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Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu / Eevee Review Thread

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Galava
Oct 27, 2017
1,692
I mostly ask cause I found the handholding in previous ones to get kinda obnoxious. I’m interested in these, even if every video Nintendo put out made me go “why?” The review snippet should I’ve read sound great.
Me too. I value a lot the "you can do this by doing this, now i'll leave you alone, bye". And just start exploring and playing the game, instead of spending 3 hours with uneccessary conversations.
 
Dec 12, 2017
402
Looking forward to playing this with my daughter in co-op.

I love that they took out random battles. It’ll make it easier for me to catch them all.
 
Oct 25, 2017
423
some people itt are really worked up over these supposed "hardcore gatekeepers"

god forbid they be disappointed in a Pokemon game removing the vast majority of the Pokemon and lots of mechanics
Thank you.

And the fact that they're charging more for this when it has less features than the 3DS games, or hell, even the GBA remakes, is awful. They could have easily made these games work as a casual experience without stripping out so many features.
 
Jan 17, 2018
961
B-but Era said these games wouldn't be good!

I like that they still give each version a separate Metacritic page, so you can say stuff like, "Technically, Pokemon Diamond is the better of the two." Lol.
This place is a small echo chamber of people. I don't put much regard into what they think will one a hit or not. The game will sells millions and millions and sell hardware and be a huge hit. Remember the Switch was gonna be a failure if we read those old posts.
 
Sep 8, 2018
173
Belgium
God forbid thinking that this:


is a little compliated right? Maybe admit that the games became complicated for some people that don't follow the games as closely as you. gatekeeping at it's worst.
Psssst that's just the formulas that tells the game how it should work and psssst let's go has the same math logic implemented just not the same variables.
 

Mr. Fantastic

Alt-account
Member
Apr 27, 2018
3,189
the amount of salt this game is generating is unprecedented

just ignore it until the main game comes out, would it kill you to have some patience?
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,666
some people itt are really worked up over these supposed "hardcore gatekeepers"

god forbid they be disappointed in a Pokemon game removing the vast majority of the Pokemon and lots of mechanics
We’re just tired of them shitting up every single Pokémon thread. We get it. You’re not pleased. We have known what these games are for several months now. At some point you’re no longer adding anything worthwhile to the discussion.

the amount of salt this game is generating is unprecedented

just ignore it until the main game comes out, would it kill you to have some patience?
Some people really have a lot of trouble with the idea that perhaps they aren’t part of the target demographic
 
Oct 27, 2017
985
North Carolina
These games are being way more transparent about how stats work than any other previous game in the series, EVs were hidden and nobody could guess how to boost them, EV points, EV reducing berries, Vitamins, all criptic as hell, candies at least tell you how to explicitely boost a stat. You can't tell me that they weren't simplified.

And no, that doesn't mean "Less content", less Pokémon and items are indeed less content, but that doesn't male the games any better or worse.
EVs have been completely visible for over 5 years now, they're even on the stat screen in gen 7. IVs have been completely visible for 2 years, and the descriptors for the number ranges have been around since gen 5. The games' deeper training mechanics have gotten more and more transparent as time goes on. Let's Go has its own unique IV shenanigans going on with chain capturing that aren't explicitly explained or visualized to the player. Candy bonuses aren't any more explicitly defined than EVs are in gen 7. The only simplification that has occurred is the wholesale removal of breeding, abilities, and hold items, because they'd rather just toss them than provide the player with clearer information.

And I'd certainly argue that a Pokemon game with fewer available Pokemon is worse off than a game with most/all of the roster attainable
 
Oct 27, 2017
609
I see that the impressions of the Pokéball Plus are mixed, mostly because of the lack of inputs and the main button being the clickable stick. I'm a little disapointed in that regard.

Hopefully it's not so bad and my son likes it regardless because I'm buying it for him. Can you believe I got the game for 50 CAD but the damn ball is 65 CAD... (meaning I save only 5 bucks from the bundle)
 
Nov 3, 2017
1,042
That might be a fair critique, but that makes stuff like Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon's Metacritic scores look very weird in comparion to Explorers of the Sky, considering the many of the same criticisms could be lobbied at Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon, with the added cutscenes with the Ultra Recon Squad just slowing down the existing story that's otherwise largely the same, and some of the best scenes, like the ones involving you following Lusamine and Guzma into Ultra Space and then fighting her, being cut. But yet Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon reviewed just fine and have like a what 84 on Metacritic, so something's definitely off in how mainline vs spinoffs are handled, or something. That's a very huge discrepancy that can't help but stand out to me.
Believe me, I had the same issues with USUM as I did with Crystal, in that it was too Deja Vu and boring to be worth redoing. At least Emerald/Platinum’s changes make it fun on a replay, but Crystal and USUM didn’t really address anything in the main story (and in Crystal’s case, nothing at all in the US version save for making Kurt easier to deal with). I don’t fully think reviews tend to give spinoffs a fair shake either for what they are (different than the main games) but considering how some like Dash and Pokepark are so, so bad, I can see why reviewers don’t have much hope for them
 

Idolvo

The Fallen
Jan 25, 2018
3,838
Yikes at some of the posts. Its okay not to like something people, but remember that others might not share your disdain.
 
