This basically tells me that ps3 BC is going to be tricky as fuck because I was betting on ps now for ps3 BC, but the way you put it makes it sound like it's a bad option, just as bad as putting ps3 harware into ps5's and just as bad as emulating which would be an extreme undertaking.Regarding PS3 BC on the PS5 platform I've always believed they will have it in there, if only because of PS Now. Having to continue to build, install and maintain Cell chips (along with any other relevant components) to run PS3 games on PS Now is basically burning money as that platform continues to grow. It makes far more economical sense to take the time and spend the money to develop PS3 BC so they'll only have to worry about installing PS5 hardware in Azure datacenters. This will save them countless tens of millions of dollars compared to having to run PS3 hardware alongside PS5 hardware in those locations around the world. Once the emulator is developed to run in datacenters just plop it on the consoles so they can play those games locally and you're set.
Especially not when they said that they're not looking to fill out any checklist, but rather pump out games every 3 months. It'll more typical games as a service stuff according to Phil for GamepassPrediction in the gaming industry are pretty tough to call. But at this point Sony are almost like the Patriots. They are gonna be in the mix, they are gonna be good, they probably will dominate again.
And I'm not sold on Ms throwing a bunch of money at acquisitions. Fans are just assuming next gen MS is going to turn into Nintendo or Sony with high quality WWS hits after another.
Doesn't work like that...
XBox is going for the power narrative again. No way it's cheaper than the ps5 lolEverybody seems to think that Ps5 will be $500. So you think Xbox Two will be $400 or Ps5?
As long as they aren't cranking out exclusive hits left and right like Sony or Nintendo people won't change their opinions.
XBox is going for the power narrative again. No way it's cheaper than the ps5 lol
The acquisitions are the first step, but it will still take quite a bit of guidance and maturation to get those studios to a point where they are consistently putting out high quality content, if ever. It can be a very long process.Isn't that what they are trying to change by acquiring/creating all these studios ?
Assuming Sony is on point at launch, there isn't really anything MS can do to stop what will happen market wise. So, I think MS should just focus on what they can control and do their best to maximize their effectiveness -- get messaging right, release good games, tout services, etc... As long as MS can improve their marketshare relative to where it was this gen, it is fine. They shouldn't be concerned with rivaling Sony in marketshare.The big problem for MS going into the next gen is that the consoles look to be launching around the same time. With the 360 launching earlier it allowed them to get a bit of market share in the next gen before sony released. Launching together they have to convince gamers to leave the Sony ecosystem which is a tough sell.
I think they are doing all the right things at the moment Game Pass, Play Anywhere, Cross Save etc. Launch titles will be really important but its complete guess work to say whether any of the potential games will have the draw that Xbox needs.
With Stadia launching, Xcloud launching and PCs getting cheaper to build, I see PS5 as the last major console version i.e. by the time PS6 launches, it will be a niche market as everyone would have moved on to streaming games.
XBox is going for the power narrative again. No way it's cheaper than the ps5 lol
Why would you think this? The two SKU launch is something everyone else has backed away from because it makes no senseMicrosoft will most likely launch 2 version of Scarlett:
399 Dollar-version, probably somewhat weaker than PS5
699 Dollar-version, basically "what if the Xbox One X had launched same say with original Xbox One".
That way they'll have a massmarket compatible console, but also get to claim 'most powerful system', des'ite it being the less sales-relevant model.
Why would you think this? The two SKU launch is something everyone else has backed away from because it makes no sense
Lockhart/anaconda is dead, only scarlett now. One console, likely very similar spec to ps5.Microsoft will most likely launch 2 version of Scarlett:
399 Dollar-version, probably somewhat weaker than PS5
699 Dollar-version, basically "what if the Xbox One X had launched same say with original Xbox One".
That way they'll have a massmarket compatible console, but also get to claim 'most powerful system', des'ite it being the less sales-relevant model.
lockhart plan apparently was canned back in late 2018 according to zhuge and matt.Microsoft will most likely launch 2 version of Scarlett:
399 Dollar-version, probably somewhat weaker than PS5
699 Dollar-version, basically "what if the Xbox One X had launched same say with original Xbox One".
That way they'll have a massmarket compatible console, but also get to claim 'most powerful system', des'ite it being the less sales-relevant model.
There's a huge difference between paying £10 a month subscribing to tens of millions of songs or tens of thousands of hours of TV, and paying £50 to be able to stream a single game.This is pretty inevitable no matter how much gamers spin it. Consoles will be niche in the future. 14 years is a long time in tech and Streaming would have most likely taken off at that point.
Uhh correct me if I'm wrong but they through the cheaper version out the window cus it was holding back next genMicrosoft will most likely launch 2 version of Scarlett:
399 Dollar-version, probably somewhat weaker than PS5
699 Dollar-version, basically "what if the Xbox One X had launched same say with original Xbox One".
That way they'll have a massmarket compatible console, but also get to claim 'most powerful system', des'ite it being the less sales-relevant model.
