Did you read the tweet? Or read the name of the event? Neither claimed it was a console reveal.
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PlayStation 5 System Architecture Deep Dive |OT| Secret Agent Cerny
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because this is a gdc speech meant for gamedevs primarily.
Yeah, they did one of these in 2013, months AFTER the official PS4 reveal.
Unlikely. MS putting money into beefing up some numbers, Sony put their money where their mouth is and invested it on stuff that actually matters and has been neglected by building a ton of custom stuff. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the PS5 costs more for Sony to make than MS does with the Xbox.
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What kind of Cycles, Sony and Nintendo have been dominating the console space for decades.
He's an absolute fucking troll that will revise stuff to fit his agenda.
Some of the posters on this site are pathetic man i swear.
Like rabbid dogs
They did not. Stop repeating this. It isn't remotely accurate. Go watch the meeting from 2013. They showed multiple games. They showed the controller. It was not even close to as technical as this presentation was. It's not similar. It also happened a month earlier than we're at in this timeline.
At first i understood a lot of the information, then he kept going and i lost it a little, the HRTF stuff? we're getting hormone replacement rtreatment with the console? so were mutants now? /s not a clue
but i did enjoy it because of the troll in me knowing how people expected a console reveal and all the games, when 'a deep dive into the consoles architecture' is a proper old school conference for developers.
Overall the deep dive delivered for the 'boring' stuff for those who wanted it, be safe in the knowledge a big reveal of the console and some demo's will come, this just wasn't it.
but still someone explain it like i'm five what the hell the HRTF was about and the 3D audio? for a second i though they were talking about their own sound bar like when they did a TV, i realised how dump that was
but i did enjoy it because of the troll in me knowing how people expected a console reveal and all the games, when 'a deep dive into the consoles architecture' is a proper old school conference for developers.
Overall the deep dive delivered for the 'boring' stuff for those who wanted it, be safe in the knowledge a big reveal of the console and some demo's will come, this just wasn't it.
but still someone explain it like i'm five what the hell the HRTF was about and the 3D audio? for a second i though they were talking about their own sound bar like when they did a TV, i realised how dump that was
... Please tell me you weren't expecting a price today.
Isnt the XBX using one CPU core for SSD compression, while PS5 has a custom chip for that. That should factor in somehow.
Do you have a quote on that because even the ps4 was called a 1tb machine and of course had the same reservations. Whereas they mention 825 here specifically. It makes sense of course but is weird that they'd say it like that.
So Github was right as I first predicted. This explains the "lol flops" comment from jschreier.
I wonder if MS was ready to go with 56CUs and decided 52 was enough when they found out PS5 was around 10 TF.
Still, I guess 5GBps speed + 10.3 is roughly equivalent to 2.4 GBps SSD + 12.1 TF
I expect PS5 to punch at the equivalent of around 11 TF peak, because more frequency is better than more CUs, all other things being equal. This explains the whole "they're the same" comment from devs I reckon.
But yeah XsX will have the edge because I doubt the PS5 can run at 10.3 TF for extended periods of time.
I wonder if MS was ready to go with 56CUs and decided 52 was enough when they found out PS5 was around 10 TF.
Still, I guess 5GBps speed + 10.3 is roughly equivalent to 2.4 GBps SSD + 12.1 TF
I expect PS5 to punch at the equivalent of around 11 TF peak, because more frequency is better than more CUs, all other things being equal. This explains the whole "they're the same" comment from devs I reckon.
But yeah XsX will have the edge because I doubt the PS5 can run at 10.3 TF for extended periods of time.
Confusing is wrong word to use but PS4 hype was through the roof. Here it doesn't seem to be the case and using exact same balanced term to describe PS5 used by Xbox one team
Does all this audio talk mean PS5 will play audio CDs? I'm one of the weird guys that would really want that.
Better specs
Full backward compatibility
Clear messaging
Better features so far with quick/resume
And if Sony is not taking a loss and Microsoft does even the price difference will not be big.
You didn't really get my point. It's neat tech, sure. But when you've got people desperate for any info, this is NOT what you want to publicly lead with. Which is why I called it a Marketing disaster.
Wow! people are already calling the winner after this deep dive.
The release of next gen is going to be fun.
The release of next gen is going to be fun.
Nobody uses it (on PS4) because there's no BC to use it on...Apart from when they said no one uses it...
Sony Exec Comments On Backwards Compatibility
It's a much-requested, but little-used feature, Sony exec Jim Ryan says.www.gamespot.com
100%. They asked for a mainstream audience. They're gonna get a cold reaction in turn.
Why would you think about jumping ship before they showed any games?
If their audience is developers, why the 101 talk about SSDs and audio?
There sure alot of concern trolls in this thread. Look, this is a GDC video, not a freakin E3 video. If you want an E3 like presentation, then wait until Sony announces the system and pricing in the next few weeks from now.
Just focus on the specs and stop complaining about how boring it was (It's a Console spec video conference that was limited due to the Corona Virus).
Just focus on the specs and stop complaining about how boring it was (It's a Console spec video conference that was limited due to the Corona Virus).