Oct 25, 2017
12,834
You seem really angry about a Pokemon game.

Here's the deal: you're mad about "nostalgia reviews" or whatever. I, and apparently others in this thread just want more Pokemon. Two different opinions and yet the world doesn't end. It's almost like we can both move on with our lives and still be okay.
I mean, I'm okay too. I'm just disappointed with how Pokémon reviews focus too much on nostalgia like the franchise ended in the 90's and is coming back now, and how much the main series is losing in quality because of this sentiment.

I legit don't have any hope of gen 8 being any better and this used to be one of my favorite series in gaming. Yet seems like people don't allow others to share their disappointment in the direction this franchise is taking.
 
Dec 1, 2017
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some people itt are really worked up over these supposed "hardcore gatekeepers"

god forbid they be disappointed in a Pokemon game removing the vast majority of the Pokemon and lots of mechanics
Yeah, people called these hardcore players as gatekeeping, but I haven't seen any one of them wish for past pokemon and mechanics to be removed in a main line game. It was genwunners wishing for a reboot to happen to get rid of them. These argurments were real, and people were serious about them.



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Oct 25, 2017
2,696
I'm mad with the direction my favourite series is taking, yes.
This reviews only tell GF that this is a good road, and that people don't care about losing 80% of team variety.
Dude, this is just for this game. You will have your traditional pokemon next year.

Is it so hard to understand that?
 
Oct 30, 2017
225
Seeing a lot of reviewers dismissing the huge lack of content and saying "it has nostalgia, so it's fine".

Makes these reviews completely worthless. Seems like most reviewers don't care about gameplay for the Pokémon series as usual -- that explains the low scores for the Mystery Dungeon series, while stuff like this gets a pass.

Nostalgia isn't mark of quality. This just looks alienating for anyone who actually follows the series.
Any review that doesn't agree with me is worthless. If 100% of reviews don't agree with me then the entire universe of reviewers is worthless. Nice logic you got there.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,530
Unova
I watched a couple of reviews but is there a review that’s shows how much movement is required in handheld mode to catch Pokémon?

I’m disabled and at times when the pain kicks up my movement is extremely limited.
 
Oct 25, 2017
12,834
Any review that doesn't agree with me is worthless. If 100% of reviews don't agree with me then the entire universe of reviewers is worthless. Nice logic you got there.
I'm criticizing the text (for some of these), not the scores. "It has nostalgia, so the flaws don't matter" isn't something I can agree with.
 
Jan 14, 2018
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I’m SHOOK!!! Being a believer in this game and being hyped for it feels rewarding. Happy the scores are good and reviews are promising
 
Oct 29, 2017
6,083
Of course it's not necessary. But pokémon is kinda bloated right now - it can and will continue to be - but what harm there is to release a non bloated good game? Compare it to each first pokémon games on nintendo consoles (dash, rumble) to see the difference.
They're giving the first dose in RPG form, that's all and that's great.
Sure its bloated, but those formulas are not why. Its mostly because GF starts a new gimmick and drops it next game without removing it (see: mega evolutions were a big focus, but then sidelined for Z moves). Even then, I wouldnt call it complicated.
The point pic related was to illustrate just how wrong it is to think that people can't find the games that came before as complicated, while also freely critizing the LGPE games as "oversimplified" "The casual audience are not babies!"
But its not complicated. These background calculations exist in every game. How does Lets Go know wether you captured a Pokemon or not? 1+1=2? No its a complicated formula, just like the ones you posted, but its not necesarry to know, just like the ones you posted.
 
Oct 25, 2017
15,041
I'm mad with the direction my favourite series is taking, yes.
This reviews only tell GF that this is a good road, and that people don't care about losing 80% of team variety.
But... they announced gen 8 for next year already. It's not like they can redesign next year's game completely to make it seem more like this game, that's not how game development works.

In fact that's like, the last thing they would do. The whole point of having this game, and potentially branch of the series, is to be more accessible than the core games. Then hopefully transition people towards the core games.

They announced gen 8 with this game for a specific reason, and that's to assure longtime fans that they aren't abandoning them. I honestly don't understand how people have missed that.
 
Nov 3, 2017
1,042
There's a game for their biggest fans coming next year.

