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TheNexus

Brand Marketing Specialist
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Oct 25, 2017
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For those wondering, PSVR 1.0 titles will work on 2.0

Add to library = profit.
 

Deleted member 91227

Feb 4, 2021
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Cool, Amalur has been a game I've wanted to check out for ages and just never got around to/wasn't sure enough I'd enjoy it to spend money on it.
 

PLASTICA-MAN

Member
Oct 26, 2017
23,579
Why would they not be compatible? That would be a huge upset in users and cause mistrust. For example, Quest 1 games work with Quest 2. There is no reason PSVR games can't work with PSVR2 and actually have enhancements for those games.

Because of the new controls and controller, the new ways of tracking that probably don't even need a camera, no wonder the PSVR on PS5 needs a special adapater for to work on PS5. I think the past games will need a lot of tweaking to work on PSVR2 and will mostly have their own native evrsions on PS5, that is if devs want to have the courtesy to care ofr the fans of those games.

The Persistence (PS4) is playable in both VR and Flat. So everyone can play this.
The Persistence Enhanced (PS4/PS5) is only playable in flat. Enhanced is a free upgrade for those who own the regular version.

That would be great if this would happen, but knowing it's a PS Plsu version, I don't think this would allow a free upgrade for Enhanced version on PS5 like what they did for Greedfall and FF7R. Otherwise they would have mentioend this would be free PS5 version too for the game. But hey, let's hope this gets past that system and this happeend automaticlaly without oOny needing to lick the games. ^^.
 

TalonJH

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,866
Louisville, KY
So, what I took from the State of Play is that First Class Trouble is like a 3D Among Us. That could be cool. A good game to place on PS+ because I otherwise probably would not buy it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,494
I'll redeem Amalur and the VR titles. Amalur is as baisc as it can get, but I could give it another try on PS5. I like the idea of building a small VR library in case I ever get a PSVR.

Not even gonna redeem the other two games, though.
 

FallenGrace

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,035
Are they specifically blocking it? I got the non-vr version for free because I bought the vr version.

Again, there is NO VR only version...

You'll be able to play it.

Interesting, I was under the impression it had a completely different SKU released?

Looking on my PS5 there is an enhanced Eddition which lists no VR and a normal version which does. They really need to label these clearer in what is what, and what you get.
 

Shryke

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,520
Damn what terrible selection. None of that interest me. PS VR.... I don't even VR on the PS.
 

Ariakon44

Prophet of Truth
Member
Nov 17, 2020
10,175
Interesting, I was under the impression it had a completely different SKU released?

Looking on my PS5 there is an enhanced Eddition which lists no VR and a normal version which does. They really need to label these clearer in what is what, and what you get.

The enhanced edition is free for owners of the standard version, at least it was, so you should be getting both of them
 

Pankratous

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,245
I might revisit the VR games when PSVR2 comes out assuming it's backwards compatible, but for now this month does nothing for me.
 
Oct 7, 2020
1,003
Italy
Curious to see if we can upgrade Persistance to the PS5 enhance edition. Even if it isn't possible, the game will still be playable without an headset since it got a free update for it.
 

Ryuhza

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
11,431
San Diego County
For those wondering, PSVR 1.0 titles will work on 2.0

Add to library = profit.

For real? I figured the differences in tracking techniques and controller layouts would present issues that would have to be addressed on a case-by-case basis.

I mean, you're going from these

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to these
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subtracting 2-3 face buttons from each controller, depending on if you count the sticks.
 

jroc74

Member
Oct 27, 2017
28,992
For those wondering, PSVR 1.0 titles will work on 2.0

Add to library = profit.
Well, this is certainly interesting.

Makes a PSVR purchase a day -0, lol.

For real? I figured the differences in tracking techniques and controller layouts would present issues that would have to be addressed on a case-by-case basis.

I mean, you're going from these

ps-move-2.png

to these
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subtracting 2-3 face buttons from each controller, depending on if you count the sticks.
Maybe its like the PS5 and you can only play PSVR1 games with a DS4 or Move controllers?
 

Ryuhza

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
11,431
San Diego County
Well, this is certainly interesting.

Maybe its like the PS5 and you can only play PSVR1 games with a DS4 or Move controllers?

You can play PS4 games with a DualSense on PS5, you just can't play PS5 games with a DualShock 4 (for no good reason tbh).

