PlayStation Studios |OT24| All I Want For Christmas Is Shu

Portodutch · Jan 12, 2022

Loudninja said:
Xbox Series S and X hits 1m UK sales in strong December | UK Monthly Charts

560,000 games consoles were sold in December in the UK, which generated just short of £200 million, GamesIndustry.biz c…

www.gamesindustry.biz

Good to see supply picking up again hopefully that continues and for more markets.

OutofMana · Jan 12, 2022

I was thinking about replaying the first game, but I feel like doing so would burn me out leading up to the second one. I'm just going to watch one of those recap videos before starting Forbidden West.

Thera · Jan 12, 2022

Shairi said:
They were quite an active poster here so that's really sad.

Though, I really don't understand them. They came back from 2 long bans back to back and then decided to make a meta-commentary post. Why?

Some people really have to just stick with the OT and don't enter any threads that would trigger them to console war.

Maybe starfoxxxy can figure something out with the mods as it kinda feels a tad harsh to be perma banned for that post.

Honestly, the rule with meta commentary is so weird. I did it one time here and was banned for 48hours. Since then, I see meta commentary almost everyday without action.
48hours for a meta commentary is really harsh, so a perma (even if their is precedent).

Gavalanche · Jan 12, 2022

Thera said:
Honestly, the rule with meta commentary is so weird. I did it one time here and was banned for 48hours. Since then, I see meta commentary almost everyday without action.
48hours for a meta commentary is really harsh, so a perma (even if their is precedent).

As someone who is relatively new to all this, what the heck is meta commentary? I see people referencing it often but I have no idea if I am even doing it. Sorry for my ignorance!

And RIP Starfoxxxy. One of the first people to welcome me here!

MizziPizzi · Jan 12, 2022

F4r0_Atak said:
We all know what that means. 🤣

Lmao 🤣 I can already see the person tied down to a chair with Neil standing there with a pair of steel knuckles getting ready to pound away at him.

Cruella · Jan 12, 2022

Once you're on the shit list, you'll get targeted for pretty innocent comments...

Anyway, I think you guys get too hung up on just one dude's phrasing, even as you see yourselves that it doesn't make much sense. I doubt Squeenix will want any reasonably big IP to go head to head with new Final Fantasy, because why would they.

knack2bae · Jan 12, 2022

TheXboxPost said:
Now that you all say it, I think the reason why they are remaking TLOU and they didn't announce it yet it's because it may be a PSVR2 launch title.

It makes perfect sense... It aligns perfectly with Sony's reasoning behind PSVR2

lol

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

Happy Superior Wednesday.

Wednesday >>>>>> Tuesday.

Sidewinder · Jan 12, 2022

Darkknight2149 said:
I speculated this myself not too long ago. A VR remake of The Last of Us would make a lot more sense than a console remake. It would serve the same purpose of giving the team something to do without the flaw of releasing an unnecessary remake of a game that still holds up. That would help justify it significantly.

And let's not forget giving ND some on hands experience in VR development, it'd be a win win situation.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

I don't think TLOU remake is going to be PSVR2 compatible.

Who knows in the future but at launch for either TLOU remake and/or PSVR2? We had that dev tweet that made it sound as if ND doesn't even have PSVR2 dev kits or are interested in them.

Thera · Jan 12, 2022

Gavalanche said:
As someone who is relatively new to all this, what the heck is meta commentary? I see people referencing it often but I have no idea if I am even doing it. Sorry for my ignorance!

And RIP Starfoxxxy. One of the first people to welcome me here!

Basically : don't use this thread to talk or complained about other thread / post in other thread / members of other thread.

Angie · Jan 12, 2022

TheRealTalker said:
Happy Superior Wednesday.

Wednesday >>>>>> Tuesday.

We will get GoW previews today, and nothing more.

TheXboxPost · Jan 12, 2022

knack2bae said:
lol

Is too farfetched? LOL. Considering that PSVR2 is not "officially" announced with games coming and prices. Just throwing ideas out there. I'd love to see TLOU world in VR.

g-m1n1 · Jan 12, 2022

JuanLatino said:
thanks for clarifying, now i don't need to search for that spot again ^^ So it was just Jaffe and not Ross.

saving the money on license fees and royalties. Getting first hand support from a Partner Studio (Guerilla Games) and have long term stability with a inhouse engine that is modified and evolved inhouse.

a new IP would also be a good moment to switch the engines.

but it seems like they are sticking to Unreal Engine

But people seem to forget that Sony invested half a billion (or smth like that) on Epic.
Having 0 devs using the Unreal engine would be weird.

knack2bae · Jan 12, 2022

TheXboxPost said:
Is too farfetched? LOL. Considering that PSVR2 is not "officially" announced with games coming and prices. Just throwing ideas out there. I'd love to see TLOU world in VR.

