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PlayStation 4 Backwards Compatability for PS5 won't be 100% at launch, PS5 too fast for some titles, tweaks and testing on game-by-game basis
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That to me reads that it's system level support where virtually all of the 100 games tested pass, and there fore the likely the same ratio of the entire library pass, while titles that don't might need to be patched on a case by case basis.
it says they tested the top100 games based on playtime. It doesn't say they had to do anything special.
I'm assuming most games will work. They just tested these 100 and it showed No issues. Some games might simply because of this being new hardware etc.
I know there's some confusion with PS4 BC....but is it confirmed that PS3, PS2 & PS1 BC is off the table?
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Hah. Sub 100 PS4 games on PS5
OVER 100 360 games worked on XB1 when they launched their BC programn.
news.xbox.com
Sony really pissing in the corn flakes with this news
OVER 100 360 games worked on XB1 when they launched their BC programn.
Introducing Your First 104 Xbox One Backward Compatible Games - Xbox Wire
At Xbox, we believe that gaming is universal and should be enjoyed by everyone, everywhere. Our philosophy since launching Xbox One two years ago has been to put gamers at the center of everything we do and create the best, most seamless gaming experience possible. We’re taking a major step...
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Sony really pissing in the corn flakes with this news
Thanks.
Should be more diverse than sales then!
I mean, I know me, I'll buy this day one regardless but this is actually worse than I thought on the BC front. Massive disappointment if they don't get this squared by launch.
Yeah, it's very confusing. Cerny is definitely talking about boost mode in the talk but that blog post seems to contradict him.
I'm going to assume they'll correct it.
This confirms that at this time, PS5 is not fully BC with PS4. Of a sample of 100, almost all will be "playable".
WOOF.
Wow, really terrible messaging, and disappointing BC isn't going to be straightforward. This will have a big impact on when I buy the system since I have so much more to play on PS4. And based on the past, there's no reason to be confident that Sony will make big improvements to BC over time either.
I think people still had hope. There really is no reason they cant run a ps1 and ps2 emulator tbh.
Wait so people were originally right now? That all ps4 games won't be there. The ps blog seems to say that.
No not necessarily
this talk was for devs, we should see more on OS and backwards compatibility in another conference that is gamer oriented soon
Anyhow I think some of you are overestimating how much of users' library are going to be affected. Most of current PS4 players won't even see a difference in their daily usage at launch if the 100 most played games (which should mean most GaaS games etc) are available at launch period.
Obviously, we will be noticing it much more as niche core/hardcore gamers but the available library should be expanding at a quick pace, depending on Sony making it a priority or not.
Obviously, we will be noticing it much more as niche core/hardcore gamers but the available library should be expanding at a quick pace, depending on Sony making it a priority or not.
Well, my excitement for the PS5 has dropped considerably. Unless they have some great feature announcements they're planning to unveil at a later date, I think I'll put off my PS5 purchase until FF7R2 at the earliest.
Cerny and others haven't said anything but judging from the pic shown by Cerny, unless things change, only PS4 and PS4 Pro game enhancements will be BC. This doesn't take into account if that 100 number means only 100 PS4 games at launch will be BC or soemthing else
I don't think they are, the truth is we just don't know but it seems like it will have ps4 compatibility and it sounded like there was a top 100 games were boosted and the rest were playable.
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This was the original title I went with lol before I got it changed cuz I thought I was wrong
He never says all and they won't ever say that or 100% as that would open them up to a lawsuit if there was even 1 game that didn't.
Id be lying if i said i wasn't a little dissapointed. I think microsoft said that all existing xbox one and any 360 or og back compt games would run on the series x. Im confident that sony will improve this service and that more games will come over, but to start with the offerings are a bit meager in comparison to their competition
It doesn't matter what they've said, it won't be 100%. Not even the GBC was 100% BC with the GB.
How vague.
Is the Sony version of Smart Delivery confirmed has there been a definitive answer that I have missed?
Tell me Sony you cowards!
Is the Sony version of Smart Delivery confirmed has there been a definitive answer that I have missed?
Tell me Sony you cowards!
Where are you getting this? It has been communicated multiple times that everything playable on Xbox One will be BC on XSX including BC OG Xbox and X360 games.
Got it, and wearing it with pride!
Well played everyone. Congrats to Colbert.
Still crazy they're pushing clocks to 2.2Ghz+, I wonder how sustainable they are.