But even if they were to require the older controllers, doesn't the headset itself no longer use a camera? Would they somehow split the headset and controller tracking techniques?
 
Nov 2, 2017
6,804
Shibuya
What? So instead of offering the main enahcned game that has PS5 supprot with rya tracing, they offer su the VR only version that the majority on PS4 and PS5 can't play?If they gonna do this each time by segregating versions to just offer the VR versions like how they cut games that are both PS4 and PS5 to offer just the PS5 version, this won't be interesting tbh.
I would rather have 4 PS4 + PS5 games isnetad of having 6 games with 3 that I can't play and the majority can't either.
This is actually incorrect- the PS5 version doesn't support VR because PS5, but the version we're getting (PS4) has support for both modes of play. As far as I know there is not a separate PS4 non-VR version.
 

Primal Sage

Virtually Real
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Nov 27, 2017
9,707
Is Walking Dead any better on ps5? Are any vr games really?

Some VR games can run higher internal resolution and/or slightly improved draw distance, but I only know of Firewall Zero Hour and Blood & Truth (that one also goes from 60fps reprojected on 120fps, to native 90fps) doing this.


Add Dreams and No Man's Sky to the list. Especially Dreams. Some creators are making games that are basically PS5 games.
 

Primal Sage

Virtually Real
Member
Nov 27, 2017
9,707
Regarding different tracking techniques being an obstacle for BC, note that the Quest and Quest 2 both use inside out tracking like the PSVR2 is expected to and games made for PCVR with external sensors doing the tracking work perfectly fine when connecting to a PC.

So it's very feasible that the tracking difference won't be an issue. The big unknown is the move controllers vs the orbs.
 

Iwao

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,781
For those wondering, PSVR 1.0 titles will work on 2.0

Add to library = profit.
That was my thinking behind why PS5 would definitely play PS4 title and that was under the impression that it wouldn't be difficult. PSVR 2.0 uses a completely different tracking on the headset and controllers though, and the PSVR 1.0 audience is way smaller for it to be as big a priority.

I'd love it if this was the case though.
 

PLASTICA-MAN

Member
Oct 26, 2017
23,579
This is actually incorrect- the PS5 version doesn't support VR because PS5, but the version we're getting (PS4) has support for both modes of play. As far as I know there is not a separate PS4 non-VR version.

Regardless. I don't think they will offer a free upgrade to get the Enhanced version on PS5 (that I care the most about) since it's the PS Plus version so they will lock it. I would be really surprised if they overlook this and allow it but I don't have high hopes for it.
 

Ariakon44

Prophet of Truth
Member
Nov 17, 2020
10,175
This is actually incorrect- the PS5 version doesn't support VR because PS5, but the version we're getting (PS4) has support for both modes of play. As far as I know there is not a separate PS4 non-VR version.

The ps5 version was free to those who owned the ps4 version, so hopefully that files over to the plus version as well. the ps5 version is definitely worth a download.
 

Plasma

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,633
For real? I figured the differences in tracking techniques and controller layouts would present issues that would have to be addressed on a case-by-case basis.

I mean, you're going from these

ps-move-2.png

to these
51049009217_4b5ff60333_h.jpg

subtracting 2-3 face buttons from each controller, depending on if you count the sticks.
The simple solution would be to allow you to map buttons to the direction of the sticks, not the best solution but it would work. The different tracking techniques shouldn't matter though, SteamVR manages to translate a bunch of different headsets/controllers all with their own tracking methods so I don't see why Sony can't do something similar.
 

Ariakon44

Prophet of Truth
Member
Nov 17, 2020
10,175
I still wish Sony would put Dreams on the service...or port it to ps5...or even to PC. Something. Anything. Game needs more attention.
 

pikachief

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,522
Nice! Until You Fall and S&S were both games I had considered buying for my Quest. They probably play better in my livingroom space on quest, but free is free lol
 

Pariah

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Oct 29, 2017
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I still wish Sony would put Dreams on the service...or port it to ps5...or even to PC. Something. Anything. Game needs more attention.
It's dead, commercially speaking. There's a demo updated with level rotation and some of the best user-created pieces available for free; it could as well don't exist. Even for sale at 10$ is unable to get into the charts.

PS Plus would just put some eyes on it for a month before being forgotten again. Most people don't care about that sort of proposal anymore.