I enjoyed the rundown on system design, it was layman enough to sort of get it here and there which was cool. Found it quite interesting.
I wanted to see the console though and maybe a little demo of something.
SSD speed is crazy good.
The varied frequency thing sounds like padding the numbers that apparently don't matter, really went out their way with those two which was a little weird.
People saying this is going to run really hot so might be a rather beefy design. I laughed when he was talking about God of War etc. and fan noise, they knew all along. Make quieter consoles next time!
I wanted to see the console though and maybe a little demo of something.
SSD speed is crazy good.
The varied frequency thing sounds like padding the numbers that apparently don't matter, really went out their way with those two which was a little weird.
People saying this is going to run really hot so might be a rather beefy design. I laughed when he was talking about God of War etc. and fan noise, they knew all along. Make quieter consoles next time!
That's a licensing issue more than a technical I think.
I guess I heard wrong but I thought this was going to the PS5 reveal where they show the box and everything.
Have you been outside..the general public are as dumb as they come.
It is how the not-Era PSfan will take it. It feels for them like the 'TV! TV!' vibe in 2013. I knew back then there was way more to the Xbox One, but it doesnt matter, because the vibe spreads around fast.
So people feel let down by Sony's strategy rather than this presentation. The hype build up is handled in the wrong way if you wanna keep it growing.
So let me see if i got this right:
10.2Tflops
Not fully BC with the PS4
So much talk about Ray Tracing but half of the time was spent on the SSD?
I always had PS consoles and this is the first time i'm actually looking at an Xbox in my life. I get what they tried to do here but this is NOT the first live stream you do for a new Playstation console. I know "but they always said this is what they were going to show and the first PS4 conference had this too" but they should know their audience and the PS4 conference had a lot more than this technical part.
This will be a shitshow until the games start to get revealed.
I honestly don't get what their marketing team is thinking?
He literally ended this video saying "let the fun begin" before cutting to a black screen.
The cardbox audience, the CGI background...all of this except for Cerny himself scream "cheap" in every way, shape or form.
Cerny is a genius, no doubt about it. I loved what he did there...he's enthusiastic, etc...Sony was the ones dropping the ball here. This tech stuff is okay to happen on a youtube live stream if you do it like in 2013. It's like they regressed.
The good part? This will probably be €400 which would explain why Sony expects people to move fast to this next generation hardware.
10.2Tflops
Not fully BC with the PS4
So much talk about Ray Tracing but half of the time was spent on the SSD?
I always had PS consoles and this is the first time i'm actually looking at an Xbox in my life. I get what they tried to do here but this is NOT the first live stream you do for a new Playstation console. I know "but they always said this is what they were going to show and the first PS4 conference had this too" but they should know their audience and the PS4 conference had a lot more than this technical part.
This will be a shitshow until the games start to get revealed.
I honestly don't get what their marketing team is thinking?
He literally ended this video saying "let the fun begin" before cutting to a black screen.
The cardbox audience, the CGI background...all of this except for Cerny himself scream "cheap" in every way, shape or form.
Cerny is a genius, no doubt about it. I loved what he did there...he's enthusiastic, etc...Sony was the ones dropping the ball here. This tech stuff is okay to happen on a youtube live stream if you do it like in 2013. It's like they regressed.
The good part? This will probably be €400 which would explain why Sony expects people to move fast to this next generation hardware.
Cerny is already admitting on the Eurogamer article that they won't reach these CPU and GPU speeds always as they will reach power limit. Lol
Why are you so upset?
This was exactly what I was expecting from a conference called "System architecture deep dive" by the "System architect".
This was exactly what I was expecting from a conference called "System architecture deep dive" by the "System architect".
I'm feeling pretty underwhelmed by the RAM size/speed, GPU computational power, and HDD size. I think I'm going to have to take a long look this gen on whether I really need those Sony exclusives or whether I can be happy without a Playstation system for the first time.
Promoted deep dive, got deep sea dive deep and people are moaning..... It not "worst" case its in the middle. Less power gap between PS5 and XBsx than ps4 and xbo. A shit load of really impressive tech under the hood and still people moan. Can't fucking win with console warriors.
What was Sony thinking? About a million people were watching the live stream(YT/twitch) expected juicy PS5 info and games, not some nerdy tech talk about acronyms.
Sony marketing this new gen has been a disaster. This should not have been the first public PS5 reveal. It could have been a blend of tech talk streamlined to a more "chewable" mainstream format with some game demos and UI/social info like the PS4 reveal.
Sony marketing this new gen has been a disaster. This should not have been the first public PS5 reveal. It could have been a blend of tech talk streamlined to a more "chewable" mainstream format with some game demos and UI/social info like the PS4 reveal.
This is incredibly pedantic. Yes, they didn't specifically say "this is a PS5 reveal," but as the Digital Foundry video shows a "deep dive into a system's architecture," can mean a lot more than a guy giving an hour-long powerpoint presentation made specifically for developers.
But, sure, I'm just an idiot who can't read or something. Frankly if you can seriously write that and seriously think that everyone else is an idiot beside you then I don't know what to say.
(also JSchreier does not have the same reach as Sony's official Playstation Twitter account and Youtube channel).
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