PhilosophyTube comes out as a Trans Woman
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Thank you very much. I thought it was her, but I wasn't sure. I wonder if some of the situation that she was in with her ex may have come from her ex realizing Abigail was Abigail before Abigail transitioned. Given the discussion about what happened to her, it might explain some of the actions her ex took against her.
I'm glad from actually being able to sit down tonight and watch this in full that it seems like she'll be keeping up her old videos. They really helped me get through some rough times and I'm really excited about her future endeavors as philosophy tube.
Her video for the press is great too
Edit: Her comment about the kid is really powerful, I hope the dude is doing well today. I remember after I was broken up with by my first significant girlfriend after leaving high school I really got into breadtube and found contrapoints and philosophy tube and both have served to build me back up. That girl came from a severely conservative background and as a result, I played the part. I had come from a pretty conservative background too so it was a well-fitting glove for me when I was with her. But after she left me I found channels like philosophy tube that taught me all about the ways I felt when I was lying to myself about how the world is. And while I still am a cis male I found some real appreciation for the world the channel opened to me. Her mental health and suicide video spoke to me when I was at my lowest point. I appreciated her even back when philosophy tube was a masculine role model but now I really feel like all of this is really inspiring. If it's what makes her comfortable she should rage on for it, and she shouldn't worry that we have her back.
Maybe it's a bit too sappy but I live in the deep south of the US so it's hard to come by content like this so I'm eternally grateful I found it. Whatever Abigail does in the future I'll be there day 1 like I have been for so many of her projects now.
Her video for the press is great too
Edit: Her comment about the kid is really powerful, I hope the dude is doing well today. I remember after I was broken up with by my first significant girlfriend after leaving high school I really got into breadtube and found contrapoints and philosophy tube and both have served to build me back up. That girl came from a severely conservative background and as a result, I played the part. I had come from a pretty conservative background too so it was a well-fitting glove for me when I was with her. But after she left me I found channels like philosophy tube that taught me all about the ways I felt when I was lying to myself about how the world is. And while I still am a cis male I found some real appreciation for the world the channel opened to me. Her mental health and suicide video spoke to me when I was at my lowest point. I appreciated her even back when philosophy tube was a masculine role model but now I really feel like all of this is really inspiring. If it's what makes her comfortable she should rage on for it, and she shouldn't worry that we have her back.
Maybe it's a bit too sappy but I live in the deep south of the US so it's hard to come by content like this so I'm eternally grateful I found it. Whatever Abigail does in the future I'll be there day 1 like I have been for so many of her projects now.
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Yeah, I guess so. It felt nice having someone you really identified with, but ultimately it's a personal journey.
Haven't seen the new vid...but I don't know how much I want to right this very instance.
It feels like someone has kind of "died". That's just me though.
A congratulations and props for the sheer bravery nonetheless.
It feels like someone has kind of "died". That's just me though.
A congratulations and props for the sheer bravery nonetheless.
But no one died. She is just finally at the point where she is brave enough to be her real self. All that is lost is the facade she kept up until this point.
But you are certainly not the first to feel that way when a trans person comes out.
Please keep these thoughts to yourself
Trans people don't need to hear you think our coming out is funeral like.
Unless you care to elaborate, I’m filing this away as “valuable” input (aka random unprovoked snark).
Because it is misgendering and to spend even a second trying to debate that is getting so deep in the weeds. It's pointless, a waste of time and frankly insulting to the person pointing out the misgendering.
Not to mention what you're actually describing would be agender which is one version of gender non binary but not the totality of it.
They/them is not inherently devoid of all gender, gender neutrality is not inherently genderless
And now see the can of worms you've just opened.
Misgendering applies to using any pronoun other than the ones the person themselves uses. Ergo saying they about someone who is a she... is Misgendering.
The only thing that "died" was a façade a woman felt obligated to put up due to societal norms out of fear, so now her real self can be front and center.
It's wonderful, no one should have to feel obligated by society to be fake to live and enjoy life.
I was just trying to suggest a better method of communicating essentially the same idea as misgendering but in a way that helped the offender better understand how it's wrong, since I think most people would have a kneejerk reaction to being told they've misgendered someone when they were using gender-neutral pronouns... by "disgendering" I didn't mean to say that they were attributing agender-ness to the individual, but instead were showing a disrespectful hesitance towards using their requested gendered pronouns.
