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PlayStation will not host a conference for E3 2019 (No off site event either)
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2019. 84tf. 64gb of ram. Knack 3. It's got it all.
You're 2 years too early.
You're 2 years too early.
This is the weird part. Nintendo, for instance, has presence at the actual place, even if they don't any conferences outside of their E3 Direct stuff. So the fact that Sony won't even have a booth to show off stuff is really, really... strange.
ha you're wrong. it's only been 35 pages69 pages later and team 2019 is still lingering around......
that's what you do at E3, companies that havent done that have gotten slammed. that is why its a good move, among other reasons, why they arent going next year. Dont show up to something your making people waste their time over getting seats, tickets, ect
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Must admit, and I don't want this to delve into any kind of console war, but the difference in reaction when Nintendo announced in 2016 that they would only showcase Zelda at E3 (while still having a huge booth) versus Sony announcing that they won't have any kind of presence at all at E3 2019 both conference and booth-wise is rather... fascinating to say the least lol.
Aye lol! I remember thinking how cheap bastards Nintendo was lol! Now, with Sony, I'm thinking... hmmm, I wonder what they're up to? Oops, sorry!
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This goes to show how much games are just like politics: since most people on this site are affiliated to the Sony party, they'll blindly justify anything their party leader/president says. it's absolutely crazy.
If this was Nintendo or Microsoft, I can assure you the general tone would be entirely different.
There are still going to be great third party games plus what they already have announced. I'd actually rather they concentrate on PS5 to have a great launch window at this point myself.
Sony only had one conference this year and that was E3. So, it legitimately could be a long time until we see another Sony conference, whenever and however they choose to do it.
What is with the persecution complex among Nintendo fans (and fanboys in general) on this site
Look up the definition of a persecution complex before undermining the people actually suffering from that so lightly. Comparing two situations is not that, chief.
Could you please explain why this makes sense from a marketing perspective? I think E3 is part of why ps4 is such a success. It was definitely not their own reveal event.
To me it seems that you reach a far greater audience at E3 than at your own events which are targeted towards your core audience. I think E3 is where you get to turnover xbox and nintendo fans to PS.
Do you actually believe that Sony in 2019 is the same as Nintendo in 2016?
Not a persecution, it's real.
I say this as a guy who likes Sony more than Microsoft and Nintendo, but you can't deny the times MS and Nintendo announced they were skipping E3 in a way or another there has been way more doom and gloom than now. I mean, there is also people completely dismissing E3 as irrilevant, while it isn't, at all.
I can understand people being less worried because Sony still has games to release and more announced, but completely dismissing every criticism and some doubts coming from other people is wrong.
Different context. It's not like MS where they have gotten flack for their first party line up. Or Nintendo where they came off a struggling Wii U. It's not a console war thing, it's just considering context.
This is the same behaviour that Nintendo fanboys have when someone tries to doubt Nintendo and its world but, strange thing, only Sony users take the blame.
There are rotten apples in every fandom but some fandoms love to play the role of victim more than others...
Well, sure
But that'll happen with every fanbase :p
Whining, sure
Well, i wish sometimes fanbases would be less protective and more willing to put in discussion their unconditional love for a brand.
I mean I was a bit baffled to say the least at how really quite benign criticism of the box art of Days Gone was resulting in several users here being quite... offended and taking it so personally. And that's just one example I noticed just over the last week.
So yeah whilst I think LK is missing some context I do disagree with the bolded here and I can definitely see where they're coming from, it's an interesting observation if nothing else.
Some people treat their favorite console manufacturer like their favorite sports teams
Best to just ignore the diehards and move on
I'd argue that at best the fact that they're coming from a successful year allows to be less skeptical and down from them skipping E3 after having skipped PSX and coming off an E3 that was relatively seen as underwhelming (although I was personally fine with it). Still, doesn't really explain how people can brush off so easily the announcement that they don't have 1st party PS4 games to announce anymore and that they'll entirely miss one of the most important time of the year for the industry. Even seen arguments that it's actually a good and bold move. Just interesting to see the complete opposite reaction to what was seen with different publishers in the past.
You are way to hung up on the past - E3 isn't the end all be all, and it hasn't been for a while. During this generation Playstation, as a brand, has transcended an no longer need E3 - much like Blizzard, Rockstar etc.
I suspect one of the reasons Sony decided to cancel PSX 2018, was to move it away from The Game Awards and into the Spring 2019 - a month or a few weeks before E3, which would render their presence at E3 useless. Also, do you honestly believe Sony will go 12-18 months without a press conference in North America?
I dont think Sony sees much marketing value in showing the last of us 2, death stranding and ghost of tsushima again.
And they dont want to show Ps5 stuff yet.
So what do you want them to do at E3?
Sony just don't have enough to show in 2019. But that's not a criticism in itself They have enough already slated for 2019 (Dreams /Ghosts of Tsushima/Days Gone/Last of Us 2....cant see Death Stranding next year), plus that cool looking graffiti game (?) that, if another publisher had that line up in any given year, it'd be considered a success.
