Pokémon Sword and Shield announced. Coming Late 2019

Which starter will you choose?


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Oct 28, 2017
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Decidueye > Serperior > Sceptile > Torterra > Venusaur > Chesnaught > Meganium (utter trash)

Charizard > Blaziken > Infernape > Incineroar > Typhlosion > Delphox > Emboar

Greninja > Blastoise > Empoleon > Ferligatr > Swampert > Samurott > Primarina

Meganium is just the worst. Design-wise I'd rank it down there with the happy face ice cream cones and the derpy trash bag.
 
Aug 7, 2018
99
Wow, so you think a palette swap of gen 1 pokemon still "look like pokemon".

Can I get a definition of what a pokemon looks like?
This really bothers me, instead of pointing at someone who made a comment and expecting them to rebut your idea, without knowing what your definition of "what a Pokemon looks like" is kinda outlandish.

It's obviously a loaded question because they are now responding to an idea they know nothing about.

Any ways, "palette swap" is a bit exaggerated can we agree?

Alolan Ninetails



Gen 1 Ninetails



Not only is the actual design different with enough familiarity to recognize it's a Ninetails, but they took the time to make sure that it wasn't a simple color swap, they redesigned it completely.

If you want to get into other details, the Typing is different, the Moves sets prior to evolution and after evolution is different, the Base stats for each is different and the weaknesses are obviously different.

Regional Forms are not lazy IMO when Game Freak has taken the time to redesign the look, restructure the typing, move sets and weaknesses making the Pokemon literally play different than it's original form.

So yeah a "palette swap" is disingenuous at best.
 
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May 15, 2018
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This really bothers me, instead of pointing at someone who made a comment and expecting them to rebut your idea, without knowing what your definition of "what a Pokemon looks like" is kinda outlandish.

It's obviously a loaded question because they are now responding to an idea they know nothing about.

Any ways, "palette swap" is a bit exaggerated can we agree?

Alolan Ninetails



Gen 1 Ninetails



Not only is the actual design different with enough familiarity to recognize it's a Ninetails, but they took the time to make sure that it wasn't a simple color swap, they redesigned it completely.

If you want to get into other details, the Typing is different, the Moves sets prior to evolution and after evolution is different, the Base stats for each is different and the weaknesses are obviously different.

Regional Forms are not lazy IMO when Game Freak has taken the time to redesign the look, restructure the typing, move sets and weaknesses making the Pokemon literally play different than it's original form.

So yeah a "palette swap" is disingenuous at best.
I agree, it's definitely not a Dusk Lycanrox situation. They shouldn't have been Kanto exclusive though.
 
Oct 30, 2017
1,538
Might as well join in with the starter rankings
Decidueye > Sceptile > Meganium > Serperior > Torterra > Venusaur >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chesnaught
Charizard > Typhlosion > Delphox > Blaziken > Infernape > Incineroar > Emboar
Blastoise > Feraligatr > Greninja > Empoleon > Swampert > Samurott > Primarina
 
Jan 3, 2018
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Infernape >>>>>>>>> Delphox > Incineroar > Charizard > Emboar > Typhlosion > Blaziken
Blastoise > Feraligatr > Greninja > Empoleon > Swampert > Primarina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samurott
Torterra > Venusaur > Chesnaut > Meganium > Serperior >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sceptile > Decidueye


Samurott should *not* be quadrupedal and hoodie strings are a stupid bowstring
I really like Sceptile's design except that it stands like it has something horribly wrong with its back in the games from gen 6 on so I dock major points for that, the other evolutions and its mega don't have that issue
I don't like Blaziken's pantfeatherpants

anyways I usually pick up one of the early Pokemon to use as a starter instead, only gens I haven't done that in are 4 and 2

Nidoran(male), Totodile, Shroomish, Chimchar, Lillipup, Fletchling, A-Grimer

Grookey gang btw
 
Aug 7, 2018
99
I agree, it's definitely not a Dusk Lycanrox situation. They shouldn't have been Kanto exclusive though.
I also agree with this, Kanto being the only ones so far to get a Regional form is boring. I understand why they did it, they wanted people to be excited for classic Pokemon getting a new use and new look. Yet, I think it was short sighted to ONLY do Kanto Pokemon.

They could very well do some more regional variants of other Gens for Galar, but I doubt we will see any even for Kanto.

Which is a shame.
 
