. If Microsoft could introduce a headset that works on Xbox and PC, they would have a pretty massive advantage.
All that said, I don't think this will hurt them that much. The technology isn't really there for wide mainstream acceptance.
The biggest downside of PSVR is that the headset doesn't even work with PC VR games. If Microsoft could introduce a headset that works on Xbox and PC, they would have a pretty massive advantage.
All that said, I don't think this will hurt them that much. The technology isn't really there for wide mainstream acceptance.
At least he's not promoting the new console on VR and then never mentioning it again until after launch. Smarter move this time around.
PSVR's great, so it would've been cool to see Xbox be able to get in on the amazing kinds of experiences it enables.
PSVR's great, so it would've been cool to see Xbox be able to get in on the amazing kinds of experiences it enables.
Nah they'll be fine. VR isn't some big thing. They have plenty of time.
They could either partner with an existing hardware manufacturer, or implement SteamVR into Scarlet.
The lack of VR modes in Ace Combat and RE7 probably lost them some sales on XB1, though. It's small now, but it's a frontier of gaming that is going to be making the headlines in the next six months. We'll see!
While I do understand this point of view, I think PSVR2 is potentially the most exciting thing about PS5. It'd also be nice to see Microsoft enter the space because it would mean greater incentive for devs, which is a good thing for the medium.
I don't think MS wants to heavily invest in something right now where like 5% of their customers buy it.
I agree for MS they dont need to worry about it. They need to by focused on their next console launch.
Meanwhile, other platforms that have VR arent too disappointed. Yeah it could be more popular, but price can help fix that.
So....does that mean no single player games from MS, Phil.....?
Oh, see those are different. He wasnt talking those millions. He's talking those other millions.
Meanwhile, other platforms that have VR arent too disappointed. Yeah it could be more popular, but price can help fix that.
So....does that mean no single player games from MS, Phil.....?
Oh, see those are different. He wasnt talking those millions. He's talking those other millions.
I was thinking about last night how around launch it was said that the Xbox One was supposed to get VR support.
I hope Scarlett will still allow for it to be possible but I definitely don't think it needs to be a focus right now.
I hope Scarlett will still allow for it to be possible but I definitely don't think it needs to be a focus right now.
Microsoft pretty much make it a rule to never chase after an unproven market. I think in their mind, VR would have taken off by now if it would have.
It makes sense. But they may add VR support later. Not exactly difficult I just think if they make their own headset later on they will be lagging behind Sony in all their advancements in VR software development. If Sony gets Half Life: Alyx ported to ps5 it will be a huge differentiator between them.
Anyway I love VR and hope they aren't dumb and don't stay too far away from it when it gets more and more mainstream.
^though I would prefer if they just supported SteamVR and didn't bother with their own headset. Just support the PC ones.
Anyway I love VR and hope they aren't dumb and don't stay too far away from it when it gets more and more mainstream.
^though I would prefer if they just supported SteamVR and didn't bother with their own headset. Just support the PC ones.
That's fine. It's not like it won't be created with the ability for them to add VR down the line should the market move aggressively in that direction.
All it needs is a USB 3 and an hdmi output on the back and they can do whatever they want mid-gen.
All it needs is a USB 3 and an hdmi output on the back and they can do whatever they want mid-gen.
It's fine to not support it, of course, but I don't like to think of games as solely being communal experiences. I largely play single-player stuff and don't really have to talk about it with others or anything to get the most out of it.
This, too. "It's not our focus" is much different from "We're not supporting it at all," and right now it's the latter.
This, too. "It's not our focus" is much different from "We're not supporting it at all," and right now it's the latter.
Makes sense.
VR is a niche platform at the moment and will continue to be for a number of years.
VR is a niche platform at the moment and will continue to be for a number of years.
