What exactly is the news here? It was confirmed in February that PS5 will use AMD's 8-core CPU based on Zen 2 cores. The 16 threads part is logical to assume given how AMD CPUs work.
What exactly is the news here? It was confirmed in February that PS5 will use AMD's 8-core CPU based on Zen 2 cores. The 16 threads part is logical to assume given how AMD CPUs work.
for all my UK friends hoping it's not more than £450, I have bad news for you.. post Brexit it will be closer to £600, plus 3 goats, 4 chickens and your firstborn!..
Previous to this news, do you have a links that point to an official confirmation on this?
It was in the WIRED exclusive back in February.
"The CPU is based on the third generation of AMD's Ryzen line and contains eight cores of the company's new 7nm Zen 2 microarchitecture. The GPU, a custom variant of Radeon's Navi family,"
Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation
Don't expect it anytime in 2019, but the next PlayStation console is well on its way—and it's packing ray-tracing support and a loadtime-killing solid-state hard drive.www.wired.com
It was in the WIRED exclusive back in February.
"The CPU is based on the third generation of AMD's Ryzen line and contains eight cores of the company's new 7nm Zen 2 microarchitecture. The GPU, a custom variant of Radeon's Navi family,"
Exclusive: What to Expect From Sony's Next-Gen PlayStation
Don't expect it anytime in 2019, but the next PlayStation console is well on its way—and it's packing ray-tracing support and a loadtime-killing solid-state hard drive.www.wired.com
Anything that you think is "logical to assume" about a technical specification has probably instead been the subject of dozens of discussions containing two (or more) sides that eternally circled around the same set of arguments for and against the assumption. Confirmation about something that was previously only a logical assumption (and therefore open to question regardless of how silly you'd imagine those questioners to be) is news.What exactly is the news here? It was confirmed in February that PS5 will use AMD's 8-core CPU based on Zen 2 cores. The 16 threads part is logical to assume given how AMD CPUs work.
That is not the sames news, as it didn't confirm the 16 threads.
AMD CPUs follow a multi-thread approach. Anyone with a little bit of hardware knowledge would have zero doubts that PS5's Zen 2 CPU would not feature multi-threading.
This is a semi custom design, sony could have disabled multi threading if they wantedAMD CPUs follow a multi-thread approach. Anyone with a little bit of hardware knowledge would have zero doubts that PS5's Zen 2 CPU would not feature multi-threading.
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I'ts not like games won't work on anything less than 8core/16threads the day ps5/scarlett will be out. Your CPU is pretty beefy and will do good for a long time, don't worry about it.Thanks for the estimate. I have an original RTX 2080 with an i7-8700K, so my CPU is the only thing I might have to consider getting a change soon.
yeah 499
Why would they have done so when most modern CPU's have multi-threading capabilities. Disabling such a feature would be somewhat bold and idiotic I would argue.This is a semi custom design, sony could have disabled multi threading if they wanted
I don't mind giving up my first born, but no one's touching my goats and chickens.for all my UK friends hoping it's not more than £450, I have bad news for you.. post Brexit it will be closer to £600, plus 3 goats, 4 chickens and your firstborn!..
Idk, price, power consumption, etc. there could be many reasonsWhy would they have done so when most modern CPU's have multi-threading capabilities. Disabling such a feature would be somewhat bold and idiotic I would argue.
There could be those reasons and I wouldn't rule out lowering technical aspects to keep price reasonable but at the same time their very clear messaging has been saying expect a decent jump in power. For that to happen the specs need to be considerably better than the PS4 Pro, and with an SSD coming into that playing field the price is going to be high.Idk, price, power consumption, etc. there could be many reasons
The standard meridian is 4 turnips for a chicken, or 50 groats, and about 12 turnips for a goat or 150 groats, your firstborn can usually be had for a couple of turnips, or, can be swapped out for a pig and half a horse! ;)
It's kind of amazing that we have 15 pages anyway, even before the February Wired article there were reasons to believe both next gen consoles would use Zen 2, not to mention Jaguar also had 8 cores/AMD CPUs follow a multi-thread approach. Anyone with a little bit of hardware knowledge would have zero doubts that PS5's Zen 2 CPU would not feature multi-threading.
It's kind of amazing that we have 15 pages anyway, even before the February Wired article there were reasons to believe both next gen consoles would use Zen 2, not to mention Jaguar also had 8 cores/16 threads. Clock speed is what matters, and we don't know yet.
No quite, clock speeds are important but i wont matter without a good architectureIt's kind of amazing that we have 15 pages anyway, even before the February Wired article there were reasons to believe both next gen consoles would use Zen 2, not to mention Jaguar also had 8 cores/16 threads. Clock speed is what matters, and we don't know yet.
I7? those configurations in laptops are like $1700! I'm looking at. Surface right now.
sure this this is gonna costs $500??! I'm guessing it might be $600
Outside of the US? Sure.
