PlayStation - " The PS5 version of Oddworld: Soulstorm is one of your PlayStation Plus games for April!"

LongLivePlay94 · Feb 26, 2021

Denzar said:
Ironic that an alt-right plucko is behind a game series about enslavement, racism, capitalism, and escaping it all.

I remember reading about the games back in the 90's, these games are actually really grim. If you sit down and read what he was talking about and what the game was about it really did open the eyes a bit.

Naner said:
I think the Oddworld series is some kind of money laundering scheme. It has existed for years but I've never heard about anyone buying it aside from things like this.

Oddworld closed their doors because they got fucked by Microsoft. Literally the company accountant just said you need to shut it down, there isn't any money left. So they did. They got a raw deal twice from publishers so they waiting for self publishing to become a thing. Activision tried to acquire their IP but the offer was so low that they were literally told to go fuck themselves. Sherry and Lorne waited for things like Steam, PSN, XBL etc. to bring Oddworld back and away from publishers who mess with their creative vision.

Another company had been working on remaking Abe's Oddysey but they were really beginning to take the piss and making very little progress which is where Just Add Water came in.

Necron · Feb 26, 2021

Pretty cool.

Huge Oddworld fan here. I'd buy a physical edition but I don't think there has been any word of that so far...

LongLivePlay94 · Feb 26, 2021

Necron said:
Pretty cool.

Huge Oddworld fan here. I'd buy a physical edition but I don't think there has been any word of that so far...

Same here man, I laughed my arse off when Abe came out of the locker and then all the other Mudoken's did or when they were all sneaking behind the slig. I know it wasn't supposed to be funny but it was.

I can't wait to see what the original intention was for Soulstorm as a part of the quintology, we never really got much of the true vision when every other developer working for GT Interactive fuck up and miss their targets when Oddworld hit and they got told they needed a sequel within 6 months. Abe's Exodus was a great sequel but as many PC gamer's described it in the day, it really was an expansion pack, not a sequel.

Euler007 · Feb 26, 2021

Awesome, I was watching the video and kept thinking it's a game I'd want to play but never wind up buying.

Deleted member 46804 · Feb 26, 2021

Snakeeee said:
You have to seed me the link, i dont use twitter.

Mifec said:
Yes and Sony keeps platforming him.

Lorne Lanning(oddworld creater) Twitter feed

So I noticed 8chan had a twitter feed and noticed Lorne Lanning out of the hundreds I follow in the industry was the only one following them. Obviously following them doesn’t mean you like them as a lot of people follow certain people and don’t like them. But then I had a look at his likes. He...

www.resetera.com

Just post that in your OP.

Deleted member 52190 · Feb 26, 2021

DukeNukum said:
Just post that in your OP.

Done, post the info from the OP as well.

Kaswa101 · Feb 26, 2021

At least it won't be at any more PS shows lol

jxN3 · Feb 26, 2021

Lol, Lorne is not a Trump supporter, why is this shit in the OP.

I know him, and this is fucking hilarious. Have you guys not played an Oddworld game?

Ryu_Ken · Feb 27, 2021

Cool, been looking forward to this. Loved some of the older games.

Gnorman · Feb 27, 2021

I love the Oddworld setting so this is great news for me. PS+ has been really good on PS5 so far.

NunezL · Feb 27, 2021

Deleted member 46804 · Feb 27, 2021

jxN3 said:
Lol, Lorne is not a Trump supporter, why is this shit in the OP.

I know him, and this is fucking hilarious. Have you guys not played an Oddworld game?

Have your friend explain what the fuck he is doing then.

Swift_Gamer · Feb 27, 2021

I'm very happy with this giving new games in ps+. I'll have lots of games to play when I get a ps5 one year or so from now.

LastNac · Feb 27, 2021

Worked on this game briefly. I am happy to see it finally get that release date.

If you're an Oddworld fan you're in for a treat.

Sacul64 · Feb 28, 2021

jxN3 said:
Lol, Lorne is not a Trump supporter, why is this shit in the OP.

I know him, and this is fucking hilarious. Have you guys not played an Oddworld game?

LastNac said:
Worked on this game briefly. I am happy to see it finally get that release date.