You're right that it's quite a can of worms, and I don't want to derail the thread working through it... so I'll just say I think I have a better appreciation for why my train of thought has some issues and was probably needlessly pedantic . Thanks for indulging me with some insight as to what you took issue with regarding my comment so that I can improve as a person instead of just getting angry at you.
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This is SO awesome! Also, could anyone point me in the direction of the Contrapoints controversy that's being mentioned in the thread? I'm afraid I didn't follow.
That is super ignorant. I'm sure some transgender individuals might want to know so if they choose, can help navigate or assist those who happen to feel this way. You don't speak for all transgender people.
Cis people love to grieve when trans people come out and it's bullshit.
Opinion | Celebrate Your Kid’s Transition. Don’t Grieve It. (Published 2019)
We didn’t die.
You know what's ignorant
Comparing us coming out to death.
But I'm glad you think saying awful things is ok because maybe some trans person can come hold your hand and save you.
Like wtf... the vast majority of us don't want to have being our trueselves being treated as if we've fucking died...
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Cis people love to grieve when trans people come out and it's bullshit.
Opinion | Celebrate Your Kid’s Transition. Don’t Grieve It. (Published 2019)
We didn’t die.www.nytimes.com
Again, no-one here speaks for all transgender people.Likewise no-one is asking to be held or saved, nor said anything about it being a good or proper to feel this way.
Just like admit you said something really shitty.
Like by your argument all transphobia is ok to say out loud because some trans person might want to be the magic mentor for the transphobe.
User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia, hostility, and thread derailment over multiple posts; prior bans for inflammatory behavior including a severe ban for misogyny.
Is this really the level of discourse we are at? Ok excelsiorlef. I'm a shitty person who says shitty things. My shittiness is boundless across time and space.
Coming out to people you love and having them act as if they’ve somehow lost the person they’ve loved all these years, even though we’re right the fuck there, is a trans experience that is far more common than you seem to think. And I can say from personal experience that it is so deeply painful to make yourself vulnerable, maybe the most vulnerable you’ll ever be, and have people all but blame you for killing somebody rather than supporting you. We don’t have to speak for all trans people to say that what you said is fucked up.
I mean what you said is objectively shitty. You don't die when you finally can be true to yourself, in fact that's insulting to compare it to death in any way. There's absolutely nothing to argue here.
User Banned (1 month): rationalizing transphobia
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Fuck it, whatever. I guess I'm probably about to catch a ban.
Fuck it, whatever. I guess I'm probably about to catch a ban.
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You know what everyone forget what I said... I'm wrong. I'm wrong to have said I had a feeling of any sorts. I'm wrong here. These are wrong thoughts and feelings to exist within me.
I apologise.
I apologise.
Well God_Of_Phwoar I'd suggest you entirely retract this 100%. These are totally improper feelings to exist within you. These are absolutely truly sinful feelings.
Look, I describe a reaction that some people will have. As I hope I mader clear, it's important to look inwards and realise why you feel that way, and why it isn't helpful.
You couldn't even keep the charade of your gake apology up for like 5 minutes lmao.
I mean, it's OK. It's fine if you feel that way but maybe there's another way to express it. I don't know, something other than death. Something more positive instead would be much better. For all you know, she'll act and be exactly the same way she was before, only in different clothes and voice, so that exact same person that was in the old videos will still be in the newer ones.
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Looking inward means inward not posting it on the internet.
Did we need to know you're annoyed and disappointed that a YouTuber you watch is Trans?
No.
Cis people love to make our transitions about them and their feels.
Again, she, not they.
No don't actually say you'll miss her sexy man look either wtf.
Yeah... don't know what you are talking about. That was as genuine as they come.
And you know what hey look what time it is... time to whip myself.
Didn't correct the absurd recommendation to talk about how you'll miss her being a hot man...
Polite request, stop posting in this thread. Your initial post was damaging and harmful, you've failed to apologise or even begin to understand why comparing a coming out, a celebration of someone being free, is to you, similar to someone "dying" is shitty.
So please, leave the thread.
You quoted the wrong person
Edit: wait what his user name changed lol weir
You could literally just apologise, then stop. Just stop. This extra "omg I am such a bad person" schitck you're attaching to the end of every reply just makes it a) insincere as fuck b) about you. Which it isn't. Like, if you sincerely wish to apologise, just say "Hey, I'm sorry." and ghost.