PSVR2 was officially announced by Jim Ryan at CES 2022.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

g-m1n1 said:
But people seem to forget that Sony invested half a billion (or smth like that) on Epic.
Having 0 devs using the Unreal engine would be weird.

I believe Pixelopus is using UE and of course Sony Pictures gets its fair use.

rahji · Jan 12, 2022

J 0 E said:
HZD's lore is surprisingly deep, uncovering it was a big motivator for me in the game

A fantastic recap from Eurogamer

It is a great video and reminded me how great the story is. The mysterious atmosphere about the origin was a big motivator when I played that game. I really hope they can come up with a equally strong or even better story. I will never understand people who say that the story is told in a bad way.

Deleted member 6235 · Jan 12, 2022

Just wanna pop in to say that i have finally been playing Horizon: Zero Dawn on PC and holy fucking shit this is still one of the best looking games of all time. It's extremely impressive. Everything. Damn.

Can't wait for Forbidden West on PS5. It will be a spectacular sight.

ChaosSlayer · Jan 12, 2022

g-m1n1 said:
But people seem to forget that Sony invested half a billion (or smth like that) on Epic.
Having 0 devs using the Unreal engine would be weird.

Their investment in Epic has little to do with gaming, though. It aims to accelerate the development of Virtual production tools. Unreal Engine will be mainly used by other divisions for Virtual Production using the Crystal LEDs Tech (Sony Pictures) and Virtual Concerts/events (Sony Immersive Music Studios).

NediarPT88 · Jan 12, 2022

poklane said:
I never know where they get this footage from, but these videos are always interesting in my opinion.

And TIL that Horizon had flying mounts and even airships during the prototype and proof of concept stages. I also love the machines at 1:56

This is great, thanks for posting.

kostacurtas · Jan 12, 2022

J 0 E said:
HZD's lore is surprisingly deep, uncovering it was a big motivator for me in the game

A fantastic recap from Eurogamer

Thanks for sharing this. I just watched it.

I remember very few things from my playthrough so I was looking for a recap before Forbidden West.

The lore of the game is very impressive.

NotSmartEnough · Jan 12, 2022

J 0 E said:
HZD's lore is surprisingly deep, uncovering it was a big motivator for me in the game

A fantastic recap from Eurogamer

I watched half of it last night and really enjoyed it. She's very enthusiastic about Horizon (I think that there's a reaction video to the HFW 14 minute gameplay reveal where's she shows how much of a fan she is). There may have been a slight inaccuracy in some of the stuff about the Chariot line, but I'm not that pedantic...

TheXboxPost · Jan 12, 2022

knack2bae said:
PSVR2 was officially announced by Jim Ryan at CES 2022.

Yes, but we still need to see the hardware+prices. I suppose we will get a showcase in the next few months with this + game announcements.

Broseph · Jan 12, 2022

I don't expect TLOUR in VR but that would be pretty cool

PlanetSmasher · Jan 12, 2022

Arn said:
To be honest, moneyhatting anything from Square Enix in general seems like a colossal waste of money given the vast majority of people invested in Square Enix's Japanese titles are playing on PlayStation anyway.

It is a very weird strategy and I don't really get why Sony is doing it. I feel like even a fraction of the money they're spending on making Square games temporarily exclusive could be used to make an actually exclusive RPG for their users.

Modest_Modsoul · Jan 12, 2022

J 0 E said:
HZD's lore is surprisingly deep, uncovering it was a big motivator for me in the game

A fantastic recap from Eurogamer

Just finished watching it.

It helps that the story in the video was in order from the beginning.

Playing the game & put them infos piece by piece sometimes tedious, but this is convenient.

DinkyBox · Jan 12, 2022

knack2bae said:
PSVR2 was officially announced by Jim Ryan at CES 2022.

It was even announced before that in their blog. Just got more information about the actual product on CES22.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

Wonder what the first PSVR2 hybrid game will be? If those rumours are turn out to be true and Sony wants to push a AAA Hybrid experience.

Maybe the next Astrobot game?

Toumari · Jan 12, 2022

Game Director at Lucid Games has joined Firesprite. Previously worked at Sony on MotorStorm.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/southernmatt/

Danlord · Jan 12, 2022

PlanetSmasher said:
It is a very weird strategy and I don't really get why Sony is doing it. I feel like even a fraction of the money they're spending on making Square games temporarily exclusive could be used to make an actually exclusive RPG for their users.