In interviews they said they said this because they don't know about the ps5. But in interviews they also said that they're indeed trying to make the strongest console.Well it was only "Strongest Console we ever made" at E3. So im not sure about that.
Why "endure". What's it matter anyway."Oh shit here we go again" GTA gif. Have to endure another 18-20 months of such hot takes from the press/media, sigh!
In interviews they said they said this because they don't know about the ps5. But in interviews they also said that they're indeed trying to make the strongest console.
That's what I think too. I'm saving up for if and when the Ps5 is half a grand but I'm terms of launch, I really don't think going above $400 is a good idea but $500 seems to be what everyone is saying.I think one of them will be $400, possibly both. I don't know which. Launching at over $400 has always been a recipe for failure, especially if the competition comes in at that magical $399.99 price point (Ex. Xbox One vs PS4, Xbox 360 vs PS3). Maybe there will be a bundle with VR for $500-$600 if Sony wants to push those units into homes.
The rumors surrounding Ps5 also makes it sound like a conversation about a powerhouse as well as talk of it being $500XBox is going for the power narrative again. No way it's cheaper than the ps5 lol
Isn't that what they are trying to change by acquiring/creating all these studios ?
Yeah which doesn't seem to fit in with what Sony is doing with Storytelling AAA titles or what Nintendo does with gameplay mechanics. MS just seem to be looking for the next blockbuster hit in whatever shape or form, (which is why they spent a billion f'n dollar for Minecraft). I'm not expecting much out of their studios besides a hopefully amazing new Halo game and Forza. Maybe the next Fable will be awesome too, either one of those will push me to get a Xbox next gen since I skipped them this one.Especially not when they said that they're not looking to fill out any checklist, but rather pump out games every 3 months. It'll more typical games as a service stuff according to Phil for Gamepass
I'm thinking it's $499 and Sony justifies it through good marketing. Will just get the hardcore at first but should be able to price drop after 2 holiday seasons. This is selling alongside PS4 remember. If people are turned off by the price they have the cheaper option, by having a nice gap between the two platforms it's a safe bet to offset costs I believe. I mean even launching at $500 is likely not profitable for Sony.
I guess. Its just one generation too late considering that the same arguments about a lack of exclusives were around back in 2011 and 2012.Isn't that what they are trying to change by acquiring/creating all these studios ?
Yes. And its not like Sony is going to mess up their next gen launch.The big problem for MS going into the next gen is that the consoles look to be launching around the same time. With the 360 launching earlier it allowed them to get a bit of market share in the next gen before sony released. Launching together they have to convince gamers to leave the Sony ecosystem which is a tough sell.
I really doubt that many people in Europe even know about these features on Xbox, since the interest in the platform just isn't there.I think they are doing all the right things at the moment Game Pass, Play Anywhere, Cross Save etc. Launch titles will be really important but its complete guess work to say whether any of the potential games will have the draw that Xbox needs.
Because that's what MS's E3 presentation this year made it sound like. And I don't see the downside.
There last update on that rumor is they are no longer doing this and we are getting a single weaker console now.Microsoft will most likely launch 2 version of Scarlett:
399 Dollar-version, probably somewhat weaker than PS5
699 Dollar-version, basically "what if the Xbox One X had launched same say with original Xbox One".
That way they'll have a massmarket compatible console, but also get to claim 'most powerful system', des'ite it being the less sales-relevant model.
There last update on that rumor is they are no longer doing this and we are getting a single weaker console now.
Really? Well, that's bad then. MS should realize how important it is for their console to be the most powerful, because Sony will, for now, have the upperhand software-wise.
XboxOne also showed that their big franchises like Halo and Gears have lost much of their pull. They still sell well, but they are a far cry from the juggernauts they once were.
I really doubt that many people in Europe even know about these features on Xbox, since the interest in the platform just isn't there.
At the moment I don't think that many people are even considering an Xbox for next gen here.
I don't get what's lol about it being cheaper.XBox is going for the power narrative again. No way it's cheaper than the ps5 lol
I would like to believe you, but do you have anything that would support that?
Only speculation. But I believe (based on statements they've made within the past year) that they understand what made them so successful this gen and what decisions made them less successful in the past, and I expect them to capitalize on those lessons learned going forward.I would like to believe you, but do you have anything that would support that?
I've honestly been thinking this way too, but the vast majority of people here and news articles seem to think Sony will push for $500. I think even on this forum there was a polled thread and $500 was winning.Only speculation. But I believe (based on statements they've made within the past year) that they understand what made them so successful this gen and what decisions made them less successful in the past, and I expect them to capitalize on those lessons learned going forward.
I hear you but if there's one thing this forum is consistently great at, it's being wrong as fuck.I've honestly been thinking this way too, but the vast majority of people here and news articles seem to think Sony will push for $500. I think even on this forum there was a polled thread and $500 was winning.
Let's hope we're right.