If you're an Oddworld fan you're in for a treat.

Lorne Lanning(oddworld creater) Twitter feed

So I noticed 8chan had a twitter feed and noticed Lorne Lanning out of the hundreds I follow in the industry was the only one following them. Obviously following them doesn’t mean you like them as a lot of people follow certain people and don’t like them. But then I had a look at his likes. He...

www.resetera.com

Cool what about the 8chan stuff? I will not buy any oddworld game until this is cleared up.

Disco · Mar 1, 2021

Never cared for the franchise found it kinda ugly. Strangers Wrath was great but an anomaly in the series for me. Will be willing to try this out tho if it's ps+

Deleted member 9327 · Mar 1, 2021

If that stuff is true that's not good, but I just don't get ERAs behavior of regularly putting someone in the pillory. Look I'm by no means alt-right nor a trump supporter or Pro Gamergate/Anti SJW or whatever, but what I don't get is that so many people from the industry here get crucified, banned or boycotted etc pp without even being asked about it?! I mean ok for obvious cases like the whole Ubisoft disaster I'll get it.
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys. There is no court, no benefit of the doubt, no possibility for those people to explain or defend or getting a chance to right their wrongs.

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

speaking about the game and JUST the game:
I'm a fan of the series and can't wait for it! It looks awesome and getting it for free via PS Plus is the biggest surprise of the State of Play for me.

Ayra Sutoraifu · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
If that stuff is true that's not good, but I just don't get ERAs behavior of regularly putting someone in the pillory. Look I'm by no means alt-right nor a trump supporter or Pro Gamergate/Anti SJW or whatever, but what I don't get is that so many people from the industry here get crucified, banned or boycotted etc pp without even being asked about it?! I mean ok for obvious cases like the whole Ubisoft disaster I'll get it.
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys. There is no court, no benefit of the doubt, no possibility for those people to explain or defend or getting a chance to right their wrongs.

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

Thank you for posting this… i feel exactly the same.

LastNac · Mar 1, 2021

I'm curious where things will go for the series in the future. I don't think they'd just remake Munch, and I ex[ect a new 3rd for

Sacul64 said:
Lorne Lanning(oddworld creater) Twitter feed

So I noticed 8chan had a twitter feed and noticed Lorne Lanning out of the hundreds I follow in the industry was the only one following them. Obviously following them doesn’t mean you like them as a lot of people follow certain people and don’t like them. But then I had a look at his likes. He...

www.resetera.com

Cool what about the 8chan stuff? I will not buy any oddworld game until this is cleared up.

Do not quote me with any of this stuff for the love of God.

I was an audio guy just saying I worked on the game and it's a real love letter to the fans of the franchise.

LastNac · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
If that stuff is true that's not good, but I just don't get ERAs behavior of regularly putting someone in the pillory. Look I'm by no means alt-right nor a trump supporter or Pro Gamergate/Anti SJW or whatever, but what I don't get is that so many people from the industry here get crucified, banned or boycotted etc pp without even being asked about it?! I mean ok for obvious cases like the whole Ubisoft disaster I'll get it.
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys. There is no court, no benefit of the doubt, no possibility for those people to explain or defend or getting a chance to right their wrongs.

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

speaking about the game and JUST the game:
I'm a fan of the series and can't wait for it! It looks awesome and getting it for free via PS Plus is the biggest surprise of the State of Play for me.

Yeah this place can really be toxic like that and I hope this sort of behavior weeds itself out. Surely it has to.

Speaking for the game and only the game I can say get hyped. It's not just a remake of Exodus at all amd you will be pleasantly surprised.

thebishop · Mar 1, 2021

This was one of the best looking games from the last state of play. I was planning to buy it, so no complaints that it's "free". Very cool.

LastNac said:
Yeah this place can really be toxic like that and I hope this sort of behavior weeds itself out. Surely it has to.

People who want to fight oppression should join a socialist organization. They'll find very quickly that this online culture doesn't build power in real life.

Sacul64 · Mar 1, 2021

It's almost like I am a fan of the first game and was excited to get into the series further with the remakes but dont want to give my money to this guy if he turns out to like 8chan or the alt right. It's as simple as that.

