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PlayStation 5 Confirmed To Sport 8 Cores / 16 Threads CPU; Full Reveal Coming Next Year
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It will be enough for playing games at the same (or slightly better) framerate as the console versions.
Games that are 30 fps on console will probably not run at 60 fps though (some might, but not all).
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Screw ND (well, not really!) I wanna see Kratos's beard get even more glorious the next game! Just imagine the facial hair follicle glory that next-gen models will present!!
Nah screw Kratos. I need to see every individual thread on Spidey's suit
Ryzen 5 8/16
NVIDIA 2070 (Maybe Super)
PCIE4 SSD
This is of course if you want to match performance at launch. Mid to late gen console will eclipse this performance profile.
Hey everyone, I have a question that occured to me today: will PS5 enable us to capture video from HDR games without altering the colour tones? Currently if you click the share button and capture video of a HDR game, it outputs it with very saturated colours as a result.
I also want PS5 DVR to support 60fps. We survived an entire generation of 30fps-only videos.
CPU performance-wise PS5's 8C/16T might be more or less like Ryzen 5 3600 due to being clocked lower. Which means about ~3.5-4x more powerful than Pentium G4560.
GPU performance-wise PS5 might be more or less close to 5700XT with the ability to perform ray-tracing. This would also mean roughly close to ~3.5x more powerful than GTX 1050 Ti.
As of now, we don't know. Perhaps they'll talk about it next year during the full reveal.
Nope. Hard disagree. There's profit to be made with midgen upgrades.
False. 3500X is a Zen 2 based CPU and does not have SMT enabled (6C/6T). So not all Zen 2 CPUs come with multithreading enabled.
Maybe but I hope it's in the form of slim versions. I want the base console to be so powerful that power upgrades won't be needed halfway into the gen.
"Mid to late gen console will eclipse this performance profile." - this need to stop, it didnt happen last gen, it didnt happen this gen, it wont happen next gen with exception to games that will require raytracing hw, then you'll need a gpu with raytracing acceration to keep up.
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I think it will be enough for all games to be played in 60fps. Remember that consoles wont use all threads for games and will be underclocked as AMD CPU, which generally wins by having way overclocked CPU in comparison to Intel. Also on PC you have more control over games settings, so you can decrease some CPU intensive settings to achieve stable 60fps.
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I hope so. Not impressed with the way it works on ps4 at all. I used to like saving clips of good gaming moments to 'hopefully' watch again years down the line.
Thats impressive sounding, especially since these 2 PC's run everything better than my PS4 does already.
This is good. You want to allocate different jobs running on the CPU to different cores. Think of it like building a house not with one person who have to do all the jobs (electricity, painting, laying bricks, roofing, etc.) but with eight people. Now threads of a CPU – aren't really "physical" like a person – but are for organizing things; with 16 threads think of it like each of those eight people have two piles of resources they take from to build that house. Instead of one, relatively unorganized pile, e.g. for the painter who has his paint, his tools, his drawings in one single bucket and have to rummage around in, he has two buckets, so he can work more efficiently. In reality certain threads aren't tied to certain cores, but just for this image I made it so.
Especially for huge open world games or multiplayer games with lots of people and lots of server and client requests (resulting from many players on one servers) you want more cores and threads. You can have a strong GPU that does all the shading, shadowing, drawing effects extremely well, but you get only so many FPS if the CPU can't deliver on all those requests happening simultaneously; good example is Battlefield with so many things going on independently of your viewport: whether you look into the direction or not, if 20 players bombing and destroying a whole place, this has to happen on "your side" as well. If your CPU can't keep up the calculations and thus delivering the FPS, your GPU power doesn't matter.
For people complaining about $499 price point - the retail price of 8C/16T Zen 2 is $349 on Amazon right now. That's just the CPU.
They already leaked everything!!! 8core 16threads zen2 is huge... what kind of MEGATON they're gonna have for the reveal conference?
I don't think that's true. I could be wrong, but is there a PC with the same RAM and VRAM as the XBOX 360 playing games like Bioshock and Assassin's Creed?
This gen is a bit of an anomaly because Jaguar CPUs werent even really a thing in discrete desktops. Is a game like RDR2 playable on 2013 console equivalent GPUs?
There are performance tests of console like specs in modern games, look it up on yt. Same goes for last gen.
RDR2 is not even out yet on PC.
I'd say you are fine if you keep your settings at reasonable levels. While the console cpu has couple more cores, I'd expect it to be weaker overall. The gpu is in the same ballpark. I would not be surprised if it actually ends up being a bit faster than the 1070. And no RT. Funnily that might actually be an advantage, because RT will also slow consoles down and they can't disable it if the game uses it. You will need to upgrade in a year or two after the consoles are released though.
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I say $499 with some sort of item included, be it a year of ps plus or a year of psnow, or knack 3D who knows
You're not going to get that on the PS5. Gonna be some way underspecced cousin.
Nope. After the success of Pro and XBX, a PS5 Pro is now 100% guaranteed. I'd say maybe with 3nm EUV node once it's widely available.
I dont think people with 8700k in their machines have to worry one bit. It will probably push 100fps+ in next gen games if the gpu can keep up =)
Not of the same generation of gpu as the one in PS4, but an R9 290x (from October 2013) is well above the published minimum required spec for RDR2. An HD 7850 (a close match for the PS4's GPU) likely will not be playable (maybe with minimum everything at the lowest resolution if a 2GB 7850 was being used)
I mean something like 8GB ultra fast memory announcement for PS4! 🤔
I too hope XIV is there at launch (and they do some sort of graphics patch).
Sounds like you are expecting console Zen2 CPUs to be running at like 2.7 GHz or below...
I wouldn't say it's 100%. Those models were just this gens Kinect/EyeToy/Wii Motion Plus, meant to extend the gen longer.
The launch PS5 will already support 8K, even if it's upscaled, so what buzz marketing terms can a PS5 Pro even add in 2023?
I don't think "it's even better 4K than the PS5 which was even better 4K than the PS4 Pro" is going to do wel marketing wise.
And PS4 Pro/1X have 4K as a marketing point and they still sell to 20% of buyers. For PS4, yeah that's maybe 3-5M per year, Xbox less.
I'd personally rather they focus on price and make a big 8K push in 2026+
No way. There will be a new 'Pro', and certainly a 'Slim'.
Ryzen 3000 CPUs clock about the same as current Intel CPUs and are competetive in terms of IPC.
It won't clock as high in a console environment, but even with conservative assumptions you'll need a beefy CPU on PC to approach being about twice as fast (which is needed for doubled framerates):
Assume PS5's Zen 2 will clock at 3 GHz with 1 core/2 threads being entirely reserved for the OS. Then you will still need an 8 core / 16 threads CPU clocked at 5 GHz to be about twice as fast.
Unless of course you're willing to turn down settings below PS5 level.
Would be amazing if it was "upgrade-able" for discrete parts, rather than buying a separate console. E.g. improved SSD drive (improved over the improvements already there)
I think it's a bad assumption to say they can't price it under $500. Even if your cost info is true, it wouldn't be the first time a console maker sells a system at a loss. And I would argue that Sony needs to be under $500 to repeat the success of the PS4.
agreed. Pro/X1X rode the 4K wave. Unless 8K adoption gets a big boost, I don't see it happening. The average consumer probably won't care much for a Pro model that has more RT-cores or something like that. A console that pushes out 4K graphics for your 4K TV is a much more understandable proposition.
Thanks - was thinking about the same thing. How much more powerful would it be than the PS4 and PS4 pro respectively?
