Fucking hallelujah! I'd rather pay $499 (ala $599 AUD) and have it for the entire generation.With this... yep, one version of PS5 for the entire generation is pretty well given now ( of course slim version mid gen but no pro ).
Won't happen.
Yes, the Ryzen 3700xSounds expensive. Isn't the cheapest current gen 8C/16T Ryzen CPU near $300?
The Ryzen 7 3700X is a damn good CPU.I don't know what any of this means but tech peeps seem happy.
As expected. The big question is clock speed. Current Ryzen Mobile processors have a base clock of 2.3GHz, but the core configuration maxes out at 4c/8t, so it's very possible the PS5 and Nextbox processors will land closer to 2GHz.
Yep. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to use reconstruction / checkerboarding in place of native 4k.
Lol, that's optimistic of you. The $599 60GB PS3 was $999 AU in 2006 (equivalent to ~$770 US at the time). The $499 model was $829 AU (and the AUD was stronger then).Fucking hallelujah! I'd rather pay $499 (ala $649 AUD) and have it for the entire generation.
The CPU and GPU have to be one chip for cost savingsSo it'll be equivalent to a Ryzen 7 3700X? If so, that's quite the jump in performance.
No, fps is a design decision. Developers will likely choose to spend those cycles on a more complex world.
That goes into the customizations I mentioned in my following post, especially considering that the PS5 will have hardware-based ray-tracing.
The consoles are based off the desktop chip this time, as the mobile ryzen 3000 chips are still based off zen+ instead of zen 2.
And the leaks so far have suggested 3.2GHz clock, which matches power consumption tests that were done with an underclocked ryzen 3700X.
More like £500That'll convert to somewhere around £450. I ain't paying that.
No, just because core counts are there doesn't mean that it'll be the same as a desktop processor. If they're going to keep that form factor and that price down, it's going to be much lower in clock speed. So the advertising might be great for core counts and whatever else, but it's going to be up to developers to properly multi-thread there games which is still a much larger issue than it should be on PC.So it'll be equivalent to a Ryzen 7 3700X? If so, that's quite the jump in performance.
8K TVs needs to be at specific BIG sizes... not as easy as 4K TVs.They're already touting 8K capabilities of the PS5 and tv manufactures are going to try to sell us new sets somehow.
All games will be 60fps for the first couple years because of cross gen tho.
So it'll be equivalent to a Ryzen 7 3700X? If so, that's quite the jump in performance.
I figured it would be underclocked for thermal reasons, but I was mainly speaking in terms of the closest comparison we can make right now (hence the use of the word "equivalent").No, just because core counts are there doesn't mean that it'll be the same as a desktop processor. If they're going to keep that form factor and that price down, it's going to be much lower in clock speed. So the advertising might be great for core counts and whatever else, but it's going to be up to developers to properly multi-thread there games which is still a much larger issue than it should be on PC.
Offttt I was basing it off the xbone release price... I hope I'm right and you're wrong haha.Lol, that's optimistic of you. The $599 60GB PS3 was $999 AU in 2006 (equivalent to ~$770 US at the time). The $499 model was $829 AU (and the AUD was stronger then).
Closest consumer chip, sure. How Sony/Microsoft (presumably) pulled this off so quickly is impressive as the third gen Ryzen stuff came out really recently. I'd still expect about 60% of the performance of the 3700X (at base clock), realistically speaking.I figured it would be underclocked for thermal reasons, but I was mainly speaking in terms of the closest comparison we can make right now (hence the use of the word "equivalent").
The Jaguar on consoles are 8C/8T, and yeah 8C/16T Zen 2 is pretty close to 7x jump.
A bit slower, due to lower clock speeds than 3700X.So it'll be equivalent to a Ryzen 7 3700X? If so, that's quite the jump in performance.
8K TVs needs to be at specific BIG sizes... not as easy as 4K TVs.
Next gen will focus entirely on 4K.
The PS4 Pro draws ~150w in intense games, the Xbox One X draws ~170 in intense games.
The 3700X desktop chips (probably a very close silicon match to what's shipping, varying mostly on clock speeds) draws about ~90w with PBO disabled, or 110W with it enabled.
The Navi 5700 draws ~170w when highly stressed.
It wouldn't be crazy to expect the CPUs to run around the ~2.8-3GHz mark, imo. It really depends on how of a power hog they're willing to ship the base consoles as, and how much they want to dedicate to the GPU + Storage requirements. I'm expecting an ultrafast Gen4+ SSD to suck up a few watts when stressed, for sure. That's still ~1+ GHz below where the desktop chips run at, but 2GHz seems low for CPU. I'm sort of expecting them to push closer to the 200w range.
What does it mean?"Japanese magazine Famitsu confirmed on its official website that the PlayStation 5 CPU will be an x86-64-AMD Ryzen "Zen2", 8 cores / 16 threads CPU. Many speculated that the console's CPU would sport 8 cores and 16 threads, so it's nice to finally have confirmation."