To me, it seems like it reinforces the brand asssociation even further, and for the cost of a timed-exclusive vs full exclusive could be much lower in terms of cash value, but the benefit for Sony in this case would be further association with these studios that in turn will result in higher attach rate for their games on Sony platforms, and a repeating cycle of investment will happen for these projects.

Arn · Jan 12, 2022

PlanetSmasher said:
It is a very weird strategy and I don't really get why Sony is doing it. I feel like even a fraction of the money they're spending on making Square games temporarily exclusive could be used to make an actually exclusive RPG for their users.

Definitely. Whilst I don't like their strategy of paying for timed exclusives I certainly understand it from a business perspective, and I think their radar for a good game in that respect is second to none (see: Deathloop). I cannot fathom their investments in Square Enix content from any rationale point of view. It's almost frivolous.

DigSCCP · Jan 12, 2022

Ok I pre ordered Horizon and Elden Ring.
I dont know how I'll handle this, because I usually only play one big game at time, but my plan is to play both at the same time lol
I wouldnt mind Elden Ring getting a 3/4 weeks delay to be honest lol

On a side note I gotta say that Im so happy with my decision of going for the PS5 with the disc drive even tho I only bought 3 physical games for the PS4 the whole last gen. Not only I already bought more physical games in the last 6 months than in 7 years but also some pre orders on physical games are with excelent prices here in Brasil. I got Elden Ring for USD36 and Horizon for USD40.

Modest_Modsoul · Jan 12, 2022

And of course after watching that Eurogamer Zero Dawn lore video, my main YouTube page showing one video like "Horizon Forbidden West Full Story Leak".

Lol.

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PlanetSmasher · Jan 12, 2022

Danlord said:
To me, it seems like it reinforces the brand asssociation even further, and for the cost of a timed-exclusive vs full exclusive could be much lower in terms of cash value, but the benefit for Sony in this case would be further association with these studios that in turn will result in higher attach rate for their games on Sony platforms, and a repeating cycle of investment will happen for these projects.

At this point, the brand association is locked in. People who want Square Enix games know they can get them on Playstation. There is no reason to keep ringing that bell, especially at the expense of actually true exclusive software in a sorely underrepresented genre.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

Toumari said:
Game Director at Lucid Games has joined Firesprite. Previously worked at Sony on MotorStorm.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/southernmatt/

Possibly moving with the Twisted Metal project?

PlanetSmasher · Jan 12, 2022

TheRealTalker said:
Possibly moving with the Twisted Metal project?

If Twisted Metal is already in production, it would be very weird to hire a game director midway through the project. Like it's not UNHEARD OF, but typically a director is there from the inception of development, not hired partway through.

I would expect this to be more likely to be ground-setting for a future Wipeout project.

Danlord · Jan 12, 2022

PlanetSmasher said:
At this point, the brand association is locked in. People who want Square Enix games know they can get them on Playstation. There is no reason to keep ringing that bell, especially at the expense of actually true exclusive software in a sorely underrepresented genre.

It's the same reason we still see Pepsi or Coca Cola adverts. They don't effectively need to advertise to their consumers, people are "locked in" as such with one of those or the other. But in doing so, they continue their brand association with the people they're targeting and maintaing there. So the same goes for Sony, it helps maintain that association and further strengthens future partnerships.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

PlanetSmasher said:
If Twisted Metal is already in production, it would be very weird to hire a game director midway through the project. Like it's not UNHEARD OF, but typically a director is there from the inception of development, not hired partway through.

I would expect this to be more likely to be ground-setting for a future Wipeout project.

Didn't we hear that Twisted Metal was moved from Lucid to a Sony First Party studio?

If FireSprite is the one working on it then I could see people who were working on said Twisted Metal deciding to move to FireSprite to continue work there instead of doing whatever Lucid is doing post Twisted Metal.

GamingCJ · Jan 12, 2022

TheRealTalker said:
Didn't we hear that Twisted Metal was moved from Lucid to a Sony First Party studio?

If FireSprite is the one working on it then I could see people who were working on said Twisted Metal deciding to move to FireSprite to continue work there instead of doing whatever Lucid is doing post Twisted Metal.

This sounds very plausible.

Deleted member 10795 · Jan 12, 2022

As a racing game guy, it's always an eye catcher when some of these folks move around within Sony.

I'm climbing the walls for a new Wipeout, and wouldn't say no to a new Motorstorm either.