LastNac · Mar 1, 2021

thebishop said:
This was one of the best looking games from the last state of play. I was planning to buy it, so no complaints that it's "free". Very cool.

People who want to fight oppression should join a socialist organization. They'll find very quickly that this online culture doesn't build power in real life.

I'm a little shocked it's a PS Plus game. It's very meaty in terms of content. I reiterate, I legit believe this is going to be the best Oddworld game. If you liked the previous titles this one surpasses them in quality. Also probably the deepest in terms of subject matter and tone.

And I hesitate to talk for someone else, but I can guarantee you this situation isn't one where someone is trying to "oppress" anyone. The tone of the games should give people a clear idea.

ClickyCal' · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys.

Yikes....

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

What devs or games might you be talking about here that you don't like that were "burned at the stake"?

Tora · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
If that stuff is true that's not good, but I just don't get ERAs behavior of regularly putting someone in the pillory. Look I'm by no means alt-right nor a trump supporter or Pro Gamergate/Anti SJW or whatever, but what I don't get is that so many people from the industry here get crucified, banned or boycotted etc pp without even being asked about it?! I mean ok for obvious cases like the whole Ubisoft disaster I'll get it.
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys. There is no court, no benefit of the doubt, no possibility for those people to explain or defend or getting a chance to right their wrongs.

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

speaking about the game and JUST the game:
I'm a fan of the series and can't wait for it! It looks awesome and getting it for free via PS Plus is the biggest surprise of the State of Play for me.

Feel exactly the same way

Flex1212 · Mar 1, 2021

Nice - looks like a fun game. I enjoyed the originals back in the day, will def give this a run.

LakeEarth · Mar 1, 2021

I've never been able to get into the 2D games of the series, but I can still appreciate that this a pretty good choice for PS+ overall.

BlackheartVinyl · Mar 1, 2021

The game looks great! Excited to get it for "free".

SirideanSloan said:
If that stuff is true that's not good, but I just don't get ERAs behavior of regularly putting someone in the pillory. Look I'm by no means alt-right nor a trump supporter or Pro Gamergate/Anti SJW or whatever, but what I don't get is that so many people from the industry here get crucified, banned or boycotted etc pp without even being asked about it?! I mean ok for obvious cases like the whole Ubisoft disaster I'll get it.
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys. There is no court, no benefit of the doubt, no possibility for those people to explain or defend or getting a chance to right their wrongs.

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

speaking about the game and JUST the game:
I'm a fan of the series and can't wait for it! It looks awesome and getting it for free via PS Plus is the biggest surprise of the State of Play for me.

Yep. And this is one of the more absurd examples I've seen of it.

entrydenied · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
If that stuff is true that's not good, but I just don't get ERAs behavior of regularly putting someone in the pillory. Look I'm by no means alt-right nor a trump supporter or Pro Gamergate/Anti SJW or whatever, but what I don't get is that so many people from the industry here get crucified, banned or boycotted etc pp without even being asked about it?! I mean ok for obvious cases like the whole Ubisoft disaster I'll get it.
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys. There is no court, no benefit of the doubt, no possibility for those people to explain or defend or getting a chance to right their wrongs.

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

speaking about the game and JUST the game:
I'm a fan of the series and can't wait for it! It looks awesome and getting it for free via PS Plus is the biggest surprise of the State of Play for me.

Do you honestly believe that Era has the power to bring down someone or a game? We are but 50 thousand posters. It's about bringing awareness and letting others decide whether they want to get the game or not.

Vinimaw · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
If that stuff is true that's not good, but I just don't get ERAs behavior of regularly putting someone in the pillory. Look I'm by no means alt-right nor a trump supporter or Pro Gamergate/Anti SJW or whatever, but what I don't get is that so many people from the industry here get crucified, banned or boycotted etc pp without even being asked about it?! I mean ok for obvious cases like the whole Ubisoft disaster I'll get it.
What scares me is if ERA would be a government than it probably wouldn't be any better than any alt-right guys. There is no court, no benefit of the doubt, no possibility for those people to explain or defend or getting a chance to right their wrongs.