Since they've only talked about top played PS4 games, how low are the chances for stuff like Gravity Rush 2 to be BC?
Its really disappointing. Full BC with PS4 was a big selling point for me since I didn't own that console and even if the launch lineup isn't amazing I could've picked a lot of exclusives I didn't play yet.
Its really disappointing. Full BC with PS4 was a big selling point for me since I didn't own that console and even if the launch lineup isn't amazing I could've picked a lot of exclusives I didn't play yet.
Yeah I mean after this blog post came out that reverted opinions again. I guess new old title :P
It's not that it won't be BC. They've simply tested the top 100 so far and a couple have had issues.
Even if that is the case, I expect the BC solution in terms of XB1 to XSX to be a lot more consistent than the way Sony is talking right now.
The single biggest thing I was hoping to learn was BC implementation and I can't say the little information we got about it was exciting. :/
I never should have convinced myself Sony was saving its legacy catalog for the PS5.
Specs look fine. But man. I don't know. I wanted this to be a "PLAYSTATION" in big letters that unified years of the brand in to a single new machine. If PS4 > PS5 was perfect that would be something but so far that's still unclear and confusing.
I never should have convinced myself Sony was saving its legacy catalog for the PS5.
Specs look fine. But man. I don't know. I wanted this to be a "PLAYSTATION" in big letters that unified years of the brand in to a single new machine. If PS4 > PS5 was perfect that would be something but so far that's still unclear and confusing.
At launch, evidently very low. However, over the life cycle of PS5 products, I would guess that Sony games, even the less popular ones, should be amongst the most obvious ones to make the transition.
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The whole "testing process" and "expanding BC" could be in the leadup to launch from now till then though. Nothing explictly states that is strictly post-launch though getting 4000 odd games ready for launch seems super unreasonable. MS spent the better part of this gen working on the BC stuff with a dedicated team so this ain't the kind of thing that you just muster out of thin air.
Countless times I have argued on this forum how bc is not a given with consoles because they are not like PC. And here we are now.
I hope they can improve on that, I'm not going to buy the system if not every PS4 game I own will run on Ps5.
I hope they can improve on that, I'm not going to buy the system if not every PS4 game I own will run on Ps5.
But is that like total playtime overall? Average playtime per user?
If it's total playtime, games we know were tested with pretty much 100% certainty in no particular order
Fortnite
GTA V
COD (all of them)
Madden (all of them)
2K (all of them)
FIFA (all of them)
Red Dead Redemption 2
Destiny
Destiny 2
Minecraft
Apex Legends
Overwatch? (Would this be more PC centric?)
Battlefield (at least 1)
Rocket League
Actually they have in fact said all xb1 games will play on x with the ONLY exception being kinect only games. So if you wanna count that vs the thousands of games instantly playable (some even getting enhanced with ray tracing etc) on XSX then sure lol
So your right xbox back compat for series x is 99.999999999999999% of xbox one
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They didn't talk about it, but they used the example of PS2 hardware in the PS3 as an example of the "wrong approach" to BC. I wouldn't get your hopes up.
This was one of the biggest news items out of that presentation for me. No native back compat, only title by title basis. Hugely deflating.
Sony already supports it, Smart Delivery is nothing but a fancy word for cross-gen cross-buy. Whether Sony and other publishers will support it remains to be seen, 0 word on it so far.
that's not tales from his ass, that's accurate and has been throughout the life of backwards compatibility. not every game will run.
What? All XBO games will work on XBX, and the BC catalogue of original and xbox 360 games will move over aswell.
I had kinda made my peace with no PS1/PS2/PS3 BC, since the PS2-on-PS4 re-releases made it pretty clear Sony didn't have any interest in supporting older games in a way that they couldn't get a second purchase out of it.
However, I didn't foresee Sony being unable to commit to full PS4 backwards compatibility, and absolutely opens the door back open for Microsoft. Especially if it turns out that there's no general backwards compatibility, and only a selection of PS4 games work, which will pale in comparison to the Series X's "everything that runs on a Xbox One will work from day 1" commitment.
However, I didn't foresee Sony being unable to commit to full PS4 backwards compatibility, and absolutely opens the door back open for Microsoft. Especially if it turns out that there's no general backwards compatibility, and only a selection of PS4 games work, which will pale in comparison to the Series X's "everything that runs on a Xbox One will work from day 1" commitment.