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Phil Spencer was on the Kinda Funny XCast - Talks loss of X1 gen, Redfall reception, and more
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Idk how Phil thought Redfall would get scores double digit higher in their mock reviews. No one could've played this game and honestly thought it would be an 8 or higher. The game is terrible on so many levels. They need to get some new mock reviewers if they thought this was going to be an 8 or higher
lmao at "everyone suffers because this creative project is bad". lol what the fuck, this project wasn't creative
All things considered the response regarding Redfall was better than I was expected. And Redfall not being abandoned sounds idk promising?
But actions speak louder than words however, lets see where we are at a year or two from now for other Xbox games and Redfall itself.
But actions speak louder than words however, lets see where we are at a year or two from now for other Xbox games and Redfall itself.
I'm at 3 crashes already after roughly 3 hours of otherwise shitty gameplay. Unlike Phil, I don't deem that an acceptable average. Zero crashes would be acceptable.
Yeah, it's referesing that how much emotion and honesty is coming through.
He feels raw and upsey giving a peak into how hard the job is.
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This is a great interview. Phil's not happy at all. And kudos to vicious696 for calling out the games that were announced years ago and then just seemingly vanished (like Avowed, Contraband and Perfect Dark).
Ongoing recap by IDontBeatGames
Full rundown so far:
First question was an update about the CMA stuff --
Second question: Why didn't they delay Redfall?
Third question: What do you mean that you're *disappointed* in Redfall? And what extend do you hope that you can make Redfall better down the road? --
Fourth question: What is the balance of you showing something that you know is going to be years down the road and providing updates of that, what are the lessons learned from the last Showcase?
Fifth comment/response: We're tired of hearing "we have to wait for next year for Xbox to succeed"
Sixth Question: What is the formal process of when something like Redfall doesn't land? What is the "what went wrong" post mortem process?
Seventh Question: Do you think you've put too much focus on the PC side and not given the console side of things as much love as it deserves?
Eighth Question: Tell us something positive!
First question was an update about the CMA stuff --
Second question: Why didn't they delay Redfall?
Third question: What do you mean that you're *disappointed* in Redfall? And what extend do you hope that you can make Redfall better down the road? --
Fourth question: What is the balance of you showing something that you know is going to be years down the road and providing updates of that, what are the lessons learned from the last Showcase?
Fifth comment/response: We're tired of hearing "we have to wait for next year for Xbox to succeed"
Sixth Question: What is the formal process of when something like Redfall doesn't land? What is the "what went wrong" post mortem process?
Seventh Question: Do you think you've put too much focus on the PC side and not given the console side of things as much love as it deserves?
Eighth Question: Tell us something positive!
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He'd probably have made an unfunny joke about how Xbox players deserve it for several minutes, like he did with the TLoU Part 1 PC port.
The actual hosts are doing a much better job imo…
Edit: Well Parris is.
It's a valid interpretation of what he's saying, it's not hard to infer that, come on. Now, it doesn't mean it is 100% true but it certainly is not "not what he's saying AT ALL".
It's still a creative project. That term doesn't refer to the originality. It just means that they created a piece of art or media.
Glad to hear the interview is pretty blunt. Looking forward to watching it later.
Didn't Xbox just have their two best quarters of revenue ever? He seems to be doing something right, even with stuff like this.
Didn't Xbox just have their two best quarters of revenue ever? He seems to be doing something right, even with stuff like this.
This is completely unnecessary and just plays into the worst parts of online discourse.
I obviously can't speak to individuals -- I'm just trying to explain his comment, as it seems lots of people are misunderstanding it (not you specifically).
not at all, if anything we were happy to see that Xbox and Phil specifically still wanted to do this scheduled interview despite the past few weeks of bad news
what a great interview. still can't believe there are fans out there who want to see Phil out of Xbox. the question about the console race and digital library was beyond what you would usually think a leader would be honest about, and he was spot on. it's crazy how there are consumers out there who have 0 idea how the console market works
why would it stop? Era still thinks Sea of Thieves is bad and not Banjo, which is waht Rare "should" do, and Grounded is "lol multiplayer survival game" and not what Obisdian should do.
it's like you don't know where you are.
Yeah point is the game isn't even close to being a 70. 70 is a good game. This game is just plain bad. It honestly should have an average in the 50s
Phil, baby, people don't want you to be fired for being overpaid. There's a whole host of other reasons.
I think this is a broader point about using the full scale of scores in game reviews, which no one ever does, sadly.
Parris is one of best in the business at interviews and this just demonstrates that. Also, he is clearly very passionate about Xbox and cares about the platform.
It is still a creative project. It not being outstanding or lacking impact doesn't mean it is not.
I think if this game passed the smell test wrt their internal review metrics they need to take a real good look at them and rebuild those metrics cause those mock reviewers were not anywhere near the public or the press
You should read the article, where ultimately he says Xbox is responsible for Redfall.
On PC it does. On Series X it's 2 points away from the 50s. It's being scored fairly imo.
Striving towards the status quo is not a great goal to have. If that's their mindset, it's not surprising so many Game Pass games are mediocre at best.
He literally said Starfield was engaged with their tech team early. Also said he wished his team was there for Harvey and the team before they got involved.
I don't really think so. There are plenty of reasons why those games weren't as scrutinized as Redfall.
That was an interesting moment, yeah. I think it might be the first time I've seen him - or indeed any platform exec - endorse that analysis that some analysts had put out in advance of this gen, about console marketshares possibly stabilizing.
In that there seemed to be an appeal to Xbox fans not to expect Xbox to suddenly out-Sony Sony in the console business, that the focus is on different paths. I don't know if that will be heard though, I think the fans - in terms of their perceptions of 'success' etc. - are still more strongly tied to the console business he might like in that way.