PlanetSmasher · Jan 12, 2022

TheRealTalker said:
Didn't we hear that Twisted Metal was moved from Lucid to a Sony First Party studio?

If FireSprite is the one working on it then I could see people who were working on said Twisted Metal deciding to move to FireSprite to continue work there instead of doing whatever Lucid is doing post Twisted Metal.

Right. What I'm saying is that Twisted Metal moved studios several months ago. So hiring a game director in January for a project that's already been in active production since last year (October, it seems) just feels like a misaligned timeline. You don't hire and spend time onboarding a game director in the middle of production unless something goes catastrophically wrong.

Danlord said:
It's the same reason we still see Pepsi or Coca Cola adverts. They don't effectively need to advertise to their consumers, people are "locked in" as such with one of those or the other. But in doing so, they continue their brand association with the people they're targeting and maintaing there. So the same goes for Sony, it helps maintain that association and further strengthens future partnerships.

There's a difference between advertising campaigns, which Sony and Square could still partner on regardless of exclusivity contracts, and outright moneyhatting a game to not be on other platforms for a year or two.

Sony could very easily get a marketing deal with Square for FF and use the exclusivity money to fund an actually exclusive RPG from one of their own studios, which would be a win for everyone.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

GamingCJ said:
This sounds very plausible.

Plus they are both located in LiverPool so the move wouldn't be that drastic.

Josh5890 · Jan 12, 2022

Modest_Modsoul said:
And of course after watching that Eurogamer Zero Dawn lore video, my main YouTube page showing one video like "Horizon Forbidden West Full Story Leak".

Lol.

That is why I don't watch youtube videos of video game or other media I am actively involved in, unless I am doing it on a private browser. Too easy to get spoiled, even by a thumbnail.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

PlanetSmasher said:
Right. What I'm saying is that Twisted Metal moved studios several months ago. So hiring a game director in January for a project that's already been in active production since last year (October, it seems) just feels like a misaligned timeline. You don't hire and spend time onboarding a game director in the middle of production unless something goes catastrophically wrong.

Well it counts how far they are in with said project, if they rebooted it and started from scratch, how big said project is, who they need currently and how long do they want to support it.

Loudninja · Jan 12, 2022

Toumari said:
Game Director at Lucid Games has joined Firesprite. Previously worked at Sony on MotorStorm.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/southernmatt/

Huh this is interesting.

PlanetSmasher · Jan 12, 2022

TheRealTalker said:
Well it counts how far they are in with said project, if they rebooted it and started from scratch, how big said project is, who they need currently and how long do they want to support it.

Right. I'm just saying that a game director is not like...an artist or a QA tester or a junior combat designer. A director is a leadership role, and those take longer to onboard and they need to be there from minute one or you run into all kinds of problems throughout the production track.

Like it's POSSIBLE he's on the TM project, but for my money, I think this is a hiring for a future project, NOT the one they were already working on.

TheRealTalker · Jan 12, 2022

Though I'd love for FireSprite to work on a new WipEout. Technically it is their baby since they are formerly made from the ashes of LiverPool/Psygnosis.
We heard that rumour of a new WipEout being made so I'd hope it would be them making such a title for PS5 and PSVR2.

PlanetSmasher said:
Right. I'm just saying that a game director is not like...an artist or a QA tester or a junior combat designer. A director is a leadership role, and those take longer to onboard and they need to be there from minute one or you run into all kinds of problems throughout the production track.

Like it's POSSIBLE he's on the TM project, but for my money, I think this is a hiring for a future project, NOT the one they were already working on.

Well FireSprite is likely almost done with Horizon Call to the Mountain. It feels like a game they might want to release at the launch of PSVR2.

Which frees them up for more projects. I can see them working on two titles simultaneously. Of course one with more devs then the other.

GamingCJ · Jan 12, 2022

PlanetSmasher said:
Right. What I'm saying is that Twisted Metal moved studios several months ago. So hiring a game director in January for a project that's already been in active production since last year (October, it seems) just feels like a misaligned timeline. You don't hire and spend time onboarding a game director in the middle of production unless something goes catastrophically wrong.

I'm not too familiar with British work laws. But in Germany, if you quit in October, then you are usually still bound to your employer until the end of the quarter. Which would line up with changing jobs in January.

the-pi-guy · Jan 12, 2022

Based on the rumors, Firesprite really seems like they're being built as a mega studio of sorts. With the express purpose of pumping out games.

Europe's Insomniac Games without Marvel.

Cthulhu_Steev · Jan 12, 2022

Didn't Matt Southern work on the Lotus games on Amiga? Good racing game pedigree.

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