Instead of actually talking to those accused people, asking them about the stuff and see how they respond or give them a chance to defend and explain themselves, maybe even to apologize there is at least one thread a week where someone gets pointed out, accused and crucified with lots of era users saying they won't buy game x/y.

There are lots of hard working people behind those games and all you can do is accuse one of them and then boycott the whole game without even asking the accused person about it or give the rest of the team the benefit of the doubt nor respect. I mean WTF?! That's like in the dark ages when someone shouted WITCH(ER) and everyone burns or lapidates the person without even asking. That's just sick! And that is something I can't stand that much longer on this board tbh.

You summed up my feelings of recent months on Era, it's like peoples are guilty until proven otherwise.

Deleted member 9327 · Mar 1, 2021

entrydenied said:
Do you honestly believe that Era has the power to bring down someone or a game? We are but 50 thousand posters. It's about bringing awareness and letting others decide whether they want to get the game or not.

Is this a forum for gaming enthusiasts about games or about pointing out personal beliefs, behaviors and politic views of individuals from the industry just for the sake of it and boycotting the hard work of a lot of people? In RL there are people whose views I don't share or like, but as long they don't try to talk me into them, hurt someone or do something illegal I never would point out them publicly and that's perfectly fine. That's democracy and freedom of speech just like in most western countries and a real privilege.

Pointing out people/devs on this forum because of Tweets they like without any context and sticking that to the thread title and into the OP which literally has 0 to do with the game itself and the work of the rest of the team is sickening and just wrong.

Make a separate thread for this stuff in OT.

deepFlaw · Mar 1, 2021

Get the fuck out of here if you're whining about "witch hunts".

BlackheartVinyl said:
The game looks great! Excited to get it for "free".

Yep. And this is one of the more absurd examples I've seen of it.

How is this "absurd", exactly?

ZeroX · Mar 1, 2021

Has Lorne actually done anything or said anything other than liking those tweets and a few interviews where he came off as a dick? From a quick glance of his Twitter he hasn't said anything controversial in the last year.

like if there's examples please share, but people comparing him to JK Rowling or CDPR like what? As far as I can tell he's done nothing remotely as bad and his reach is absolutely tiny in comparison. He doesn't even appear to tweet very often. I feel like I'm missing something here.

deepFlaw · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
Is this a forum for gaming enthusiasts about games or about pointing out personal beliefs, behaviors and politic views of individuals from the industry just for the sake of it and boycotting the hard work of a lot of people? In RL there are people whose views I don't share or like, but as long they don't try to talk me into them, hurt someone or do something illegal I never would point out them publicly and that's perfectly fine. That's democratic and free live just like in most western countries and a real privilege.

Pointing out people/devs on this forum because of Tweets they like without any context and sticking that to the thread title and into the OP which literally has 0 to do with the game itself and the work of the rest of the team is sickening and just wrong.

Make a separate thread for this stuff in OT.

Nah. There's nothing inherently "democratic" about having no consequences for being a bad person and "what about the other devs" is foolish nonsense time and time again. If people boycott a game, the other devs were not owed that purchase, just as they would not be if someone decided not to buy it for any other reason.

Lorne Lanning is the face of these games, he's the name associated with them, he is tied to them so his shit gets tied to them too. If you don't like that, that's on him.

EDIT:

ZeroX said:
Has Lorne actually done anything or said anything other than liking those tweets and a few interviews where he came off as a dick? From a quick glance of his Twitter he hasn't said anything controversial in the last year.

like if there's examples please share, but people comparing him to JK Rowling or CDPR like what? As far as I can tell he's done nothing remotely as bad and his reach is absolutely tiny in comparison. He doesn't even appear to tweet very often. I feel like I'm missing something here.

I only saw a single person compare them, unless I missed something? I don't agree with that poster, because JKR and CDPR both are very different situations, and most people here already seem to understand as much.

But that doesn't mean people shouldn't know about this still.

test_account · Mar 1, 2021

Zehzin said:
Maybe now it won't be in every State of Play.

It will be included in the next two State of Play epsiodes as well! ;) Hehe, just kidding.