They are holding some stuff back for the PS5 now.
I'm really excited for next gen The exclusives of Sony mean I'm likely to be in. But MS have done enough too to make me realise I'm buying both next gen. More games for me, more jobs for them!
They are holding some stuff back for the PS5 now.
I'm really excited for next gen The exclusives of Sony mean I'm likely to be in. But MS have done enough too to make me realise I'm buying both next gen. More games for me, more jobs for them!
It's only interesting concerning opposite reactions if it's the exact same people making hypocritical comments about similar situations because their favourite company is involved. And even then the only interest would be from people that want to use them in crow mega posts or to use as a gotcha moment in an inevitable later argument about the same old things.
Hopefully most see that every thread goes the same way eventually. There's not more or less of one particular set of fans here, that's a lazy throwback to Neogaf, it just depends on what thread you're in at that time. If it's good news you'll have some saying it isn't while others keep replying to them to say it is. If it's bad news you'll have some bending over backwards to stick up for it while others keep replying to say what they think is wrong. And in both you'll see the usual suspects battling back and forth in between all that like jilted lovers.
Hopefully most see that every thread goes the same way eventually. There's not more or less of one particular set of fans here, that's a lazy throwback to Neogaf, it just depends on what thread you're in at that time. If it's good news you'll have some saying it isn't while others keep replying to them to say it is. If it's bad news you'll have some bending over backwards to stick up for it while others keep replying to say what they think is wrong. And in both you'll see the usual suspects battling back and forth in between all that like jilted lovers.
At this stage in the generation I can't imagine many 1st or 3rd party developers are willing to dedicate the resources to build a crowd pleasing E3 stage demo.
Pretty massive risk actually when you consider how it could cause a game to slip to next gen and miss out on the PS4's large install base.
MS are sure to be busting out some of the fruits of their news teams, projects for 2019 and also next-gen plans. They won't leave the chance to have an E3 to themselves but not talking up everything they have planned.
It might be bad for (smaller) Japanese third parties/releases too. Sony's E3 was really the best way for those games to get attention and that's an opportunity they won't have in 2019. Those publishers/developers are also the least likely to on PS5 day one.
People, you need to realize the difference between "Sony skipping E3 because they don't have games to announce" and "Sony skipping E3 because they can't announce what they have".
Obviously the "can't" part is because of the PS5, you can't reveal games to a console not officially announced yet.
"But what about PS4?" Well, PS4 is already set for the next two years, posters here posted the 1st party games multiple times and I don't need to list them again. Spread well through the next two I say they are more than enough exclusive wise. Now games wise as also including 3rd party stuff, boy oh boy you are set for 3 years not just the next two. The 1st half of 2019 alone could be the busiest half releases wise that we had in a while (KH3, RE2, AC7, Sekiro,Anthem, Metro...etc).
This is what some here fail to comprehend, this is not the Nintendo/Breath of the Wild E3 2016 situation. Sony doesn't have a console struggling with sales and releases. This a strategic move on Sony's part.
Now you can be disappointing for the no show, that's fine, I'm disappointed too. E3 is as they say the Christmas of video-games. But knowing the circumstances I can swallow Sony skipping this one.
Obviously the "can't" part is because of the PS5, you can't reveal games to a console not officially announced yet.
"But what about PS4?" Well, PS4 is already set for the next two years, posters here posted the 1st party games multiple times and I don't need to list them again. Spread well through the next two I say they are more than enough exclusive wise. Now games wise as also including 3rd party stuff, boy oh boy you are set for 3 years not just the next two. The 1st half of 2019 alone could be the busiest half releases wise that we had in a while (KH3, RE2, AC7, Sekiro,Anthem, Metro...etc).
This is what some here fail to comprehend, this is not the Nintendo/Breath of the Wild E3 2016 situation. Sony doesn't have a console struggling with sales and releases. This a strategic move on Sony's part.
Now you can be disappointing for the no show, that's fine, I'm disappointed too. E3 is as they say the Christmas of video-games. But knowing the circumstances I can swallow Sony skipping this one.
It's almost as if the two situations are very different. Nintendo were at maybe their lowest low, had a new system everyone knew was coming on the way, had next to nothing except Zelda lined up for the WiiU, waited till E3 was 6 weeks away before announcing their plans and were the first major first party to skip it. While Sony's at their highest high, will probably be 18 months from the PS5 launch by the time E3 happens, have a very strong lineup of PS4 games still to come and announced their plans 7 months in advance.
The first one to do it was always going to get the most heat but everything else contributed. People were extremely disappointed the NX wasn't going to be announced at E3.
Also, the vast majority of fans don't care about the booths, they just want cool conferences.
I think that even 2021 was more likely for a PS5 than 2019 was. Development times have skyrocketed this gen. Having this generation last only 5-6 years is simply not enough and the jump in the tech would not be as big to justify it.
Yup, PS5 is definitely coming out fall 2019.
We canceled PSX 2018 and E3 2019 in preparation for it.
We canceled PSX 2018 and E3 2019 in preparation for it.
