Well said.
This stuff is wonderful to hear - sounds like an absolute dream from a development ease and creative freedom perspective. Sounds like Cerny's visits to development studios were fruitful indeed. Lead the way!
Apart from the ssd, the masterpiece is from AMD as nothing is custom in the cpu nor the gpu. Quite the contrary, lacks features as VRS.
It's a bit of both.
With the way things are going, I might be able to get any of the consoles at launch. Here's hoping the world goes somewhat back to normal by then.
These console talks are taking my mind off the covid 19. I hope we can get that under control sooner rather than later. 🙁
In the Digital Foundry video, John and Richard sounded perplexed that Cerny didn't mention variable rate shading or machine learning, Richard speculated that perhaps this means the PS5 isn't full RDNA2.
You're the one working overtime here trying to elevate one over the other, not me. Like I said, I'm just noticing a pattern , that is all. You watch Digital Foundry and they hype each, you come here and it's the same familar patterns.
I just played some of it last year, and it feels a little clunky in places; you can feel the age. But some of the interaction design felt very up-to-date. And that first cutscene with the bubble canopy bridge as they drop out of jump into the debris field...it just got my sci-fi nerd juices going.
The introduction to his presentation described exactly how his job works, visiting repeatedly with actual developers to inform his design decisions. That console design no longer works by artistic projection, but by direct data analysis of real-world workloads. Yet you think Mr. Cerny has a worse grasp on what the hardware is capable of than you do.
I might point out that it remains to be seen how much less capable PS5 will be. The primary implication of the entire talk, very explicitly stated, was that much work was put into matching resources to typical demands more closely. The compute gap between XSX and PS5 is indeed meaningful, but there are reasons to believe final performance may not be quite as distinct as appears on first glance.
Pretty much console wars related. How anyone can be disappointed with a 10.3TF vs 12.1TF console is beyond me. I mean if it was 10TF vs 15TF maybe I would understand.
Aren't those all parts of the RDNA2 spec? I don't think sony needs to say all that stuff if they come standard with RDNA2.
Didn't you know? If Sony doesn't specify every single feature then it means they don't have it!! /s
The thing is that Sony is already heavily invested in this type of dynamic LOD because of VR.
You can throw all the API layers you want. You can't obviate hardware restrictions.
It's not all that important. Remember these are lossless compression schemes. There are "no" guarantees you'll get a 2x average size reduction, let alone anything more.
Strictly speaking it would be the smallest difference of any 3d console gen, so 25 years? But who's counting.
indeed, too many focus on a couple of TFs and throw their eggs out the basket in what will overall be a very difficult metric to tell differences in games unless under a microscope again. the game changers here are the SSDs and other architectural progresses that will give outlets like DF new areas to explore.
I'm not sure you really understand how much work has to go into calculating accurate phase relationship between speakers especially when moving from an headset HRTF to TV to varying surround setups, FFT, room modes... etc as you wouldn't be saying this.
A chip like this for 3d audio has been a long time coming... also there have been example of this in practice, I believe CES they had a demo room, branded "360 Reality Audio"... so it's not like Sony have no experience here. I believe this is in part fruits of that labour.
If you don't quite understand the audio mumbo jumbo I can understand this sentiment... but like the SSD it is a gamechanger also... absolutely
Considering atmos is a meta object based surround format, and this 3D audio tech will be an advancement on that process with HRTF and Fast Fourier Transform... current Atmos soundbars that even sony make use some of the processes that Sony are looking to perfect. difference here is Sony are looking to bring the HRTF to the living room listening experience which is incredibly difficult when dealing with phase, room modes.
Possibly, depends on if sony implement the use of Dolby's AC-4 format natively. I expect they'll be supporting the current standard Fraunhofer IIS MPEG-H codec for object based surround formats.
HRTF doesn't need to be tailor made... HRTF is used to create the experiences you get currently for many binaural recordings. Your ears aren't individually measured there... but what Cerny was talking about is the most immersive way to experience HRTF is accurate measurement of recordings of your ears. This is just like getting custom made moulds made for in-ears for monitoring as a sound engineer... Also this stuff has been around for a long time, but this an advancement with a chip like this. I can assure you something like this is important.
I'm not even sure if AMD would allow Sony to say it was RDNA2 if it was not.
Sir, this is a PS5 thread.
Nope. I doubt most devs will take the time to optimize to it, and if they do, it won't be in meaningful ways like first parties will.
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I mean i hope so, this presentation was meant to show that to developers. It doesn't seem abstract to me, but seeing is believing. Many will use UE4 and that'll get optimized for next gen and the new bandwith, but i don't know how specialized to the platforms they will make it. Many devs in japan are slow on the adoption of these new shiny things.
Men you're making a lot of assumptions here. Silly ones at that.