True, which is why I'm more curious about RDNA, I'm getting the impression that it's not going to be a huge increment.No quite, clock speeds are important but i wont matter without a good architecture
Mate, don't be an aggressive dick for no reason. I didn't mention anything about anything revolving around the UK, especially not the price of a console outside of it. For all you and I know it could $449.99 in the US and therefore around £400 in the UK.The world doesn'r revolve around the UK mate, so if it's $499 it will be 499€ and hence between £450-£499.
And that goes for both the PS5 and the next-Xbox, so not advantadge in prioce for any of them
7700k is still good cpu for gaming. Do you need upgrade now? If not, wait for Zen 3 next year.Might be a bit Oot, but now that we know PS5 is a 8 core 16 threads console, what would be the better upgrade from a 7700k between a 3700x/3800X and a 9700K ? ( 16 Gigs of 3000Mhz DDR4 and RTX 2070 to play at 1440p ultrawide and 4K )
Mate, don't be an aggressive dick for no reason. I didn't mention anything about anything revolving around the UK, especially not the price of a console outside of it. For all you and I know it could $449.99 in the US and therefore around £400 in the UK.
You will be completely fine with 6c/12t on Intel CPU for next gen unless you are aiming at 100fps+ then it could become a bottleneck.Thanks for the estimate. I have an original RTX 2080 with an i7-8700K, so my CPU is the only thing I might have to consider getting a change soon.
You will be completely fine with 6c/12t on Intel CPU for next gen unless you are aiming at 100fps+ then it could become a bottleneck.
Nice Tks for the clarification guys...I'm still salty a Surface laptop costs that much, but I'm getting PS5 days one!Don't forget Intel tax lol. They've had a problem with high prices for a while now. Instead look at the Ryzen 3700x. It's a much more reasonable $350ish depending. And that's a very similar CPU to what we'll be getting. It is an excellent CPU, not quite as good for gaming as an i7 although, like, barely.
Although of course in consoles, the boxes will need to run them a lot cooler, which means lower clock speeds, which means the CPU doesn't quite have to be as good. Heck I believe it would mean they'd have an easier time with yields since even if a piece of silicon can't run at the rated speed for a sold desktop CPU at 3.6 or whatever it is GHz, it wouldn't matter because they'd only need like, idk lets say 2.4GHz. I'm talking a bit out of thin air here but you get the general picture. We won't get literal top end CPUs in terms of performance per se, but we will get the same architecture, basically the same CPUs in general, just a bit slower in order to fit in a console. Should result in something a bit cheaper for Sony and Microsoft.
Also, bulk pricing. If Microsoft and Sony can get AMD bulk product for something they kind of basically already make, and don't even require a ton of R&D on, you bet they're going to get a MUCH better price for them.
Ok thanks :) It's not that I really need it now, but I want to buy the next generation 3080ti for cyberpunk 2077, and knowing that I will need to change my CPU since game design will change to accommodate more cores thanks to next gen console, I'd rather not have to buy all of this at the same time. But if you think zen 3 will be available next year, it is indeed better to wait !7700k is still good cpu for gaming. Do you need upgrade now? If not, wait for Zen 3 next year.
I have 6700k and i planing to upgrade after PS5 launch.
I just hope that my R5 2600 + 1070 can hold 1080p60 for next gen titles...
Your CPU and GPU are weaker than next gen consoles, and most of those games will probably run games in checkerboard 4k 30 in order to push for better graphics, so sorry but i would say that 1080p 60 is going to be impossible, maybe 1080p30 will.I just hope that my R5 2600 + 1070 can hold 1080p60 for next gen titles...
Thanks for the estimate. I have an original RTX 2080 with an i7-8700K, so my CPU is the only thing I might have to consider getting a change soon.
Got a 8700K myself and while I don't plan to keep it that long it could very well be good enough to last the whole next gen or at least for the next few years. Clocks are high and there's a reasonable chance games won't be allowed to access all cores/threads on the new consoles because some will be reserved for the OS. Also CPU-dependent details like the draw distance can always be lowered.
Same.What are the rumors on the next XBox on this? Less, same, more?
Well, since I just did my first PC build, I'm glad I opted for a 9900k instead of the 9700k. Hopefully I can keep up through the end of next gen.
Your PC takes more cycles out for the OS usage than a console would reserve for its OS.Got a 8700K myself and while I don't plan to keep it that long it could very well be good enough to last the whole next gen or at least for the next few years. Clocks are high and there's a reasonable chance games won't be allowed to access all cores/threads on the new consoles because some will be reserved for the OS. Also CPU-dependent details like the draw distance can always be lowered.
Lol not a chance. 16 at best.I expect it to be 32GB.
24GB GDDR6 and 8GB DDR4 for OS
or
32GB GDDR6