I think Microsoft is gonna avoid going first as much as possible after what happened last time
They don't have things to announce for ps4 because they already announced everything. It's on Sony ofc but don't act like they have no games to actually release. That's only thing that matters
Skipping e3 is a bold move, but with Sony position right now it can work out for them. Other companies don't have this kind of power right now.
But I'm not saying that it won't backfire on them. Only time will tell
That's the interesting part to me. There was a post earlier that said it better but MS has been talking up the Xbone X as this powerhouse. And then come E3 they'll shift focus on Scarlet or the whatever the next Xbox is called? If so, doesn't seem like enough breathing room.
I'm curious to see how they balance the messaging for the One X and the next generation Xbox. I could see that being troublesome if they aren't precise with the messaging.
How do you talk about next gen without undermining the one X?
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You have TGS or PSX for that. When was the last time when Sony showed smaller japanese games at E3?
They had a good chat about it on yesterday's Kinda Funny Games Daily and Andrea Rene brought up some great points about why it might be bad idea.
Sony didn't have a PSX this year either and TGS is a Japanese event. That doesn't help companies on global stage.
I'd argue Monster Hunter World last year was the last time, the franchise was already big but not outside of Japan and having the reveal during Sony's E3 was massive.
It's not just about the conference either, Sony isn't going to have any presence whatsoever, which means no pre-show, streams or booth.
Other things I'd like point:
*Sony definitely can still have a E3 show even if they don't have a single new game to announce, excluding Days Gone and maybe Concrete Genie and Dreams as the might be released before E3, I don't think players would mind seeing more of their 1st party offering. We saw only one gameplay demo of Last of Us II so another demo with different setting can be a good showing. Death Stranding, no cinematic gameplay trailer this time, just a good 10-15 minutes gameplay demo, maybe with a boss fight ending. Ghost of Tsushima this time you use a gameplay cinematic trailer. Gameplay reveal of Nioh 2 (not 1st party but exclusive) ...etc. You see what I'm trying to say, they can still mix it up with what they have shown before.
Also they can pull a MicroSoft with 3rd party reveals as in buy the rights to reveal the games on their stage just like MS did E3 this year with games like Sekiro, DMC5, Jumb Force...etc. I mean MS didn't even have an exclusive marketing deals with some of these games, they just bought them being revealed on their stage first and MS was well received for it!
*I highly doubt there are no more PS4 1st party games other than what was announced. Surly they have at least a couple small ones, and I highly speculate there are unannounced AAA games that are cross gen but they don't want to announce them as PS4 games that can be played on PS5. They want them to be perceived as PS5 games that can be played on your PS4 console.
*There is mismanagement of Sony's conferences I have a strong opinion about that and I think a lot of Sony fans share that opinion. Sony have the goods but they mismanage the way they present them, E3 this year showed us that, the flute guy and intermission and other nonsense. The games that other publishers would love to have to showcase them, Sony executives didn't see the value. I mean in a hindsight look at Astro bot, high metascore and GOTY contender, shouldn't a game like that be one of the highlights of your conference? Dragon Quest 11, Tetris effect, Beat Saber and other more got the same treatment. Sony should really get better people who can manage their conferences.
That's all I have for now.
*Sony definitely can still have a E3 show even if they don't have a single new game to announce, excluding Days Gone and maybe Concrete Genie and Dreams as the might be released before E3, I don't think players would mind seeing more of their 1st party offering. We saw only one gameplay demo of Last of Us II so another demo with different setting can be a good showing. Death Stranding, no cinematic gameplay trailer this time, just a good 10-15 minutes gameplay demo, maybe with a boss fight ending. Ghost of Tsushima this time you use a gameplay cinematic trailer. Gameplay reveal of Nioh 2 (not 1st party but exclusive) ...etc. You see what I'm trying to say, they can still mix it up with what they have shown before.
Also they can pull a MicroSoft with 3rd party reveals as in buy the rights to reveal the games on their stage just like MS did E3 this year with games like Sekiro, DMC5, Jumb Force...etc. I mean MS didn't even have an exclusive marketing deals with some of these games, they just bought them being revealed on their stage first and MS was well received for it!
*I highly doubt there are no more PS4 1st party games other than what was announced. Surly they have at least a couple small ones, and I highly speculate there are unannounced AAA games that are cross gen but they don't want to announce them as PS4 games that can be played on PS5. They want them to be perceived as PS5 games that can be played on your PS4 console.
*There is mismanagement of Sony's conferences I have a strong opinion about that and I think a lot of Sony fans share that opinion. Sony have the goods but they mismanage the way they present them, E3 this year showed us that, the flute guy and intermission and other nonsense. The games that other publishers would love to have to showcase them, Sony executives didn't see the value. I mean in a hindsight look at Astro bot, high metascore and GOTY contender, shouldn't a game like that be one of the highlights of your conference? Dragon Quest 11, Tetris effect, Beat Saber and other more got the same treatment. Sony should really get better people who can manage their conferences.
That's all I have for now.