I am really confused.
We have no idea how that game will turn out and if it’ll leave out features like the National Dex again, or simply not be content filled to be worth $60. That’s why we aren’t blindly excited for the next one since we’d like to see something hopeful from it rather than “it plays like the older games” (which isn’t LGPE’s problem for me, it’s the difficulty/content)
 
Oct 30, 2017
1,546
Alabama
These posts represent what will be the majority of Let's Go buyers. You know...people that haven't played Pokemon games in awhile, or when they do, just dabble in it from time to time. I'm think about buying this as well, after my last Pokemon game was Platinum...couldn't make it past the halfway mark because the random battles were so boring and repetitive. This game significantly reduces that time sink.

The 2nd most Let's Go buyers will be the usual hardcore (not all, but most of the hardcore will eventually buy it), and then people who may have never played Pokemon, or have only played Pokemon Go.
I've played and finished X and Moon, I'm just happy to play one without random encounters and one that continues the elimination of HMs started by Sun/Moon
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,910
some people itt are really worked up over these supposed "hardcore gatekeepers"

god forbid they be disappointed in a Pokemon game removing the vast majority of the Pokemon and lots of mechanics
Yeah it's been pretty embarrassing in every Let's Go thread. You apparently aren't allowed be disappointed.
 
Oct 25, 2017
15,041
I watched a couple of reviews but is there a review that’s shows how much movement is required in handheld mode to catch Pokémon?

I’m disabled and at times when the pain kicks up my movement is extremely limited.
A month or so ago they confirmed you could just throw with a button press in handheld mode. The gyro is not turned off though, so some movement of the console can affect the camera motion I believe.
 
Nov 5, 2017
4,666
XY got a fucking 88 by virtue of just being a 3d game.
On DS

D/P - 85
Pl - 83
HG/SS - 87
B/W - 87
B2/W2 - 80

Platinum and B2/W2 are two of the most liked games, and they are the worst rated.

On 3DS

X/Y - 88
OR/AS - 83
S/M - 87
US/UM - 84

X/Y is universally considered the weakest of the 3DS games (and probably the weakest, period) and it's the best rated.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,658
or simply not be content filled to be worth $60.
Wild that people are excited for a game that looks like a mobile remake of RBY with less content and are fine with paying more money than they ever have for a Pokemon game simply because they can get their cheap nostalgia tickle.

Couldn't be me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,208
They announced gen 8 with this game for a specific reason, and that's to assure longtime fans that they aren't abandoning them. I honestly don't understand how people have missed that.
A lot of people are worried that if this does well they'll either abandon the traditional games after Gen 8 or replace the traditional remakes with Let's Go.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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That's fair. You can also see it as a blessing in disguise. To be honest, tiers have been way too bloated for too long. When you have Ubers, OU, UU, RU, NU and PU and all the different banlists inbetween, it gets ridiculous. The fact that Scizor is in UU is kind of insane.
I agree the fan tier lists are really stupid and I competitively play

It should be

Ubers
Everything else

And all legendaries and mythical should be in Ubers and anything that can breed should be in Everything else
 

GulAtiCa

Community Resettler
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,575
Yeah it's been pretty embarrassing in every Let's Go thread. You apparently aren't allowed be disappointed.
You are absolutely allowed to be disappointed. But, a after 6+ months of people constantly complaining about how disappointed they are, it just honestly gets old. After 6 months, we get it! Doesn't help that for several people, it's the same people over and over.

Take a look at the following thread: "Pokemon Let's Go haters attack Youtubers for liking the games"
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pokemon-lets-go-haters-attack-youtubers-for-liking-the-games.77015/

Look at how many got banned. So many people turned a thread ABOUT people being shitty and decided to be shitty themselves and start blaming Masuda and others...

I'm not saying you did this, or some others here. But after so many times, there is only so much we can take. Esp with the main Gen 8 game literally coming in 1 year exactly,..
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,013
Yeah it's been pretty embarrassing in every Let's Go thread. You apparently aren't allowed be disappointed.
At which point of disappointment one becomes emotionally invested to the point of hoping the game fails and getting salty when it doesn't? How is gatekeeping and literally questioning the validity of reviews just being disappointed?

It's obviously okay to be disappointed. But people have been complaining about the same stuff like a broken record since the announcement. It's run right past disappointment into hatred.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,696
We have no idea how that game will turn out and if it’ll leave out features like the National Dex again, or simply not be content filled to be worth $60. That’s why we aren’t blindly excited for the next one since we’d like to see something hopeful from it rather than “it plays like the older games” (which isn’t LGPE’s problem for me, it’s the difficulty/content)
If you have no idea, why get mad now? Wait until you have a reason to be angry, to actually be angry.

GF announced the gen 8 the same date they announced the Lets Go series. Why? To ensure the traditional fans wont be left out.

And they alreadybsaid that the 2019 game will follow the traditional main line game.