Why does everyone keep bringing in the handhelds when I was referring to a specific home console claim. You're doing this to yourselves at this point.That's true. I guess if we add PSP and PS Vita, PlayStation is well over 500m.
Why does everyone keep bringing in the handhelds when I was referring to a specific home console claim. You're doing this to yourselves at this point.That's true. I guess if we add PSP and PS Vita, PlayStation is well over 500m.
It is impressive but Sony had already a know-how in the consumer electronics market. They were starting to cooperate with Nintendo too and that gave Sony some leverage. They had other ventures to cover potential losses. The leap wasn't as big as other businesses.
Yes. That is true.I mean if we did all know the numbers we could argue that meeting the numbers for All Nintendo consoles combined would be "technically" unreachable, and that would be "technically" true, yes?
Why are you circling around yourself? Literally who are you talking to. All that's happened here is that you claimed PS1+PS2 outsold all Nintendo home consoles and I told you it didn't.Yes. That is true.
Sony's award is for "Home console".
We know this for facts ourselves correct?
right on!
The Vita brought their average down :( Everything else outside of it has sold a minimum of 80m, and it has like... 16m?Remember when ps3 sales were crap and they included psp sales to seem bigger. What happened to playstation family when they use to use to include handhelds...
That's pretty insane.Zhuge seemed to be pretty confident the PS2 was closer to 160m than 155m, so it's possible these Vgchartz numbers (which appear to be updated to reflect official numbers) are actually slightly underestimated.
You quoted me mf!Why are you circling around yourself? Literally who are you talking to.
I dunno, how long has it been since the Kojima twitter follower one?Browsing this thread, I can't remember the last time I saw the Guinness World Records taken so seriously.
You made an incorrect claim and he corrected you. Your response to being wrong about console sales is really weird.You quoted me mf!
Im talking to you! I guess this is the part in the conversation where you concede. Have a good day! Lol
Well...not really no.So this means each ps home console sells on average around 113 million units
That's how averages work...Well...not really no.
In fact literally only one of them has done above that.
You could say them prefacing the word Nintendo on all of their consoles would make it the Nintendo Brand, so probably. Not that it exactly matters.Are they comparing it to all MS and Nintendo consoles or would each Nintendo console be a different "brand" aside from I guess the NES+SNES and Wii+Wii U? And I guess the Gameboy and DS lines, although those aren't consoles
Are they comparing it to all MS and Nintendo consoles or would each Nintendo console be a different "brand" aside from I guess the NES+SNES and Wii+Wii U? And I guess the Gameboy and DS lines, although those aren't consoles
I know that but if you wanna give an avarage figure thats how u do.Well...not really no.
In fact literally only one of them has done above that.
You legitimately can't say that when the sample size is 4 and one console didn't even hit 100 mil.I know that but if you wanna give an avarage figure thats how u do.
Did sony invite ken kutaragi for this event ? If so , thats amaizng to invite him and see his baby getting achievement.
You quoted me mf!
Im talking to you! I guess this is the part in the conversation where you concede. Have a good day! Lol
It's not the brands, it's specifically home consoles. The PSP is a 'PlayStation' too, but they didn't count that number in the total. My post on the first page has the console + handheld totals, where Nintendo obviously leads if you count everything (they've basically always been successful in one of the two segments, and they've been around the longest by two generations).It's a great achievement for sure, but it helps that Xbox aside (a younger brand with no handhelds either, though I know this record isn't counting handhelds either) no other console manufacturer worth a damn stuck around with the same branding. Nintendo has had everything: the Game Boy, the DS, the Wii, the Switch, the GameCube. Different brands and as such they aren't combined. In that sense it only really competes with Xbox which had one less generation, though to be fair it managed to beat Xbox quite comfortably in nearly every one of them so far (only last-gen was close). Still, that's a fucking insane average of over 100 million console units sold on average, every generation. The only non-handheld consoles that can compete with that are the Wii (higher than PS3 but lower than PS1, 2 and 4) and X360 (around PS3's level and, again, below PS1, 2 and 4). Really can't be disputed, but it's such a weird way of paging this record considering Nintendo, SEGA, etc. didn't have the same linear naming and branding convention for their consoles (if they did, Nintendo would be close to those numbers on handhelds alone).
Nah, Nintendo has sold about ~125m less consoles. Their portables are typically way more successful.If Nintendo named their consoles Nintendo 1, Nintendo 2, Nintendo 3, Nintendo 4 then we'd be having a different conversation, right?
You legitimately can't say that when the sample size is 4 and one console didn't even hit 100 mil.
