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PlayStation Worldwide Studios |OT6| The only JRPGs we're getting are Jim Ryan Party GIFs
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Looks like Halley finally found that pinball machine that Neil was playing the other day
Is she doing the Drake face?
I really hope they don't remove anything from the console because of that. If the software (features and games) is impressive, people will not complain about paying $500. That's why they need some heavy hitters like Horizon 2, or something of that caliber
I doubt they will remove anything. The cancelled camera feature seems to be about dedicated cameras and not PS5.
Nah...ps+ price will go up, console price will remain somewhere between $399-450
While $500 is certainly possible, I still think that $400 isn't out of question. We aren't talking about a PS3 situation where even at $600 they were still selling at the console at a several hundred dollar loss compared to how much the console was taking to build. But another big factor that's in play is PSN. Back when the PS3 launched some games were on PSN and others weren't. Now every game is on PSN and they have Plus on top of that. So, taking a loss isn't going to make them bleed like it did with the PS3. Particularly if that initial hit ensures that they can keep people within the PS ecosystem.
Even Sony's CFO thinks SIE is staying too quiet on the PS5, lmao
Also, hopefully this means the PS5 won't be as insanely loud as the PS4:
Some very quick notes from Remedy 2019 results
- Expect Control to be ported on PS5/Xbox Series X
- Project 3 (the next new IP after Control) and Project 4 (a multiplayer service game) are on preproduction
- 2020 will be CrossfireX and Control expansions only but they are expecting a better year financially
- They earned 5,2 M€ net profits in 2019, despite Control not setting the charts on fire
- 248 employees (24% growth in 2019)
- Expect Control to be ported on PS5/Xbox Series X
- Project 3 (the next new IP after Control) and Project 4 (a multiplayer service game) are on preproduction
- 2020 will be CrossfireX and Control expansions only but they are expecting a better year financially
- They earned 5,2 M€ net profits in 2019, despite Control not setting the charts on fire
- 248 employees (24% growth in 2019)
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Also the words "delayed" and "tease" are to be redefined in 2020.
I'm expecting $500 for PS5. That's what I'm planning for. If they have some f2p games ready for launch it would help.
That BoM is interesting. As far as I remember the PS4 cost 381 back in 2013 (please correct me if I'm wrong). Using an inflation calculator - that would be about 421 dollars today. So the PS5 would be beefier from a cost perspective, *if* it is sitting at 450. A clear sign that they are more confident going into the next generation.
I just realized; Control GOTY Edition with Ray Tracing... alright looks like I'm gonna hold on a bit longer.
Looks like Halley finally found that pinball machine that Neil was playing the other day
My prediction:
PS5 and XSX are going to be 500€/$
Both MS and Sony will take a loss, higher or lower depends on various factors
They will bet rely or bet on PS+ and Xbox Live/Gamepass to recoup cost as soon as possible; if not, i don't exclude a price increase for both services in 2021.
PS5 and XSX are going to be 500€/$
Both MS and Sony will take a loss, higher or lower depends on various factors
They will bet rely or bet on PS+ and Xbox Live/Gamepass to recoup cost as soon as possible; if not, i don't exclude a price increase for both services in 2021.
I think SIE & Jim Ryan deserved for that.
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Lately all I've been thinking about The Last of Us is having at least one duet performance between Ellie and Joel, the chance to play guitar with Ellie at your own convenience, whenever you want, interacting with every neighbour and every store in Jackson, as if it was an expanded Nepal, a breathing place for the audience to inhabit and care about... I hope this redefinition of what a big project means comes from those little details, an organic downtime throughout the whole adventure, adding weight to your actions, inviting you to stay.
On a different order of things, it seems I was too optimistic with the future of Control: it was all but confirmed that it would be adapted to next-gen systems, but I expected a patch for current users, not a different version. Understandable, but hardly convincing at a time where their Season Pass content has not released yet; why buying it during this year, when that future release will most probably include all that, plus the technical benefits of running on a new hardware? It's not written on stone as of now, so let's see how exactly they approach this matter.
On a different order of things, it seems I was too optimistic with the future of Control: it was all but confirmed that it would be adapted to next-gen systems, but I expected a patch for current users, not a different version. Understandable, but hardly convincing at a time where their Season Pass content has not released yet; why buying it during this year, when that future release will most probably include all that, plus the technical benefits of running on a new hardware? It's not written on stone as of now, so let's see how exactly they approach this matter.
400 or 449 or 500 it's still a loss no matter what.
If making a console costs up to 450, without R&D, shipping, retailer cuts, marketing and such, even with 500 they ain't profiting at all.
Media Molecule is constantly praised for their past work and the creation platform they have given with Dreams, but the experience they delivered with Art's Dream is by far their shining moment as a studio. It just feels like a culmination of fun, creativity, and genius that leads to a very special and touching final piece of the game that leaves just think back at the whole thing and going "....Wow."
That also tells you how much confidence they have in Jim Ryan.
499 would be like PS4, at loss but with a game, it's profitable
(BOM for PS4 was $381 and they were profitable early 2014 and at launch thanks to games sold)
399 seems impossible now
449 would be possible if they are ready to take a loss (probably ~$50/60 per unit) offset by games sold and PS4 being highly profitable (console itself + games + services)
But I'm sure Sony wonder if it worth it to have a $50 difference with MS (if they did a $499 console launch of course)
I still expect for FY2020 something like $17-18B Revenue and $1.6-$1.8B Profit thanks to TLOU Part II and Ghost of Tsushima + great third parties lineup
And this forecast of the next fiscal year might help Sony to take a loss thanks to PS4 profits
Fun to see all these articles on "Sony have difficulties", espcialy about components, when you know that Microsoft uses the same components and therefore inevitably faces the same problems
I don't think you should include marketing and R&D, because Sony don't pay this price on each console.
With shipping, retailer cuts and other spending on each unit, PlayStation 5 would be profitable on each unit at $499 since launch. At $449, it would probably take arround one year to become profitable on a unit basis.
Glad to see they're keeping the Gravity Rush dream alive over at Japan Studio.
No, 450$ bom is not the final price. You have to add retail, shippment and other costs. They will lose money even at 499.
i wonder if that is even a serious advantage at all as opposed ot pricing at 399 day one.
Those Death Stranding technical achievements with Decima & PlayStation audio team.
I figured someone could copy this one day in Dreams...
I figured someone could copy this one day in Dreams...
PS5 will cost $499 / £475 and you will all be lined up day 1 for that day 1, new PS console experience.
You seem to point that as a proof that Sony made mistake by staying silent.
(Btw, just a friendly remember that back on the same day in 2013, we known less about the PS4 than we know about the PS5 today).
Well, it's also said that this "has caused some consternation internally"
So if he is the only one to point that, maybe he is the one who is wrong ?
He is CFO, so is talking about the investers stand point. He is not wrong, it just a diffente part of the companys future.
But he is not "right" either.
So mentioning that just don't have any sense in fact.
I mean.. Of course investers can't wait to estimate precisely the profit they will potentially made with PS5... And then what ?
We are still waiting the Switch PRO which was supposed to be out in 2019 according to him.
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