More seriously though, out of curiousity, how many State of Play episodes has it been included in? I know about the Playstation announcement trailer from mid 2020 (was this the first trailer for the game, by the way? Or had it been mentioned or shown in some fashion before this?), then a new trailer a few months later, and a new trailer and announcement some day ago that its included with PS+. Has it been in more State of Play episodes that maybe i forgot about?

But those 3 times i mentioned at least might sounds like quite a bit over a shorter period of time, indeed, i can see that situation, but personally i think it its been ok with updates on the game. The 2nd trailer was only like 2.5 minutes long, so it wasnt shown too much in that State of Play episode for example. It is also a semi bigger title as well from a more known IP, in my opinion :)

EDIT: I added some text.

Shemhazai · Mar 1, 2021

ZeroX said:
Has Lorne actually done anything or said anything other than liking those tweets and a few interviews where he came off as a dick? From a quick glance of his Twitter he hasn't said anything controversial in the last year.

like if there's examples please share, but people comparing him to JK Rowling or CDPR like what? As far as I can tell he's done nothing remotely as bad and his reach is absolutely tiny in comparison. He doesn't even appear to tweet very often. I feel like I'm missing something here.

Had a look into it since this was the first I'd heard of Lanning being right-leaning and it seemed odd based on the content of his games.

Found an interview with GI.biz where he says he's philosophically pro-death penalty and pro-unions, but doesn't believe either work properly in real life. And as someone who's vehemently anti-death penalty and vehemently pro-union I honestly can't make up my mind about how to take his statement.

He is, however, seemingly defending crunch, which he raises some valid points for despite my own disagreement with the practice overall. As a creative I do see were he's coming from with regards to art and ambition but I don't think that it can really be applied to the modern games industry at all.

I think it essentially seems like he's a libertarian bootstrapper rather than being hateful? Haven't been able to find much more than that article regarding his personal politics. Definitely not Rowling levels of hateful, but he definitely has some contentious opinions that seemingly run counter to the messaging in some of his games.

test_account · Mar 1, 2021

EDIT: I did a double post instead of editing my previous post, sorry about that.

entrydenied · Mar 1, 2021

SirideanSloan said:
Is this a forum for gaming enthusiasts about games or about pointing out personal beliefs, behaviors and politic views of individuals from the industry just for the sake of it and boycotting the hard work of a lot of people? In RL there are people whose views I don't share or like, but as long they don't try to talk me into them, hurt someone or do something illegal I never would point out them publicly and that's perfectly fine. That's democracy and freedom of speech just like in most western countries and a real privilege.

Pointing out people/devs on this forum because of Tweets they like without any context and sticking that to the thread title and into the OP which literally has 0 to do with the game itself and the work of the rest of the team is sickening and just wrong.

Make a separate thread for this stuff in OT.

Nobody has called for a boycott in this thread or is attempting to start a boycott movement. And people are not just pointing it out " for the sake of it". It's funny that you talk about freedom of speech but yet is complaining about posters exercising that right on this forum.

Also, the last I check, 99 percent of the threads here are still about games and playing games so yes this is still a gaming enthusiast forum. For some of us, that also means talking about the politics behind games and raising awareness about who are making these games and what games and their creators stand for.

LastNac · Mar 1, 2021

ZeroX said:
Has Lorne actually done anything or said anything other than liking those tweets and a few interviews where he came off as a dick? From a quick glance of his Twitter he hasn't said anything controversial in the last year.

like if there's examples please share, but people comparing him to JK Rowling or CDPR like what? As far as I can tell he's done nothing remotely as bad and his reach is absolutely tiny in comparison. He doesn't even appear to tweet very often. I feel like I'm missing something here.

No he hasn't. Liking some tweets or following some accounts is the extent of his public "infamy."

Having spent several months being one of only a handful of people in the studio and maybe 4 feet away from his computer I was only ever treated with dignity and respect by him. As for crunch? He tended to be the first in and the last out of the office and never asked anyone to stay late when I was there.

My impressions are based exclusively off my experiences with him and they were massively positive.

Edit: Dumb typos 🤦‍♂️

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