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PlayStation Worldwide Studios |OT6| The only JRPGs we're getting are Jim Ryan Party GIFs
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Yeah, Sony probably would have saved quite a bit of money had they acquired Insomniac during the PS3 gen or at the start of this one. Still, I'm sure they're gonna get their moneys worth.
You guys should really watch the Kinda Funny video from last weekend where they have the Media Molecule folks talk about the game and how they're approaching the release. Greg Miller straight up asked them if they feel Sony is fully backing them with Dreams and she actually explained it quite well that this is relatively new territory for both Sony and Media Molecule and that they're learning as they go.
This is not a 'review it once and done' game that either succeeds or fails based on the initial Metacritic or Opencritic results. Dreams is a prime example of a GAAS that will evolve over time. Both in content and functionality. MM mentioned they really see the initial launch as the go live of the Dreams service and they also told that they'll keep working on new content that adds to the initial 2-3 hour 'campaign' and improve the tools based on community feedback.
This is not a 'review it once and done' game that either succeeds or fails based on the initial Metacritic or Opencritic results. Dreams is a prime example of a GAAS that will evolve over time. Both in content and functionality. MM mentioned they really see the initial launch as the go live of the Dreams service and they also told that they'll keep working on new content that adds to the initial 2-3 hour 'campaign' and improve the tools based on community feedback.
They weren't selling then though. They tried back then but Ted Price wasn't giving up the goods.
i assume you are only referring to the 2018 acquisitions and later, and you will probably be right.
I think that there is a question of what did they actually win from this when you think about the fact most of insomniac's attempts to do something new outside of playstation pretty much bombed.
But i guess that it was more of a defensive acquisition than anything else.
I think Sony misunderstands what made them great for the past 10 years. It's high quality exclusives that pushed PlayStation to the top. Not a peripheral. Guerrilla Cambridge would certainly have been better off making an FPS at AA or AAA quality for the PS4 than RIGS for PSVR. Especially because Sony has had one AAA FPS exclusive the entire gen and it came out the first day. They were under saturated with FPS when RIGS came out. A PS4 game would have done magnitudes better. It's not debatable. And I have tried VR before. It's very cool but it isn't the life changing experience that people swear by.
Matt alluded that this was one of the reasons for the acquisition. Would only make sense that there were other platform holders (besides Sony) for looking to acquire Insomniac.
"That's one reason, but far from the only reason."
"There is a general arms race going on for development teams right now. If that wasn't the case, I don't know if the deal would have happened."
I won't say that since they always wanted to buy IG but they were never up for sale.
If anything this is Ted being a smart business person .
He getting older and IG had to be worth the most it had ever had been and MS were buying up devs.
So he get a great pay day while also able to make games until he ready to retired .
Yeah, I'm starting to believe they'll just do a massive blow out of information in June. Everything including the PS5 design, DS5, games, launch price etc etc.
If there is anything before June I'll eat my hat.
Thanks for the info.
But since IGN probably already played Art's Dreams, I assume they'll published the campaign review for it.
Or will they published the full Dreams review?
We were looking to run it on Wednesday, but our reviewer is involved in a livestream for the game on launch day. So it's probably going to be at the weekend.
Dreams is updating for the early access players tomorrow, why would they need a review if they already purchased the game? Full release isn't until Friday. There is still time.
I don't think anybody here knows for sure, including both of us. I do not have a hat I can eat, I am however so convinced that we'll see nothing before June that I'm willing to lay down an avatar bet.
What's this "Dreams" you guys keep talking about? I haven't seen any commercials or ads for it, so I'm totally blind here.
It's basically ripped straight from Mortal Kombat actually.
And way cartoony for GoW imho.
The Insomniac acquisition was surely a power play by Sony, to a degree. I fully believe Sony has tried maaaany times to buy the studio before, Spider-man just convinced them to offer such a batshit high offer to Insomniac that they could never refuse.
I think May is the last month for reveal information. June is too late.
Plus i don't think Sony even wanted to risk having a Xbox-Bungie/Nintendo-Rare situation in their hands were Insomniac walked away/was taken off the board. Losing Insomniac would have been a critical blow against SIE's output, Sony had to lock them down at some point.
There is no way they're skipping the opportunity to market ps5 during the champions league.
Peeps. I was also a firm believer that we'd get a reveal in February. However, due to the recent PS5 site asking people to register interest, I am now convinced we'll now get the reveal in June or later.
You really think they made people register for info 4 MONTHS before?
Stop fighting it, let the abyss take you and forget the PS5 for a while. Trust me, going numb is muuuuch better XD
Quarter after quarter PSN is making more money than their closest two competitors entire gaming divisions combined. I'm thinking Bluepoint and a few others.
First 3 days of Spider-Man money probably helped lol. Last I heard the collab was at 12/13 million copies sold.
I listened to a podcast with Seamus Blackley where he said that Sony's strength and what they value most is creativity. I don't see the purchase of insomniac as a defensive move because it's been rumoured and even confirmed from a few non spec leaking "insiders" that Sony tried to aquire them years before. The purchase at peak price is a testament.
A "We wanted you back and and still want you today" type of statement.
In retrospect this interview with the Spidey creative director is actually quite telling.
They already put Greek Kratos in there. Put in Norse Kratos in the next one.
Yep. At least two more. Still Bluepoint, Remedy, Ready at Dawn, Housemarque and Arrowhead out there ;)
They began dropping PS5 info almost a year ago, so there's no problem for Sony to do this kind of things in advance.
They had no choice. Insomniac was basically already a part of WWS, they wanted to go with Sony. However I don't doubt Microsoft and Google made offers. Maybe even Amazon. Sony had to pull the trigger before the price was unaffordable (Basically Google and Amazon start throwing around more cash than Sony has or MS is able to spend within XGS budget).
We're on the same page and same paragraph!
I don't think the amount on the table matters as much to a studio of Insomniac's calibre as opposed to who is offering and the terms and conditions. Imagine getting double whatever Sony offered and then having your studio tied to one ip. A suite of creatives arguably at the top of their game purchased by X publisher and flipped into a by-yearly factory for a single ip?
There are too many examples to mention. And my guess is for a creative that must be hell.
Insomniac doesn't even own their best IP (Ratchet, Spider-Man, Spyro, Resistance). If you've done the due diligence to purchase they studio, you know you would be buying talent, not intellectual property by which to tie the studio down with. I'd like to think, especially watching Sony's success over the last decade and Xbox's pivot, that anyone with a vested interest in the industry knows studio are at their best when they aren't creatively restricted. You pay double with a contract favored towards Insomniac to get one of the best studios to ever do it, on your platform selling your hardware (Stadia, whatever Amazon is doing). I think the industry knows what Insomnaic is worth, Sony had to snag them before someone else inevitably offered them good terms. It just helps that again, I believe they wanted to be a part of PlayStation.
Tks for the reminder!! Love the special treatment for beta guys
Yeah same !
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It's not impossible at all. Keep dropping little hints every month, build up the hype then BOOM. Pure 100% dump in one hit. I'm confident that's how it'll go down
That's why they shadow drop this early news.
But you don't start "sign in for news" campaign that earlier.
By comparison, Microsoft bought Rare for 375M$ in 2002 and Electronic Arts bought Respawn for 315M$ in 2017 (but probably more than 400M$ with the bonus from certain performance milestone).
Sony bought Insomniac for almost half the amount of Respawn, absolutely bargain.
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