Jan 5, 2019
361
Sceptile > torterra > venusaur >decidueye > chesnaught > megamiun > serperior

Infernape > incineroar >charizard >delphox> blaziken> typhlosion > emboar

Primarina > greninja >empoleon > samurott > feraligatr > swampert >blastoise

Primarina and infernape are part of my top 10 favorite pokemon list of all time
 
Mar 26, 2018
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Did we ever find out who did the Meltan/Melmetal art, by the way?
I don't think it will be ever confirmed unless a TCG card with stock art is released.

The choppy/faded line art may indicate either Sugimori or Megumi Mizutani.
They weren't mentioned by name, but Masuda said he gave directions for Meltan to a designer who played Red an Green when he was a kid. So it's probably not Sugimori or Mizutani.
 
Oct 25, 2017
682
This is our punishment. We deserve this. There’s no way out. What are your favorite appliances Rotom could possess?

1. Crockpot
2. Belt sander
3. Dialysis machine
4. Curling iron
Hey maybe a dialysis machine would make it Electric / Poison. That with levitate would be pretty baller, it;d terrify Tapu Koko harder than Rotom-Heat, and do pretty well against Tapu Fini and Tapu Bulu too.
 

Leo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,073
One thing that makes me super excited for these starters is that except for Grookey, it's really hard to picture what their final form will be, it's gonna be a surprise. I'm hopeful for Scorbunny, since they never got a rabbit pokemon right, and I hope Grookey evolves into a full on Donkey Kong style musical gorilla instead of a skinny monkey like Infernape.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I know I'm definitely in the minority here but I think I prefer the graphical style of Let's Go to the one we've seen in Sword and Shield so far. It just looks... cleaner? And I feel like the more cartoonish visuals suit the series more than pseudo realism.
 
Feb 26, 2019
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Tijuana
I know I'm definitely in the minority here but I think I prefer the graphical style of Let's Go to the one we've seen in Sword and Shield so far. It just looks... cleaner? And I feel like the more cartoonish visuals suit the series more than pseudo realism.
Yes, that's what I've been saying, like 100 pages ago lol

The only thing that Let's Go needed was fix the proportions between characters and buildings/environment (and obviously get rid of the chibiness) but the cartoonish graphics are so much better. Simply because of the Pokémon.

Let's think that in 20 years, when they finally start making videogames as if they were in 2019 lol the environment finally has this super realistic and detailed look, but the Pokémon models are gonna look off because they'll still be cartoonish (unless they start to look like the Detective Pikachu movie, God forbids).
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,720
Any ideas on when we can expect the new trailer based on reveal trends? I'd think its probably late April/Early May, but I'm not sure.
Mid-May's not a bad bet.

There's a chance of some information mid-April, particularly if the Mewtwo CGI movie has any tie-ins to Sword and Shield, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think we may see something early/mid-April. If SuMo's marketing timeline is anything to go by. On May 10th they revealed the game, showing the starters and the first footage of the game. Then on June 2nd, less than a month later, they released a bunch of videos showing characters, features and a better look at the legendary mascots. From then on, we had an almost weekly release of new footage, mostly showcasing new Pokémon.

They might have more to show from this game than they had with Sun & Moon, so I don't think we will have to wait too long before we see it again.
 
Jan 9, 2018
637
Am I too late for the Starter rankings? Hope not... and I'm including alternation forms and the less "official" Starters because I like them.

Grass:
Mega Sceptile > Mega Venasaur > Decidueye > Sceptile > Venasaur >>> Torterra > Chesnaught > Serperior >>> Meganium

Fire:
Mega Charizard Y > Infernape > Mega Blaziken > Mega Charizard X > Typhlosion > Incineroar > Charizard > Blaziken >>> Delphox > Emboar

Water:
Ash-Greninja > Mega Swampert > Greninja > Mega Blastoise > Swampert > Feraligator > Blastoise > Empoleon > Samurott > Primarina

Other:
Naganadel > Glaceon > Umbreon > Leafeon > Espeon > Sylveon > Raichu > Alolan Raichu > Jolteon > Vaporeon > Flareon

I find that I really love a lot of the final forms for Grass and Fire Starters, and then dislike some pretty heavily. Not enough to hate them, though. Whereas with the Water Starters, I sorta like all of them, although only Ash-Greninja and Mega Swampert are really the ones I'd want in my party. Something else that stands out to me is how little nostalgia matters to me now, ignoring Mega Evolution. Never really though I'd rank Charizard, Typhlosion, Sceptile, or Swampert below anything before and here they are, not as high as I expected. Wonder how this will all turn out once we get the final forms of the Galar Starters...
 