Thats true, but it didnt take them 25 years to be in a dominant position however. That was achieved in only some years. They've stayed relevant for about 25 years in the gaming industry :) Same thing with Facebook as well (only taking them some years to become dominant in their field). Also dont think that the partnership with Nintendo really gave too much leverage, if you mean public exposure leading to people buying or knowing about the PSX? I think Sony's own marketing campaign and the games it had would have been able to do that alone even if they didnt briefly partnered with Nintendo.To be fair, 25 years are a lot in the tech industry, lol
Facebook became one of the biggest firms in the world in the span of 15 years from literally nothing.
I guess he just mean an average. That would put the PS2 at 113 million for example, even if it sold 150+ million.You legitimately can't say that when the sample size is 4 and one console didn't even hit 100 mil.
It's a great achievement for sure, but it helps that Xbox aside (a younger brand with no handhelds either, though I know this record isn't counting handhelds either) no other console manufacturer worth a damn stuck around with the same branding. Nintendo has had everything: the Game Boy, the DS, the Wii, the Switch, the GameCube. Different brands and as such they aren't combined. In that sense it only really competes with Xbox which had one less generation, though to be fair it managed to beat Xbox quite comfortably in nearly every one of them so far (only last-gen was close). Still, that's a fucking insane average of over 100 million console units sold on average, every generation. The only non-handheld consoles that can compete with that are the Wii (higher than PS3 but lower than PS1, 2 and 4) and X360 (around PS3's level and, again, below PS1, 2 and 4). Really can't be disputed, but it's such a weird way of paging this record considering Nintendo, SEGA, etc. didn't have the same linear naming and branding convention for their consoles (if they did, Nintendo would be close to those numbers on handhelds alone).
No has to be another source to verify their claimCouldn't they have just got the number from Sony? Why use chartz?
😆 that was funny. How do they get away with all this luck?
What do you mean stuck around with the same branding? Consistent branding or naming conventions don't guarantee success, see Xbox, Wii U from Wii etc.
Pretty sure Nintendo's consoles is in it's 7th generation.Nintendo is at 752m total (323m console (counting Switch as one) + 429m handheld) across 6 generations.
Sony is at 549m total (452m console + 97m handheld) across 4 generations.
Xbox is at 156m across 3 generations.
Sega is at 58m (47m console + 11m handheld) across 4 generations (but without numbers for some systems - so potentially add like ~12m to this).
... Using VGChartz so as to be consistent lol.
Wow. PS1 was something really incredible, I can understand not owning a PS4 if you are a PC or Xbox gamer and aren't interested in Sony's first parties, but it almost takes work to avoid Sony's hardware and play video games for 25+ years.That many consoles, and I never owned a playstation though I'm well into my 30s...
No, Sony's home consoles still sold more.If Nintendo named their consoles Nintendo 1, Nintendo 2, Nintendo 3, Nintendo 4 then we'd be having a different conversation, right?
No, if they included handheld consoles we would. That would add a 100 odd million to PlayStations total, but like double Nintendos, put them over 700m.If Nintendo named their consoles Nintendo 1, Nintendo 2, Nintendo 3, Nintendo 4 then we'd be having a different conversation, right?
I didn't think we were squabbling over a few million when I say ps1 & ps2 sold more than every Nintendo console, prior to switch, combined. We all know this already. It's specified as "home console". We don't need vgcharts numbers for this. I'm making light of the situation cause it's not a big deal.You made an incorrect claim and he corrected you. Your response to being wrong about console sales is really weird.
Cause I said "mf"? Cmon.. 😆
No. Playstation home consoles have outsold Nintendo home consoles.If Nintendo named their consoles Nintendo 1, Nintendo 2, Nintendo 3, Nintendo 4 then we'd be having a different conversation, right?
You legitimately can't say that when the sample size is 4 and one console didn't even hit 100 mil.
Home console and no.sony sold more than all nintendo home consoles combinedIf Nintendo named their consoles Nintendo 1, Nintendo 2, Nintendo 3, Nintendo 4 then we'd be having a different conversation, right?
Never said it has anything to do with success, but the Wii and the NES are not the same brand. The Mega Drive and the Dreamcast aren't the same brand. PlayStation is basically the only home console that had 4 consecutive consoles with that naming convention, except maybe some old stuff like the Atari consoles. PS1-4 are 4 of the highest selling consoles ever so they were gonna have this record one way or another anyway, but it seems like a weird way to phrase the record. The record should have just been Sony, not PlayStation - it would still have counted (they beat Nintendo's, Microsoft's, SEGA's, Atari's, etc. home consoles in total units sold), but at least the other companies would have been counted correctly. Why limit the record to one name in the home console space when most other big players don't follow the same naming at all? It's a bit like saying that the dozens of versions of iPhone sold more than the Nokia N-Gage as opposed to comparing it to all Nokia phones.