Dec 20, 2017
430
Chesnaught > Decidueye > Venusaur > Torterra> Serperior > Sceptile > Meganium

Blaziken > Charizard > Emboar > Delphox > Incineroar > Infernape > Typhlosion

Empoleon > Greninja > Blastoise > Ferligatr > Swampert > Samurott > Primarina

Rate my shit taste and guess what starter I will go for this time.
 
Jan 22, 2019
71
Chesnaught > Decidueye > Venusaur > Torterra> Serperior > Sceptile > Meganium

Blaziken > Charizard > Emboar > Delphox > Incineroar > Infernape > Typhlosion

Empoleon > Greninja > Blastoise > Ferligatr > Swampert > Samurott > Primarina

Rate my shit taste and guess what starter I will go for this time.
> rating Chesnaught and Empolion that high
> placing Typhlosion in the bottom

Oh boi, you are picking Grookey, aren't you? Unless Sobble 3rd evo becomes some sort of lifeless bland monstrosity, then I am sure you will be choosing him instead.
 
Dec 20, 2017
430
> rating Chesnaught and Empolion that high
> placing Typhlosion in the bottom

Oh boi, you are picking Grookey, aren't you? Unless Sobble 3rd evo becomes some sort of lifeless bland monstrosity, then I am sure you will be choosing him instead.
You got it, now kill me already. Shedinja is the best digimon btw.
 

riq

Member
Feb 21, 2019
16
Am I too late for Rotom forms wishlist?
Because I want Robot Toy Rotom, the one Charon had. And I want it to be 1:1 Pulseman, Electric/Fighting.
Also make a Drill Dozer mon while at it.
 
Mar 26, 2018
1,434
I wish there was a way to turn off the in battle benefits of using Pokémon Amie/Refresh, I really like when my Pokemon looks back at me and the flavor text you get. But, it really doesn't feel right when they manage to shrug status ailments or avoid attacks all the time, I want to use Amie/Refresh, but I still want a fair challenge too. I'd be OK with getting rid of status ailments after battle is to stay, but I think they should make you use your inventory instead of giving you a free Full Heal.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Venusaur > Meganium > Serperior > Torterra > Sceptile > Decidueye > Chesnaught

Charizard > Delphox > Typhlosion > Infernape > Incineroar > Blaziken > Emboar

Greninja > Blastoise > Ferligatr > Empoleon > Samurott > Primarina > Swampert

I'll join in
 
Feb 1, 2018
56
Ranking things is fun:

Torterra > Chesnaught > Venusaur > Decidueye > Sceptile > Serperior > Meganium

Infernape > Incineroar > Emboar > Charizard > Typhlosion > Delphox > Blaziken

Empoleon > Samurott > Greninja > Blastoise > Swampert > Feraligatr > Primarina

My tastes in starters seems different than the majority. In truth, aside from Delphox, Blaziken, Meganiuam and Primarina, I really like all of them.
 
Nov 15, 2017
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Sceptile > Torterra > Serperior > Decidueye > Venusaur == Chesnaught >> Meganium

Typhlosion > Blaziken > Infernape > Charizard > Emboar - The other two are abominations shall not be named. (- _ -' ) p

Greninja > Ferligatr > Blastoise > Swampert > Empoleon > Samurott > Primarina
 
Feb 20, 2019
217
Defending underappreciated Pokémons #2: Muk



So today we have a big boy. I feel that Muk has always been more hated than Grimer overall. Maybe because it's just a bigger version of Grimer? I don't know. But let's defend this gen 1 poison type.
So, a lot of people seem to dislike this slimy dude because it's "just" a blob.
But I think that this blob has too much personality to just be a blob.
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Muk looks like a zombie. Its pose looks like the classical picture of a zombie crawling out of a graveyard. I mean, just take a look a this and tell me that it doesn't have any similarities with the pose, the mouth and the "gross" aspect of it. Just tell me:

So, yeah. I definitely think that this thing being a zombie makes it cool, man.

Another cool thing about Muk is that he looks like he is constantly trying to stand up and seems like if he didn't do enough effort to keep himself looking like a Pokémon, he would just colllapse and end up being some gelatinous purple mass. Muk is trying his best guys, don't be mean please.

...But how would he keep using his strength to do this? Does he have any strength? Does this thing have muscles? Can a Grimer fuse himself with another grimer to become a Muk?
So many questions that are not anwsered.

Come on, how could you hate Muk, the slimy zombie in constant effort with the menacing pose and the mysteries around his biology?

Also, I have to say that the little strand of slimy goo in his mouth adds a lot to his design. Props to the designer here!